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I haven't got my reads quite figured out yet this early in the game, so at the moment I'm hesitant to provide a list.
So i am safe


Who knows i am the mafia and just trying to be dumb so i don't be suspicious
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manishmathur wrote: 49y5n

So i am safe


Who knows i am the mafia and just trying to be dumb so i don't be suspicious
Do not delete posts. Further offense would result in force replacement.
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Current votes 5o3y70

abraker: (2) Julian_Kaiser, manishmathur
ShinRun: (1) ClevelandsMyBro
ClevelandsMyBro: (1) abraker
No elimination: (0)

Not voting: (5 players)

Deadline for day is 2021-12-24 04:00:00 UTC.

DCT wrote: 4w3f2c

manishmathur wrote: 49y5n

So i am safe


Who knows i am the mafia and just trying to be dumb so i don't be suspicious
Do not delete posts. Further offense would result in force replacement.
Sorry sir

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

Cleve - Cleveland is also pushing really hard to vote me off and his excuse of not reading correctly seems really suspicious. The only reason he unvoted me is that others were gonna vote him off.
i read the deadline wrong and got put on the spot by samx. then i made an absolute trash post about how you are scum based on only one reason + vote you. then i realised the dealine changed.

DCT wrote: 4w3f2c

ShinRun: (1) ClevelandsMyBro
i said Unvote
Topic Starter
Correcting.

Current votes 5o3y70

abraker: (2) Julian_Kaiser, manishmathur
ClevelandsMyBro: (1) abraker
No elimination: (0)

Not voting: (6 players)

Deadline for day is 2021-12-24 04:00:00 UTC.

manishmathur wrote: 49y5n

abraker on the other hand feel super aggressive and I think he is just trying to make us confuse to who to vote.
VOTE abraker
No shit I super aggressive when town is a vote a away from lynching a pr townie. You should be too. I have no idea why people doubt Shin can be town. I have no idea why Shin's claim is fake. It just doesn't make sense for it to be fake.
Also I never told anyone who to vote yet. I dunno where you got the "make us confused who to vote" part. Switching votes to pressure people is a valid scum hunting tactic.
Since my last post my suspicion are still on Cleveland and igorsprite. They both removed their vote but it may be damage control after realizing that they couldn't get ShinRun voted out.

For now I'll park my vote on cleveland for now, that puts them at E-2

VOTE: ClevelandsMyBro

Outside of those two I don't suspect anyone else enough to vote them instead. On thing to point out is Julian_Kaiser and manishmathur are both voting for abraker right now. But it seems just like bad play to me, not necessarily scum play.
Wait isn’t the day over now?
Oh wait it got moved from 21st to 24th
To be fair, I'm pretty sure manish voted abraker because julian did. I feel like Manish's words are going to be much more important than his actions when trying to figure out if he's scum or not.

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

Igor - Yeah igor is cooperating too much this game and I don't even think he trolled once.
so i need to be less cooperative and more troll? xD

btw sry about my inactivity, it's christmas time and i'm doing a lot of irl stuff

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

Igor - Yeah igor is cooperating too much this game and I don't even think he trolled once.
so i need to be less cooperative and more troll? xD
Anything you do at this point is going to be sus. Blame your prev plays.

igorsprite be like:

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

igorsprite be like:

oh, i like this game :3

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

igorsprite be like:

oh, i like this game :3
Oh no
Topic Starter

Evan-Amos, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons


Current votes 5o3y70

abraker: (2) Julian_Kaiser, manishmathur
ClevelandsMyBro: (2) abraker, samX500
No elimination: (0)

Not voting: (4 players)

Deadline for day is 2021-12-24 04:00:00 UTC.
@DCT

change my name
Topic Starter

The Indian Guy wrote: 2fy6t

@DCT

change my name
Would be done in the next post
Topic Starter
Less than 1 day left until end of voting. If no player received enough votes, day would end without any elimination.
Sooooo who we vote

