bomber34 wrote: o1q2a

Maybe because some people hate me for spamming stars on it?

I don't think anyone cares how much of your KD you invest in your own map The reason this map doesn't get as much attention might be the length combined with the rather repetetive song. There is nothing "flashy" about it. Anyway I checked everything you've done since my mod and the only thing I still don't like is the overly simple SB (and that it is missing in the 'Hard' map).

Last time I was not very clear with how to modify it but maybe give it another try with something like this:

Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"xfrtae.png",320,240
 F,0,46983,47221,0,1
 F,0,47937,48414,1,0
Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"xfrtae.png",320,240
 F,0,46983,47398,1,0
 S,0,46983,47398,1,2

It really adds to the intention of the song imo. Don't kd this post, just think about it and maybe play around with some SB ideas. The maps themselves are very polished by now and don't need much more attention. If you can't find a MAT to check this (really short) set on this weekend, PM me and I will see what I can do about a bubble here (I have some ideas how to spice up the presentation of this set to add something unique).

p3n wrote: pi68

bomber34 wrote: o1q2a

Maybe because some people hate me for spamming stars on it?

I don't think anyone cares how much of your KD you invest in your own map

People proved me otherwise and this is why i wrote it ^^
I think i should used this strike thing or this not so straight text to show that I am not "That" serious about the point. xD It still happened though.

About the rest. Fine I look what i can do to make it more fancy. Your code actually makes it better for the non-standard modes lol. That is definitly a plus. However the end is now ... weird (at least to me) Will look to improve the fading out ^.^
I will also see how people react to it in Hard and if TVO even wants to use the SB
About other XATs:
I may or may not get a check by jericho soon. ( at least I hope so) But that might take longer than next weekend ... even though this weekend would be sweet

Congrats

General

1. Add in Game Boy to the tags. Both Pokemon Red and Blue were both released for the Game Boy.

Easy

1. I suggest increasing the Approach Rate and Overall Difficulty by one. Doing that will make Easy better to play over in my opinion.
2. 00:04:995-I can see potential of having a new combo here. Give it a shot!

Normal

Looks good from what I can see. The spacing on Normal is fairly big but it's not such a big deal

Ctb Cup

It's okay in my book!

MuzuZoda

Muzu plays alright. So, nothing wrong from what I'm seeing.

TVO's Hard

• 00:15:014 (2)-Forgot to add a whistle there?

1. 00:37:440 (1, 2)-It would be best to add whistles on both end points. that way, they'll sound good in my opinion.

OniZoda

1. 00:20:263 (59)-Perhaps it'll be good to add in a kat there. Doing that will form up to be a kdk pattern with the previous notes and it could play well that way in my opinion.

And that's about it. Give me a call after you're done looking through my mod.

Roddie wrote: 1o2a1h

General

1. Add in Game Boy to the tags. Both Pokemon Red and Blue were both released for the Game Boy. added boy and gameboy
   the game word itself is already in with Game Freak

Easy

1. I suggest increasing the Approach Rate and Overall Difficulty by one. Doing that will make Easy better to play over in my opinion. not a huge difference for me :3 to bad that sweet star difficulty rating of 0,69 is gone after that xD
2. 00:04:995-I can see potential of having a new combo here. Give it a shot! cool

Normal

Looks good from what I can see. The spacing on Normal is fairly big but it's not such a big deal yeah maybe the spacing is relative high but I think it is still okay too :3

Ctb Cup

It's okay in my book! :D

TVO's Hard

1. 00:15:014 (2)-Forgot to add a whistle there? TVO was fine with that
   
2. 00:37:440 (1, 2)-It would be best to add whistles on both end points. that way, they'll sound good in my opinion. He does not think so

OniZoda

1. 00:20:263 (59)-Perhaps it'll be good to add in a kat there. Doing that will form up to be a kdk pattern with the previous notes and it could play well that way in my opinion. _Gezo_ is fine with that

And that's about it. Give me a call after you're done looking through my mod.

sweet :3

Anyway answered for _Gezo_ and TVO. They gave me their answers

*Throws pokeball*

*Squirtle comes out*

Squirtle, use Bubble!

GHOST used CURSE

go!!!

Good! Get it Ranked now! :3

GOGO

Get ranked now ! :3

My Map is level 100 ;D

KuraiRank pls

bomber34 wrote: o1q2a

My Map is level 100 ;D

Mine's 255

Mine's 0.5 Celebi and a L.255 Pikachu that can use destiny bond HUEHUEHUEHUE

i saw your request on #modreqs; i'm no BAT but i'll mod this anyways, dah.

[General]

1. There's an issue in the storyboard for TVO's difficulty: In Easy and Normal the ghost remains in the background after the pulse, but in this difficulty it doesn't. Fix that please!
2. I think it'd be best if you just used one of the colored backgrounds for the whole set? It's unneccesary to have the same background just in two colors randomly placed on each map in the set; two standard diffs and a taiko have a red background and the rest have gray; I don't see why this is so? If you were at least going to use this, make sense with it and put the red backgrounded difficulties on your own maps you mapped and the gray on the guest mapper's difficulties!

