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i was thinking that if we were in a setup that we didn't have PR we would be giving you both too much credit, but then i changed my mind and decided to wait day 2 to see what would happen.abraker wrote: 6cx2d
Now that we know Shin was town, I'd really like to know your thought process in why you were at odds against my efforts trying to convince everyone that Shin was indeed town.igorsprite wrote: 6x186x
idk why abraker insists that shin is town.
???? wut but... we were given the setupigorsprite wrote: 6x186x
i was thinking that if we were in a setup that we didn't have PR we would be giving you both too much credit, but then i changed my mind and decided to wait day 2 to see what would happen.abraker wrote: 6cx2d
Now that we know Shin was town, I'd really like to know your thought process in why you were at odds against my efforts trying to convince everyone that Shin was indeed town.igorsprite wrote: 6x186x
idk why abraker insists that shin is town.
DCT wrote: 4w3f2c
In detail, we've got 5 vanillas, 2 random power roles, and 2 scum (one of them can have special powers)igorsprite wrote: 6x186x
newd3 is a 2v7 setup and you just made the game 100% easier for the mafia by claiming your roleShinRun wrote: 4p6j2
I have been forgetting to check this game lol
Hmmmm so based on the role example, it seems like 6 are town while 3 are mafia
I think we should start by claiming roles soooo Im a town doctor
arent all the setup have atleast one PR anyways?igorsprite wrote: 6x186x
i was thinking that if we were in a setup that we didn't have PR we would be giving you both too much credit, but then i changed my mind and decided to wait day 2 to see what would happen.abraker wrote: 6cx2d
Now that we know Shin was town, I'd really like to know your thought process in why you were at odds against my efforts trying to convince everyone that Shin was indeed town.igorsprite wrote: 6x186x
idk why abraker insists that shin is town.
noClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np
arent all the setup have atleast one PR anyways?
oh, i didn't see that xDabraker wrote: 6cx2d
???? wut but... we were given the setup
DCT wrote: 4w3f2c
In detail, we've got 5 vanillas, 2 random power roles, and 2 scum (one of them can have special powers)igorsprite wrote: 6x186x
newd3 is a 2v7 setup and you just made the game 100% easier for the mafia by claiming your roleShinRun wrote: 4p6j2
I have been forgetting to check this game lol
Hmmmm so based on the role example, it seems like 6 are town while 3 are mafia
I think we should start by claiming roles soooo Im a town doctor
hmm that seem weird for you to glance over someone's response of your quoteigorsprite wrote: 6x186x
oh, i didn't see that xDabraker wrote: 6cx2d
???? wut but... we were given the setup
DCT wrote: 4w3f2c
In detail, we've got 5 vanillas, 2 random power roles, and 2 scum (one of them can have special powers)igorsprite wrote: 6x186x
newd3 is a 2v7 setup and you just made the game 100% easier for the mafia by claiming your roleShinRun wrote: 4p6j2
I have been forgetting to check this game lol
Hmmmm so based on the role example, it seems like 6 are town while 3 are mafia
I think we should start by claiming roles soooo Im a town doctor
huuuuh??igorsprite wrote: 6x186x
noClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np
arent all the setup have atleast one PR anyways?
Mafia is now certain what the role selection are, puts them at a high advantage while we are still uncertain, being at a disadvantage.
Although I still haven't made any deductions to say otherwise.
I feel like Manish is just saying this out of spite.The Indian Guy wrote: 2fy6t
I still think abraker is sus
Although I still haven't made any deductions to say otherwise.
Cleveland was the only member to vote Shin and unvote after his mistake, was his tactic to vote off a town member for the sole reason that he made an early roleclaim to attempt making him look scum?
Anyway, as I can't think of a better option rn..
Vote: ClevelandsMyBro
This is also what he could have tried, but that's just a possibility.abraker wrote: 6cx2d
Switching votes to pressure people is a valid scum hunting tactic.
Anyway, as I can't think of a better option rn..
Vote: ClevelandsMyBro
so now Cleveland is at E-2.
We should still wait until the last few days to discuss more.
I would be fine with voting for cleveland but I am much more certain about Igorsprite being scum. I don't believe in their explanation that they just didn't understand the setup.
We should still wait until the last few days to discuss more.
No, Igorsprite also did the same, that's why Igorsprite and Cleveland are the two biggest suspect right now.Julian_Kaiser wrote: c5t1q
Cleveland was the only member to vote Shin and unvote after his mistake
I would be fine with voting for cleveland but I am much more certain about Igorsprite being scum. I don't believe in their explanation that they just didn't understand the setup.
This is a... Confusing move. While Manish definitely has made some Interesting choices throughout this game, I think it would be better worth our time to focus on the people making sketchy plays that actually know the game rather than the person who is confused at every turn.NotRaffi wrote: 171b11
Vote:Manishmanthur
my main reasoning was because of shin's skip voting.Julian_Kaiser wrote: c5t1q
Cleveland was the only member to vote Shin and unvote after his mistake, was his tactic to vote off a town member for the sole reason that he made an early roleclaim to attempt making him look scum?
community/forums/topics/1480949?n=93
nope. my vote was legitimate.Julian_Kaiser wrote: c5t1q
This is also what he could have tried, but that's just a possibility.abraker wrote: 6cx2d
Switching votes to pressure people is a valid scum hunting tactic.
do it. but if i turned out to be town then give igor a thorough look tomorrow. unlike shin, you're not gonna lose anything for voting me out.samX500 wrote: 4e1z5d
I'd still prefer to vote off Igorsprite today but I can cast the hammer if you are okay with that.