I think it should be someone among Cleve, igor or Julian however I feel like Julian shouldn’t be voted off day 1 yet
idk man
I'm leaning more towards Cleve or Igor, but I'm not fully committed to the idea of voting someone off.
  1. Town does not lynch
  2. Shin is nk'd
  3. We have 8 people left
  4. We have no new info
  5. It's repeat of day 1 again
Anyone who thinks it will go any differently is only fooling themselves
Topic Starter

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Result 306o6f

abraker: (2) Julian_Kaiser, The Indian Guy
ClevelandsMyBro: (2) abraker, samX500
No elimination: (0)

Not voting: (5 players)

Day 1 ends without any eliminations.
Night 1 begins.
Tie
Topic Starter

The Indian Guy wrote: 2fy6t

Tie
No way

DCT wrote: 4w3f2c

The Indian Guy wrote: 2fy6t

Tie
No way
not tie?
Why everything is soo silence
You’re not allowed to talk at night
Ohhh
Why are you talking then
Let me sleep in peace
Topic Starter
A new day begins. ShinRun, a Town Doctor, is dead.


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Current votes 5o3y70

No elimination: (0)

Not voting: (8 players)

Deadline for day is 2022-01-01 12:00:00 UTC.
VOTE:Igorsprite
Rip shitruin
he was a honest and innocent man but he couldn't survive the evil society
Vote: ClevelandsMyBro
VOTE: ClevelandIsMyBro

I'll hold off on voting Igor for now.
last day I followed abraker on voting Cleveland, however I have thought about it and I think Igorsprite is a better candidate to vote off. Igorsprite seems quite experienced at mafia and so I don't think they would genuinely make the mistake of trying to vote ShinRun.

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

idk why abraker insists that shin is town.
Now that we know Shin was town, I'd really like to know your thought process in why you were at odds against my efforts trying to convince everyone that Shin was indeed town.
Idk man what to do
i have no doubt on anyone now
L
Topic Starter
NotRaffi has been prodded.
Topic Starter

Evan-Amos, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons

Current votes 5o3y70

igorsprite: (1) samX500
ClevelandsMyBro: (2) abraker, ghoulybits
No elimination: (0)

Not voting: (8 players)

Deadline for day is 2022-01-01 12:00:00 UTC.

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

idk why abraker insists that shin is town.
Now that we know Shin was town, I'd really like to know your thought process in why you were at odds against my efforts trying to convince everyone that Shin was indeed town.
i was thinking that if we were in a setup that we didn't have PR we would be giving you both too much credit, but then i changed my mind and decided to wait day 2 to see what would happen.
So he did turn out what he claimed
yup
I still think abraker is sus

DCT wrote: 4w3f2c

NotRaffi has been prodded.
he posted earlier before prod, yet he's still prodded?
Went back to look at the set up information and this confirms that the other PR is either a tracker or a cop.
also according to setup information, if we have a cop PR, then mafia has a roleblocker. If we have a tracker PR, then mafia has a rolecop.

The Indian Guy wrote: 2fy6t

I still think abraker is sus
What makes you think that?

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

idk why abraker insists that shin is town.
Now that we know Shin was town, I'd really like to know your thought process in why you were at odds against my efforts trying to convince everyone that Shin was indeed town.
i was thinking that if we were in a setup that we didn't have PR we would be giving you both too much credit, but then i changed my mind and decided to wait day 2 to see what would happen.
???? wut but... we were given the setup

DCT wrote: 4w3f2c

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

I have been forgetting to check this game lol

Hmmmm so based on the role example, it seems like 6 are town while 3 are mafia

I think we should start by claiming roles soooo Im a town doctor
newd3 is a 2v7 setup and you just made the game 100% easier for the mafia by claiming your role
In detail, we've got 5 vanillas, 2 random power roles, and 2 scum (one of them can have special powers)

The Indian Guy wrote: 2fy6t

i have no doubt on anyone now

The Indian Guy wrote: 2fy6t

I still think abraker is sus

you are not making sense
Topic Starter
ClevelandsMyBro has been prodded.