[Easy]

1. 00:18:354 (3, 4) - Add the finish at three and remove the whistle; remove the finish at four and add a whistle.
2. 00:22:172 (5) - It flows better if you just make this a downward-curved slider imo.
3. 00:27:897 (1) - Maybe shorten the slider to 00:29:329 - and add a note where the slider previously ended.
4. 00:36:963 (2) - Either remove the whistle here for consistency or add one at 00:36:009
5. 00:39:348 (1) - Break this slider up; could best fit the music if it was two sliders, one starting where this one starts and ending at 00:40:780 -, then one starting where the original repeat started ending at 00:42:688 -. After that, move the spinner up so it starts at 00:43:166 - and ends where it originally ended.

[Normal]

1. 00:37:917 (1) - Either add a whistle here for consistency or remove the one on (2)'s slider end.
2. 00:38:394 (2) - Don't make the endpoint the same as one; spread out the slider more, I don't see the main appeal in playing this pattern except for it looks a bit unaesthetically pleasing and would be best not mirroring it's previous slider (1).
3. 00:39:348 (1) - Break this slider up; could best fit the music if it was two sliders, one starting where this one starts and ending at 00:40:780 -, then one starting where the original repeat started ending at 00:42:688 -. After that, move the spinner up so it starts at 00:43:166 - and ends where it originally ended.

[TVO's Hard]

- decrease the circle size by one? it feels more enjoyable to play the patterns and that way and the circles just look incredibly tiny to me at the moment ahah
- i'd suggest for you to put a spinner in here near the ending but it's up to you

1. 00:08:812 (1) - Maybe curve this slider a bit to the left? It's current transition is a bit awkward and I think it'd due to the horizontal slant of the transition (slider) and this would fix it.
2. 00:33:623 (3) - The higher pitched noise in the BGM right here makes a great place to put a New Combo seeing as if bomber's done that in the easier difficulties and it follows the music well.

[CtB Cup]

1. plays nicely; good job!

try getting some more mods on the taiko difficulties as well? call me back when you make fixes

Elly-chan wrote: 4b961

try getting some more mods on the taiko difficulties as well? call me back when you make fixes

Uh.. There are three "big" Mods for the Diffs and some smaller ones. And the Diffs okay. Trust me.

okay, must be personal opinion then. call me back when you update the ones i modded and i'll rebubble!

Elly-chan wrote: 4b961

try getting some more mods on the taiko difficulties as well? call me back when you make fixes

This is just a 220-note mapset. ;w;

Elly-chan wrote: 4b961

i saw your request on #modreqs; i'm no BAT but i'll mod this anyways, dah. never gonna use that channel again xD *not serious

[General]

1. There's an issue in the storyboard for TVO's difficulty: In Easy and Normal the ghost remains in the background after the pulse, but in this difficulty it doesn't. Fix that please! orz. Gonna change it even though I am not happy with it. I guess I won't understand why this is an "Issue" instead of personal opinion but eh.
2. I think it'd be best if you just used one of the colored backgrounds for the whole set? It's unneccesary to have the same background just in two colors randomly placed on each map in the set; two standard diffs and a taiko have a red background and the rest have gray; I don't see why this is so? If you were at least going to use this, make sense with it and put the red backgrounded difficulties on your own maps you mapped and the gray on the guest mapper's difficulties![/color] Better idea. I just use the gray one. Is that okay? Because while I like the red one a tick more I just cannot play with that in ctb (thus i used it in ctb diff) But when I think about it. The Easy and Normal will be played in ctb too ... I guess I will play them too. So short: I use the gray one

[Easy]

1. 00:18:354 (3, 4) - Add the finish at three and remove the whistle; remove the finish at four and add a whistle. I swear it was already like this some time ago.... anyway done
2. 00:22:172 (5) - It flows better if you just make this a downward-curved slider imo.While I understand your point and I kind of agree I just cannot find a satisfying or even decent solution. Everything I tried played and looked terrible. orz sry D:Okay after your suggestion picture on IRC I made it
3. 00:27:897 (1) - Maybe shorten the slider to 00:29:329 - and add a note where the slider previously ended. I like how it is at the moment. Idk how to explain it but when I short it and add a note it feels like to much ...
4. 00:36:963 (2) - Either remove the whistle here for consistency or add one at 00:36:009 underlined what i did
5. 00:39:348 (1) - Break this slider up; could best fit the music if it was two sliders, one starting where this one starts and ending at 00:40:780 -, then one starting where the original repeat started ending at 00:42:688 -. After that, move the spinner up so it starts at 00:43:166 - and ends where it originally ended. Gonna try it Okay I think it is good. Question is if my way is okay ...