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

The Indian Guy wrote: 2fy6t

i have no doubt on anyone now

The Indian Guy wrote: 2fy6t

I still think abraker is sus

you are not making sense
Idk man my mind is going wild
Its like things going faster than me

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

idk why abraker insists that shin is town.
Now that we know Shin was town, I'd really like to know your thought process in why you were at odds against my efforts trying to convince everyone that Shin was indeed town.
i was thinking that if we were in a setup that we didn't have PR we would be giving you both too much credit, but then i changed my mind and decided to wait day 2 to see what would happen.
arent all the setup have atleast one PR anyways?
Vote:Manishmanthur

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

arent all the setup have atleast one PR anyways?
no

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

???? wut but... we were given the setup

DCT wrote: 4w3f2c

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

I have been forgetting to check this game lol

Hmmmm so based on the role example, it seems like 6 are town while 3 are mafia

I think we should start by claiming roles soooo Im a town doctor
newd3 is a 2v7 setup and you just made the game 100% easier for the mafia by claiming your role
In detail, we've got 5 vanillas, 2 random power roles, and 2 scum (one of them can have special powers)
oh, i didn't see that xD

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

???? wut but... we were given the setup

DCT wrote: 4w3f2c

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

I have been forgetting to check this game lol

Hmmmm so based on the role example, it seems like 6 are town while 3 are mafia

I think we should start by claiming roles soooo Im a town doctor
newd3 is a 2v7 setup and you just made the game 100% easier for the mafia by claiming your role
In detail, we've got 5 vanillas, 2 random power roles, and 2 scum (one of them can have special powers)
oh, i didn't see that xD
hmm that seem weird for you to glance over someone's response of your quote


igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

arent all the setup have atleast one PR anyways?
no
huuuuh??

The Indian Guy wrote: 2fy6t

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

The Indian Guy wrote: 2fy6t

i have no doubt on anyone now

The Indian Guy wrote: 2fy6t

I still think abraker is sus

you are not making sense
Idk man my mind is going wild
Its like things going faster than me
biiiiiiig sus

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

arent all the setup have atleast one PR anyways?
no
huuuuh??

i mean, yes :v
Mafia is now certain what the role selection are, puts them at a high advantage while we are still uncertain, being at a disadvantage.

The Indian Guy wrote: 2fy6t

I still think abraker is sus
I feel like Manish is just saying this out of spite.

Although I still haven't made any deductions to say otherwise.
Cleveland was the only member to vote Shin and unvote after his mistake, was his tactic to vote off a town member for the sole reason that he made an early roleclaim to attempt making him look scum?

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

Switching votes to pressure people is a valid scum hunting tactic.
This is also what he could have tried, but that's just a possibility.

Anyway, as I can't think of a better option rn..
Vote: ClevelandsMyBro
so now Cleveland is at E-2.

We should still wait until the last few days to discuss more.

Julian_Kaiser wrote: c5t1q

Cleveland was the only member to vote Shin and unvote after his mistake
No, Igorsprite also did the same, that's why Igorsprite and Cleveland are the two biggest suspect right now.

I would be fine with voting for cleveland but I am much more certain about Igorsprite being scum. I don't believe in their explanation that they just didn't understand the setup.
You guys serious



I will not vote anyone for now because everyone look equal. or maybe i will go with majority

NotRaffi wrote: 171b11

Vote:Manishmanthur
This is a... Confusing move. While Manish definitely has made some Interesting choices throughout this game, I think it would be better worth our time to focus on the people making sketchy plays that actually know the game rather than the person who is confused at every turn.
Yeah

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

arent all the setup have atleast one PR anyways?
no
huuuuh??

i mean, yes :v
igor is being too dumb for this game, which is sus in of itself
Cleveland is kinda being sus or maybe too serious??
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Current votes 5o3y70

ClevelandsMyBro: (3) abraker, ghoulybits, Julian_Kaiser
igorsprite: (1) samX500
The Indian Guy: (1) NotRaffi
No elimination: (0)

Deadline for day is 2022-01-01 12:00:00 UTC.
I will go with majority i guess
vote: clevelandsMyBro
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ClevelandsMyBro is at E-1.