[Normal]

1. 00:37:917 (1) - Either add a whistle here for consistency or remove the one on (2)'s slider end. Underlined what I did
2. 00:38:394 (2) - Don't make the endpoint the same as one; spread out the slider more, I don't see the main appeal in playing this pattern except for it looks a bit unaesthetically pleasing and would be best not mirroring it's previous slider (1). a bit hard to understand ... So I am supposed to make the sliders farer away because it does not play well or it looks bad or something ... uhhh help? I think it looks and plays nice. The fact that both sliders go down fits imo with the music, because the big sounds 00:38:394 - and 00:37:440 - make the impression of pulling it down. I am a bit confused now so maybe a picture or so? D: ... okay red reason should be enough :3
3. 00:39:348 (1) - Break this slider up; could best fit the music if it was two sliders, one starting where this one starts and ending at 00:40:780 -, then one starting where the original repeat started ending at 00:42:688 -. After that, move the spinner up so it starts at 00:43:166 - and ends where it originally ended. I know I did that in Easy but I really really want to keep this in normal. I really dig this slider because it reminds me as some sort of minimalistic of the pokemon ghost

[TVO's Hard]

- decrease the circle size by one? it feels more enjoyable to play the patterns and that way and the circles just look incredibly tiny to me at the moment ahah I just write my opinion on this one too. Alot of people are enjoying the cs6 on this diff alot. I asked so many people about this and it ends around 50 - 50. I really love the small circles and you don't see cs6 here in osu! since idk. The last one I was in Sep. 2011 "Many of Horrors" with CS7 (loved that map). That is not the best answer but there are more reasons.
With CS5 this diff feels a bit like a Normal+ which isn't nice. p3n agreed with cs6 and said it would be too easy with bigger circles then.
The Song is sooo slow and calm and the melody so simple that it just feels right for me to have cs6
I mean I know that CS thing is in todays standard like " WHY DO WE EVEN HAVE THE OPTION FOR SOMETHING SMALLER THAN 4. But there are really alot of people who like smaller cs.
And yes I am aware that I wrote alot about this.
- i'd suggest for you to put a spinner in here near the ending but it's up to you

1. 00:08:812 (1) - Maybe curve this slider a bit to the left? It's current transition is a bit awkward and I think it'd due to the horizontal slant of the transition (slider) and this would fix it.
2. 00:33:623 (3) - The higher pitched noise in the BGM right here makes a great place to put a New Combo seeing as if bomber's done that in the easier difficulties and it follows the music well.

[CtB Cup]

1. plays nicely; good job!

At least something

try getting some more mods on the taiko difficulties as well? call me back when you make fixes. Oh well Stefan answered for me ... lol I really don't think it is necessary. Both diffs are really Easy and sound alright.

Ogosh alot to look through
let's see how long i need : 1 hour orz

okay done with your fix. Have to wait on TVO.

Stefan wrote: 5nd6l

And the Diffs okay.

*are

lol

At 8 seconds I have the higher angle for visual effect. It actually should be leaning more to the right, but that angle is too much. I do not wish to change this without exact instructions on what you wanted, and even then I've played this song enough to know that part isn't awkward, and if it was the angle hardly has anything to do with it. Perhaps it's your confusion with the circle size.

At 33 seconds I don't want to change because it goes against my combo pattern. If you notice, I split the middle of the song into 2 parts. 00:04:995 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Notice I have the combo take up a measure each. Right after 00:08:812 (1,2,3,4) - I have the combo take up 2 measures. 00:12:629 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - A measure each. Next is two measures and so on. This would go against this pattern, which I only break for the start, and when I go entirely notes at the end.

I really do not want a spinner, because it does not match the pace of the song. I have a lot of single notes, and the beat doesn't significantly change, so I don't want to go from note streams into a spinner when the rhythm doesn't change. I also do not like the default spinner on my grey background, so it's more fitting for me to not have a spinner.

Understandable!! Here's your bubbie back, good luck with the rank!!

Eastern artists must be written in the proper 'surname firstname' format (e.g. Japanese/Chinese/Korean). If you're unsure of your artist's name, then check previously ranked maps, Google, Wikipedia, or ask a BAT/MAT for help.

because of ^, can you rename the artist "Masuda Junichi" (増田順一)?
I can rebubble after changes, forum PM me please

those are many stars on this thing here - also, pop = +5 SP, rite?

Melophobia wrote: 522q4p

Eastern artists must be written in the proper 'surname firstname' format (e.g. Japanese/Chinese/Korean). If you're unsure of your artist's name, then check previously ranked maps, Google, Wikipedia, or ask a BAT/MAT for help.

because of ^, can you rename the artist "Masuda Junichi" (増田順一)?
I can rebubble after changes, forum PM me please

Okay done :3

Rebubbled!~

Japanese people are weird about having first names that sound like last names and last names that sound like first names. It's confusing.

TheVileOne wrote: 4cy22

Japanese people are weird about having first names that sound like last names and last names that sound like first names. It's confusing.