Current votes 5o3y70

ClevelandsMyBro: (4) abraker, ghoulybits, Julian_Kaiser, The Indian Guy
igorsprite: (1) samX500
The Indian Guy: (1) NotRaffi
No elimination: (0)

Deadline for day is 2022-01-01 12:00:00 UTC.
I'd still prefer to vote off Igorsprite today but I can cast the hammer if you are okay with that.

If you tell me it's okay I am switching my vote to cleveland.

Julian_Kaiser wrote: c5t1q

Cleveland was the only member to vote Shin and unvote after his mistake, was his tactic to vote off a town member for the sole reason that he made an early roleclaim to attempt making him look scum?
my main reasoning was because of shin's skip voting.
community/forums/topics/1480949?n=93

Julian_Kaiser wrote: c5t1q

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

Switching votes to pressure people is a valid scum hunting tactic.
This is also what he could have tried, but that's just a possibility.
nope. my vote was legitimate.

samX500 wrote: 4e1z5d

I'd still prefer to vote off Igorsprite today but I can cast the hammer if you are okay with that.

If you tell me it's okay I am switching my vote to cleveland.
do it. but if i turned out to be town then give igor a thorough look tomorrow. unlike shin, you're not gonna lose anything for voting me out.

samX500 wrote: 4e1z5d

I'd still prefer to vote off Igorsprite today but I can cast the hammer if you are okay with that.

If you tell me it's okay I am switching my vote to cleveland.
do it. but if i turned out to be town then give igor a thorough look tomorrow. unlike shin, you're not gonna lose anything for voting me out.[/quote]

We still have two full days to discuss. We are about to vote you off but don't just give up. You seem to be on to Igor, tell us why you think they are more likely scum than you.

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

Julian_Kaiser wrote: c5t1q

Cleveland was the only member to vote Shin and unvote after his mistake, was his tactic to vote off a town member for the sole reason that he made an early roleclaim to attempt making him look scum?
my main reasoning was because of shin's skip voting.
community/forums/topics/1480949?n=93

Julian_Kaiser wrote: c5t1q

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

Switching votes to pressure people is a valid scum hunting tactic.
This is also what he could have tried, but that's just a possibility.
nope. my vote was legitimate.
Knowing your vote was legitimate, I now have more suspicion towards you due to the fact you tried to vote off a possible now confirmed town.

Likely could be that you're mafia and you knew it was your opportunity to wipe off a town member with the probability of having a PR removed from town.
Cleve, it's in your best interest if you're town to actually defend yourself rather than give up. Please tell us more about what you think.
@Igorsprite, do you think it's a good idea to eliminate Cleveland?
nice

ghoulybits wrote: v2x52

Cleve, it's in your best interest if you're town to actually defend yourself rather than give up. Please tell us more about what you think.
His silence is really sus. I think something like this happened in prev game and they flipped town. Cleve, you should defend yourself. You a risking in screwing up town otherwise.

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

do it. but if i turned out to be town then give igor a thorough look tomorrow. unlike shin, you're not gonna lose anything for voting me out.
Not much is said, but this makes me hesitant about Cleveland.

My asumption was that they were scum buddy with Igor, but now they are flipping on Igor.

I am extremely sure that Igor is scum, so Cleveland being against them makes me reconsider my assumption. I think Cleveland might be town, or they are scum buddy and trying to hide their connection.

Btw, we still know that we have for sure either a town tracker or a town cop during the game, both of which can tell who is scum.