I got confused now, too xD Hopefully everything is okay now and this gets ranked :3

Oh Finally Bubbled ♥ !!

or you mean re - rebubbled ^^
Das hier ist deutscher Text ohne Relevanz :3
Okay let's see how long I have to wait now ^^

wow that taiko is horrible... ._.

Xakyrie wrote: 5c1j19

wow that taiko is horrible... ._.

cool but you might as well say why and which one since it sounds like you only mean one

lol, I don't know why, but I like it. Good luck with ranking.

bomber34 wrote: o1q2a

cool but you might as well say why and which one since it sounds like you only mean one

I haven't looked at all of them but the Oni is extremely overmapped. In fact I don't even think the Oni should really exist in partnership with such a song. Kind of disappointing to see considering Gezo is an experienced taiko mapper and he should at least understand this slightly.

Personally like 3-4 circles are a bit too much, rest seems fine. And not really overmapped.

Xakyrie wrote: 5c1j19

bomber34 wrote: o1q2a

cool but you might as well say why and which one since it sounds like you only mean one

I haven't looked at all of them but the Oni is extremely overmapped. In fact I don't even think the Oni should really exist in partnership with such a song. Kind of disappointing to see considering Gezo is an experienced taiko mapper and he should at least understand this slightly.

I am as well not much satisfied with that taiko diff to be honest, but that 2-diff rule made me do that... I didn't want to make a kantan or futsuu as they would just be horribly boring for everybody... I even find the Oni extremely boring D:

well you could always remove both difficulties in their entirety since I do agree with xakyrie

Maybe it is because I am a total taiko noob but I enjoy the Oni ._.
I mean just because of some not-so-100%-well-thought rule you get a diff. that is a bit weird maybe. But horrible? lol
I mean except of 00:43:643 (130,131,132,133,134,135) - I cannot hear anything that is supposed to make the diff bad or even horrible.
Maybe there are one or two notes where d should switch with k or vice versa. Or find some notes which aren't so necessary, or add really to that overmapping stuff.
Overall I am not a fan of deleting any guest diffs.

Besides the standard converted Taiko diffs are even worse when it comes to Taiko. You just get for Taiko unfitting 1/2 dkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkd with some Ds
With nightcore mod the taikos sound even better So play with NC. It isn't that much harder

That's why I still don't like this extremely strict 2-taiko-diff rule Elly...

Special cases ? fuck off 2 taiko diffs or not at all

the Muzu almost feels like a hard Futsuu really...

Elly-chan wrote: 4b961

well you could always remove both difficulties in their entirety since I do agree with xakyrie

lulz XAT trolling.

Dude... I usually don't want to be that guy but uh, are you sure about this map?
I can't see very many people enjoying their 45 seconds listening to lavender town, it's a simple song that's more irritating/creepy than anything.

ill be honest, this is probably the most boring ctb diff i ever checked, i actually dozed off while looking at it though i have a suggestion

00:10:720 (3) - dont make it a kick slider and just add another slider like this
trust me, it makes it a little less boring, lel

Charles445 wrote: 2362o

Dude... I usually don't want to be that guy but uh, are you sure about this map?
I can't see very many people enjoying their 45 seconds listening to lavender town, it's a simple song that's more irritating/creepy than anything.

If you can map stuff like this you can do everything you want. I absolutley do not see any problems here. About the Muzu: Futsuu would work better here as Muzu. However it is very hard to map something hard for this kind of Song. But does every Map have to contain a nearly-Insane Diff?

About Seph's Post, I honestly do not expect anything from a Normal CtB Diff.

Charles445 wrote: 2362o

Dude... I usually don't want to be that guy but uh, are you sure about this map?
I can't see very many people enjoying their 45 seconds listening to lavender town, it's a simple song that's more irritating/creepy than anything.

uhh lol. serious question?
inb4 fuck off with your other map examples from 2010 and 2011
NotShinta - aha? - irritating
Jar - ztrout's Visit to The Proctologist - irritating and creepy
La Roux - Cover My Ears - irritating
Hans Zimmer - Samara's Song - creepy

Since when is there some kind of rule that says that you are not allowed to rank stuff like that?
already 8 favourites + 9 different people who starred the map
So again. I think it is enjoyed by people. It is not even the controversial version of the song.
If you don't like a map or song then don't play it. I would have already quitted osu! when i really had to play every annoying nightcore or anime map
I am sure about this map or else I would not go and modded around 45 maps to give this one attention which seemed to work to at least some kind of attention
I don't want to be rude with this but just to say that I should consider giving this map up just because it is simple and creepy is not a valid reason imo.
I mean people have the option to play it with Nightcore. It isn't creepy at all with that. Also if the town alone (BG or SB whatever) freaks you out you can play with BG Dim up to 100% and disable whatever you want.

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Seph wrote: e4q1c

ill be honest, this is probably the most boring ctb diff i ever checked, i actually dozed off while looking at it though i have a suggestion

00:10:720 (3) - dont make it a kick slider and just add another slider like this
trust me, it makes it a little less boring, lel

Stefan wrote: 5nd6l

Charles445 wrote: 2362o

About Seph's Post, I honestly do not expect anything from a Normal CtB Diff.

It is actually even an Easy CtB diff. which imo is more enjoyable than the other converted ctb diffs. Maybe the Hard is nice but overall i like it very much
I can see about that slider suggestion

its up to you to follow that, its the only thing i really saw and putting that slider would give it a bit more flow so yeah w/e lol

BATs shouldn't be criticizing song choice. You don't want to be that guy, well it's not appropriate for you to be that guy. Also I don't really know where you got the assumption that few people like the song enough to want to play it in osu! I wouldn't have made a difficulty if I didn't like the song.

Please stop the trolling, XATs. You know better.

Charles445 wrote: 2362o

Dude... I usually don't want to be that guy but uh, are you sure about this map?
I can't see very many people enjoying their 45 seconds listening to lavender town, it's a simple song that's more irritating/creepy than anything.

One word: placebo.

Some days ago I saw many people in #osu wondering why this wasn't ranked yet, and well, I'm of thevery few people that enjoy playing this song. why don't give it a try :v?

Stefan wrote: 5nd6l

About Seph's Post, I honestly do not expect anything from a Normal CtB Diff.

OWNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED.

Charles445 wrote: 2362o

Dude... I usually don't want to be that guy but uh, are you sure about this map?
I can't see very many people enjoying their 45 seconds listening to lavender town, it's a simple song that's more irritating/creepy than anything.

Really?

bomber34 wrote: o1q2a

I would have already quitted osu! when i really had to play every annoying nightcore or anime map
I am sure about this map or else I would not go and modded around 45 maps to give this one attention which seemed to work to at least some kind of attention

*brofist*

Stefan wrote: 5nd6l

About Seph's Post, I honestly do not expect anything from a Normal CtB Diff.

Damn, I meant Easy CtB Diff. <.<

because its a damned easy diff and the song is slow as fuck?

im just being honest about the ctb diff, since its the only one i came to check to

D: It is totally okay to say that you don't like it. Didn't say that you should stop that or so.
I made that diff for friends who suck at CtB and yes. I know. CtB isn't that hard and the Easy and Normal are Easy too in ctb.
But I think some people might get interested who never tried ctb before
I already said what I think about it earlier, no need to repeat
Anyway. Thank you for playing it :3 I mean it seems that i probaly won't get a rank because of Everything
so an opinion has more value. Even if it is negative.

I can't say that I don't like it since I'm a pokemon fan, its just that its really a slow song, and i dont check maps i dont really like tbh lol, besides, if i dont like it i wouldnt even dare to touch the map no?

TheVileOne wrote: 4cy22

Elly-chan wrote: 4b961

well you could always remove both difficulties in their entirety since I do agree with xakyrie

lulz XAT trolling.

Uh, define trolling.. If saying my opinion is wrong simply because i'm a XAT, there's obviously something wrong here!

Ok, so this discussion is all supposed to be over the taiko difficulties, is it not? Please let's not jump to music choice. People can map as they please. There has to be a final decision soon about keeping the taiko difficulties or leaving them, because it seems I was not the only person who thought the maps played oddly (no offence gezo!! most likely just because the nature of the song)!! I am not here to pick fights, nor fuel them; I am here to ensure a decision is to be made as of this moment.

Hi. I got called to check this difficulties because of some discussions - which I have read now - and I do agree with Elly-chan:

Elly-chan wrote: 4b961

(...) because it seems I was not the only person who thought the maps played oddly (no offence gezo!! most likely just because the nature of the song)!!

I agree with this. The map it-self is mostly fine, the problem is rather the song. We have just two main sounds(which is the high- and low-pitch), so we should stick to them instead of making our own beats.
It was a good idea from you Gezo, trying to have your own beats to make the map more interesting. But since the song contains plenty of different sounds, you should make the patterns more simple, like having this as hardets patterns: ddkkd/dkdkd instead of dk kddk for example.

Also I want to mention that the rule was supposed to give lower people access to lower difficulties, not the controversy case. Which means that a Muzukashii is also enough. I might be wrong, but as far as I some BATs said that we shouldn't sick way too much to rules and be in some case flexible. This would fit in our case.

So I'm giving you two suggestions:

1.) Since Muzukasii is overall fine, it can be kept as it is, while the Oni is going to be remapped. I think remapping 45sec are not a big problem at all, right Gezo? I would mod it to be able to rebubble it.
2.) Or we delete the Oni and just keep the Muzukashii.

To be a bit clear about the beat @ Gezo, here some examples how to map Oni instead:
00:01:178 - http://puu.sh/216ST

Uff, I mapped half of the map in a row. Sorry, didn't noticed since it is that short(took me max 30sec lol). oO
Anyway, that's how you could do it. Less notes which are following the song in a simple way. Also having SV 1.40 is probably advicable, since 0.7 makes the map stuffed together and a bit boring. BPM seems even slower as it is. And don't forget about the Hidden mode. You would be not able to play the maps like that.