If we have a cop, they can obviously figure out a scum, and if we have a tracker, the only player who can make an action is scum, so they act basically the same as a cop (assuming there is only one mafia)

I think the best course of action is to eliminate Igor and then let our tracker or cop investigate Cleveland to determine if they are scum.
I think I agree with that plan.

UNVOTE: ClevelandIsMyBro
That being said, for the love of god, tracker/cop please do NOT roleclaim until tomorrow. This is common sense, but it's technically possible for someone like Manish to end dup being the other town PR so I should probably spell it out.
I guess the only way to find out a mafia member(if we still haven't kicked out one) is to sacrifice out town PR, which is risky in itself.

Instructing the town PR to reveal his role when he's found out scum member the next day, collectively vote off mafia and lose the only PR.

Or: Keep waiting till PR has received both the roles of mafia(if he manages to survive that far) and we'd win.

samX500 wrote: 4e1z5d

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

do it. but if i turned out to be town then give igor a thorough look tomorrow. unlike shin, you're not gonna lose anything for voting me out.
Not much is said, but this makes me hesitant about Cleveland.

My asumption was that they were scum buddy with Igor, but now they are flipping on Igor.

I am extremely sure that Igor is scum, so Cleveland being against them makes me reconsider my assumption. I think Cleveland might be town, or they are scum buddy and trying to hide their connection.

Btw, we still know that we have for sure either a town tracker or a town cop during the game, both of which can tell who is scum.

If we have a cop, they can obviously figure out a scum, and if we have a tracker, the only player who can make an action is scum, so they act basically the same as a cop (assuming there is only one mafia)

I think the best course of action is to eliminate Igor and then let our tracker or cop investigate Cleveland to determine if they are scum.
I agree with the plan
unvote: cleveland

ghoulybits wrote: v2x52

That being said, for the love of god, tracker/cop please do NOT roleclaim until tomorrow. This is common sense, but it's technically possible for someone like Manish to end dup being the other town PR so I should probably spell it out.
broooo
why igor? he was way too cooperative day one. especially here. he casually agrees to my absolute trainwreck of a reasoning why i voted shin. it took 1 post from samx to completely change his mind but he completely ignored all the post defending shin before it. so my hypothesis here is igor tried to bandwagon my vote but turns arround as soon as someone saw something fishy.

another reason? two different reasoning why he voted shin.

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

i didn't even notice that we only have 1 day left

i agree with clevelands, shin's roleclaim doesn't mean that he is town and him suggesting nolim contributes to my suspicions. idk why abraker insists that shin is town.

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

i was thinking that if we were in a setup that we didn't have PR we would be giving you both too much credit, but then i changed my mind and decided to wait day 2 to see what would happen.
---
honestly re reading all of this makes me think he's more of an incompetent. but knowing from previous games, he always seems to be really competitive so this is really uncanny behaviour.

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

His silence is really sus.
my interest for this game is kinda low. thats it really. :shrug:
my read coming soon™

samX500 wrote: 4e1z5d

@Igorsprite, do you think it's a good idea to eliminate Cleveland?
no, i don't find anyone sus now, except manish, but he is just too scum to be scum
Is this manish's first game?
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NotRaffi wrote: 171b11

Is this manish's first game?
Very likely
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Evan-Amos, Public domain, from Wikimedia Commons

Current votes 5o3y70

ClevelandsMyBro: (2) abraker, Julian_Kaiser
igorsprite: (1) samX500
The Indian Guy: (1) NotRaffi
No elimination: (0)

Deadline for day is 2022-01-01 12:00:00 UTC.
why me bro i didnt even done something yet
Yea idk i just think that you're sus this game
give us more detail
Mainly the abraker soft accuse and the "i don't have an opinion" (not the exact word i forgot what you said)

NotRaffi wrote: 171b11

Is this manish's first game?
Considering he didn't know basic rules of the game? Probably.

NotRaffi wrote: 171b11

Mainly the abraker soft accuse and the "i don't have an opinion" (not the exact word i forgot what you said)
You can just tag the post
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