Same SV suggestion for Muzu.
Also try to avoid such drastical changes in beat: 00:35:531 (73,74,75,76,77) -


Uff, sorry that I'm so accurate/nazi or how to say it. Hope I could help you guys.
Tell me if you need a mod to be able to bubble this map. I will be there.

TheVileOne wrote: 4cy22

BATs shouldn't be criticizing song choice. You don't want to be that guy, well it's not appropriate for you to be that guy. Also I don't really know where you got the assumption that few people like the song enough to want to play it in osu! I wouldn't have made a difficulty if I didn't like the song.

Please stop the trolling, XATs. You know better.

Everyone is free to criticize whatever they want. Just having a title doesn't revoke the rights to speak our mind. Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything specifically either.

On topic.
I am complimenting you for mapping this, however I don't see it being that interesting because the song doesn't allow much here and overmapping this would be kinda meh. Just my 2 cents, I am not forcing anything here. <_<
That is pretty much what Charles probably said, just that you took his wording in a wrong way.

Oh, I also forgot to mention that the mapset it-self has been ed the 1. Juli, while the Taiko rule got approved the 29.Juli:
p/1697582

Should make everything easier now...?

TheVileOne wrote: 4cy22

BATs shouldn't be criticizing song choice. You don't want to be that guy, well it's not appropriate for you to be that guy. Also I don't really know where you got the assumption that few people like the song enough to want to play it in osu! I wouldn't have made a difficulty if I didn't like the song.

Please stop the trolling, XATs. You know better.

This is like the shittiest attitude ever for someone who keeps saying that wants to be a MAT.
Seriously, don't let this guy be a MAT...

Where is my popcorn? I like this show.

okay guys. Seriously please stop it or discuss it private, ingame, forum pm whatever
I have no problem if you say that you don't like the map or song and if you think it is worth ranking or not.
But don't start to argue over this stuff like respecting each others opinion here >.>
I am already annoyed with so many things and I already try as good as I can to find a solution for everything.
Just help me making the mapset better or leave when you just want to start a fight

It's actually fine to discuss this here. Also, keep one Taiko Diff since you do not need two Taiko Diffs. And it will be good. The CtB Diff itself should be kept simple and not so spectaculary. I agree that Oni isn't that good like Muzukashii which fits perfect imo. However, since you do not need two Taiko Diffs I would say that the Muzu is totally enough and nice playable. And as it got said some times the song choice should not change anything by mapping/modding/playing.

Don't give up on this, bomber. Your map is great and it deserves to be ranked.
There are people who likes your map and wants to see this ranked, like me.
That's all I can say. DON'T LET IT GO TO GRAVEYARD.
:3

[Luanny] wrote: 1a3g5e

Don't give up on this, bomber. Your map is great and it deserves to be ranked.
There are people who likes your map and wants to see this ranked, like me.
That's all I can say. DON'T LET IT GO TO GRAVEYARD.
:3

<3

Stefan wrote: 5nd6l

It's actually fine to discuss this here Maybe but why do i get the feeling that someone will at somepoint start something that will make it explode?..
Also, keep one Taiko Diff since you do not need two Taiko Diffs. And it will be good. The CtB Diff itself should be kept simple and not so spectaculary. I agree that Oni isn't that good like Muzukashii which fits perfect imo. However, since you do not need two Taiko Diffs I would say that the Muzu is totally enough and nice playable. And as it got said some times the song choice should not change anything by mapping/modding/playing.

yep. That's the way it will probaly go

You guys can have your opinions. I just don't think BATs should becoming in and making comments about song choices. If the BAT came in it's probably not a coincidence that he didn't mod it while this was bubbled. This could be an indication that the BAT is not modding/ranking said map purely because he doesn't like the song. What do you want people to think when you come in making such claims? Should BATs be selective in their songs, especially when fairness is a valued trait in osu!?

Also, elly I was not accusing you of anything more than making a suggestion that was unlikely to happen to follow a rule that shouldn't even apply in this case, and you also said it in a I don't even care if you do this kind of tone. At least that was the video <wtf- my auto correct is such a troll (vibe) I was getting from you. I'm sorry bomber I just wanted to clear those things up.

Can we just be reasonable? What does it take to rank this? It's been bubbled, so if you cannot find any rules that have been broken, then shouldn't it be ready to be ranked? If one of the taiko difficulties is not required, than surely we could keep one of them or else state what's unrankable about such a difficulty?

um, yeah I think it was already implied that deleting the Oni would suffice. Since this was ed before the 2-diff rule, it is viable. After testing the Muzu, I believe that it is most fitting as the "hardest diff". That being said, I highly suggest this notion.

Go forth then

Sternschauer!! D:

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..sieht ein wenig zerdrückt aus XD (das sollte ein pikachu sein D: XD)

Star für die map

[Luanny] wrote: 1a3g5e

DON'T LET IT GO TO GRAVEYARD.
:3

Or I will kill you personally

nah, jk, rank it quickly and let's enjoy the map :3

Ignore what people have written before. Everyone has his/her own opinion~
Just get this beatmap ranked soon bomber, please :3

I would not say to ignore everything what people are saying. Partly it's true about the Oni Diff.

Yeah, well, the oni's getting removed, so there shouldn't be a major problem anymore? (:

Oni removed.
CtB slightly changed/improved

I like this mustache on Gezo.

(Also, this must be like the most heroic ranking process on osu!, yo - not even kidding, that guy puts effort into this shit)

/dies

I laughed Jenny
If you knew Noru-Da...

ok ok, rank now?

I just love the song (and maps are good too) but the actual audio quality is awful, we can hear compression artifacts too much, and global song accuracy is just lost.

So please, if you are the one who remixed this, and if you have time, put your remix samples and effects again, over this full quality song, of original lavender town : FLAC or Original Song.
Remix this file (in the program you used to remix the song / apply effects, just open your project and replace the actual song by the flac I gave you (you can convert to wav if the software doesnt handle flac) and then export the new remix to mp3 VBR to keep most of its quality.

answered you ingame :3

Before you guys go for it:

First check this post again: p/2116168

And then consider this mod:
[Muzukashii]

As I said before, it is better to use SV 1.40. 0.70 makes it like beeing even slower as the original BGM. Could be boring for more people in this way.

Hitcircles:
00:07:142 (16) - move to 00:06:187, else it feels too much misplaced.
00:16:446 (36,37,38,39,40) - D k d k d (same goes to other parts -> mapping beat wise)
00:35:531 (73,74,75,76,77,78) - Consider this to map beat based instead of using the second sound.

If you disagree I have no problem with it. It's just an advice by me.

I am sorry for hidden-mod players... Will be edited soon.

Please. Let it be the final update before I put myself to rest in eternity of the dark moon that shines quietly over Lavender Town

oh u

And then, rank this map and rest forever.

and if not I will try to push the SP to either 666 or 911

I like this guy's humour.

any other MAT/BAT going to rebubble this map?.. ovo''

Alright

Melophobia wrote: 522q4p

Alright

f_ck yeah

rank it now

Seph wrote: e4q1c

rank it now

[General]
The spinner circle middle point is off-center.

[Easy]
00:12:629 (1) - This flows better ctrl + h'd. Also not very symmetrical.
00:33:623 (1) - Remove new combo
00:37:440 (1) - ^

[Normal]
00:14:537 (5) - Make up your mind on whether you want combos 1 measure long or 2 measures long.
00:22:172 (5) - ^
00:29:806 (5) - ^

[Taiko]
Why is the OD so low? Raise that.

[CtB]
00:46:983 - I'm surprised you didn't add the storyboard ghost here.

[TVO]
Add a spinner somewhere so that there can be variability in score.
The varying distance snap used all over during the intro makes for bad flow considering how little the music is changing (not at all)
In general the difficulty feels quite a bit harder in comparison to Normal. As much as I personally like them, the small circles and very large spacing is to blame here. Think you can tone it down a little bit to conform to the rest of the set better?

Garven wrote: 2k1v16

[General]
The spinner circle middle point is off-center. .__. okay let's see how i can fix that. Asked MLGnom ... let's hope he can help me :3 okay MLGnom fixed it for me :3

[Easy]
00:12:629 (1) - This flows better ctrl + h'd. Also not very symmetrical. one of these moments where I think... why did i not see that earlier ^^ fixed :3
00:33:623 (1) - Remove new combo okay
00:37:440 (1) - ^ I don't know. For me a new music phrase starts there. I can see why it is suggested but I really think there should be a NCremoved now

[Normal]
00:14:537 (5) - Make up your mind on whether you want combos 1 measure long or 2 measures long. Set new combo on each (5) spot you pointed out :3 made it possible to get the right color on 00:39:348 (1) - too ^^ my minimalistic ghost slider, even though i think these (5) spots look better without a NC I don't mind that either ^^
00:22:172 (5) - ^ ^
00:29:806 (5) - ^ ^

[Taiko]
Why is the OD so low? Raise that. _Gezo_ said he answered you ingame ._. raised by one

[CtB]
00:46:983 - I'm surprised you didn't add the storyboard ghost here. dunno why i never thought about adding him there xD added, reason why it was not set there was actually because at first i wanted the SB only in E and N because the spinner makes the ghost effect in standard better. But since Hard should / had to have one too I can add it there as well

thank you :3
let's wait for TVO

Just saw this... shouldn't the artist name be Junichi Masuda?

Composers are usually credited first name then last name. The artist himself also romanizes his name as Junichi Masuda; for example see his twitter and this release which even says on the cover Junichi Masuda Selection CD and not Masuda Junichi Selection CD.

I think there's a strong case that the artist should be changed. (Yeah I know the thread is already LONG )

orz
p/2106990
and before anyone blames Melo.
The bubble pop came after Melo talked with me about this.
I really don't know why we even must have this rule. It only causes confusion
anyway ... unless a BAT says now that I should change I will keep this thing in mind and so
I changed it because I couldn't find any album with a quick google search, and wikipedia gave me the japanese way and so ... uh.
So I agreed with Melo and changed it to the way it is now

So my questions:
If I have to change it:
Completly deleting the whole japanese written way?
Or somehow make it like the name on twitter .__.
Or just change the romanised way ._.

EDIT


p/2124611 recent map that seems to do the similar thing


hope people can live with that ... hopefully

I would change the circle size, but I don't want to disappoint anyone looking forward to the current circle size. I'm not sure if this is relevant though. I want to just roll the dice and see what people think.

I actually would like to keep CS6 if possible. Really dig that
know enough people who think the same

EDIT:
TVO lowered spacing on alot of places and added spinner

EDIT:

Shulin wrote: 50b6b

Just saw this... shouldn't the artist name be Junichi Masuda?

Composers are usually credited first name then last name. The artist himself also romanizes his name as Junichi Masuda; for example see his twitter and this release which even says on the cover Junichi Masuda Selection CD and not Masuda Junichi Selection CD.

I think there's a strong case that the artist should be changed. (Yeah I know the thread is already LONG )

I think your case doesn't matter much. Everytime we romanize our names we use "firstname => surname" format. Go check Wikipedia and you'll notice it's using that format too. And for japanese people, it is taken for granted so we never use "surname => firstname" in public places, which is including Twitter, and CD cover too. This is why he uses "Junichi Masuda". That's not his own argument, but common sense among japanese people. As a japanese person, I don't think it's appropriate to use "Junichi Masuda" just because he's using it in several places.

See also:

Suzully wrote: 6z6m2x

A Japanese person's name consists of family name first and first name next.(a rule of osu follows this)
However in an official place(like iTunes store), we write our first names first, and write our family names next as well as other countries.

The problem is, the ranking rules state "Eastern artists must be written in the proper 'surname firstname' format". I'm not sure if it makes sense and is even necessary, but rule is exactly rule. Obviously MAT shouldn't encourage mappers to scrap rules as we're here to enforce them upon mappers.

That's it. I would appreciate if you guys give me your thoughts. And gather further opinions if possible.
@bomber34: I'm sorry to bother you with this. me if you or Garven thinks rebubble is necessary. I'll gladly help you out.

Melophobia wrote: 522q4p

EDIT:I think your case doesn't matter much. Everytime we romanize our names we use "firstname => surname" format. Go check Wikipedia and you'll notice it's using that format too. And for japanese people, it is taken for granted so we never use "surname => firstname" in public places, which is including Twitter, and CD cover too. This is why he uses "Junichi Masuda". That's not his own argument, but common sense among japanese people. As a japanese person, I don't think it's appropriate to use "Junichi Masuda" just because he's using it in several places.

See also:

Suzully wrote: 6z6m2x

A Japanese person's name consists of family name first and first name next.(a rule of osu follows this)
However in an official place(like iTunes store), we write our first names first, and write our family names next as well as other countries.

The problem is, the ranking rules state "Eastern artists must be written in the proper 'surname firstname' format". I'm not sure if it makes sense and is even necessary, but rule is exactly rule. Obviously MAT shouldn't encourage mappers to scrap rules as we're here to enforce them upon mappers.

That's it. I would appreciate if you guys give me your thoughts. And gather further opinions if possible.
@bomber34: I'm sorry to bother you with this. me if you or Garven thinks rebubble is necessary. I'll gladly help you out.

Well I was thinking of this rule from a worldwide perspective, but I do understand that it's probably strange for you to see the name romanised like this but at least we have the option to put Japanese characters now which can follow the Japanese format.

I think that if a Japanese artist is using First Name Last Name format in official places when releasing material worldwide then it's important to use that standard since the majority of people who are familiar with the artist (outside of Japan) will be using that name. It would be strange to enforce this rule when there are official releases where the artist has shown a clear preference or is using First Name Last Name format by default; you could think of this like a stage name which isn't uncommon anywhere in the world. It should be up to the artist to decide what name they are known by and I think the rule should be flexible and accommodate this. Personally, I think this rule needs more discussion because there too many exceptions (especially for artists outside of Japan) but this thread probably isn't the place for that. ^_^

There aren't any other maps going by this method.

http://puu.sh/24zck

TheVileOne wrote: 4cy22

There aren't any other maps going by this method.

http://puu.sh/24zck

But they are before the rule?

I think I actually said everything that came to my mind here p/2128412
I have no problem with changing anything here. But please ... agree to something D: I really don't want to keep changing the artist. That is annoying >.<

>First world problems