If you tell me it's okay I am switching my vote to cleveland.
do it. but if i turned out to be town then give igor a thorough look tomorrow. unlike shin, you're not gonna lose anything for voting me out.[/quote]samX500 wrote: 4e1z5d
I'd still prefer to vote off Igorsprite today but I can cast the hammer if you are okay with that.
If you tell me it's okay I am switching my vote to cleveland.
We still have two full days to discuss. We are about to vote you off but don't just give up. You seem to be on to Igor, tell us why you think they are more likely scum than you.
Knowing your vote was legitimate, I now have more suspicion towards you due to the fact you tried to vote off a possibleClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np
my main reasoning was because of shin's skip voting.Julian_Kaiser wrote: c5t1q
Cleveland was the only member to vote Shin and unvote after his mistake, was his tactic to vote off a town member for the sole reason that he made an early roleclaim to attempt making him look scum?
community/forums/topics/1480949?n=93
nope. my vote was legitimate.Julian_Kaiser wrote: c5t1q
This is also what he could have tried, but that's just a possibility.abraker wrote: 6cx2d
Switching votes to pressure people is a valid scum hunting tactic.
Likely could be that you're mafia and you knew it was your opportunity to wipe off a town member with the probability of having a PR removed from town.
His silence is really sus. I think something like this happened in prev game and they flipped town. Cleve, you should defend yourself. You a risking in screwing up town otherwise.ghoulybits wrote: v2x52
Cleve, it's in your best interest if you're town to actually defend yourself rather than give up. Please tell us more about what you think.
Not much is said, but this makes me hesitant about Cleveland.ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np
do it. but if i turned out to be town then give igor a thorough look tomorrow. unlike shin, you're not gonna lose anything for voting me out.
My asumption was that they were scum buddy with Igor, but now they are flipping on Igor.
I am extremely sure that Igor is scum, so Cleveland being against them makes me reconsider my assumption. I think Cleveland might be town, or they are scum buddy and trying to hide their connection.
Btw, we still know that we have for sure either a town tracker or a town cop during the game, both of which can tell who is scum.
If we have a cop, they can obviously figure out a scum, and if we have a tracker, the only player who can make an action is scum, so they act basically the same as a cop (assuming there is only one mafia)
I think the best course of action is to eliminate Igor and then let our tracker or cop investigate Cleveland to determine if they are scum.
I guess the only way to find out a mafia member(if we still haven't kicked out one) is to sacrifice out town PR, which is risky in itself.
Instructing the town PR to reveal his role when he's found out scum member the next day, collectively vote off mafia and lose the only PR.
Or: Keep waiting till PR has received both the roles of mafia(if he manages to survive that far) and we'd win.
Instructing the town PR to reveal his role when he's found out scum member the next day, collectively vote off mafia and lose the only PR.
Or: Keep waiting till PR has received both the roles of mafia(if he manages to survive that far) and we'd win.
I agree with the plansamX500 wrote: 4e1z5d
Not much is said, but this makes me hesitant about Cleveland.ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np
do it. but if i turned out to be town then give igor a thorough look tomorrow. unlike shin, you're not gonna lose anything for voting me out.
My asumption was that they were scum buddy with Igor, but now they are flipping on Igor.
I am extremely sure that Igor is scum, so Cleveland being against them makes me reconsider my assumption. I think Cleveland might be town, or they are scum buddy and trying to hide their connection.
Btw, we still know that we have for sure either a town tracker or a town cop during the game, both of which can tell who is scum.
If we have a cop, they can obviously figure out a scum, and if we have a tracker, the only player who can make an action is scum, so they act basically the same as a cop (assuming there is only one mafia)
I think the best course of action is to eliminate Igor and then let our tracker or cop investigate Cleveland to determine if they are scum.
unvote: cleveland
why igor? he was way too cooperative day one. especially here. he casually agrees to my absolute trainwreck of a reasoning why i voted shin. it took 1 post from samx to completely change his mind but he completely ignored all the post defending shin before it. so my hypothesis here is igor tried to bandwagon my vote but turns arround as soon as someone saw something fishy.
another reason? two different reasoning why he voted shin.
honestly re reading all of this makes me think he's more of an incompetent. but knowing from previous games, he always seems to be really competitive so this is really uncanny behaviour.
another reason? two different reasoning why he voted shin.
igorsprite wrote: 6x186x
i didn't even notice that we only have 1 day left
i agree with clevelands, shin's roleclaim doesn't mean that he is town and him suggesting nolim contributes to my suspicions. idk why abraker insists that shin is town.
---igorsprite wrote: 6x186x
i was thinking that if we were in a setup that we didn't have PR we would be giving you both too much credit, but then i changed my mind and decided to wait day 2 to see what would happen.
honestly re reading all of this makes me think he's more of an incompetent. but knowing from previous games, he always seems to be really competitive so this is really uncanny behaviour.
my interest for this game is kinda low. thats it really. :shrug:abraker wrote: 6cx2d
His silence is really sus.
Oh I glossed this over until sam quoted it. Yea this pretty much maes Cleve and Igor both scum not likely. I am going to interpolate from past games as a good enough reason to vote igor this game based on his behavior.ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np
do it. but if i turned out to be town then give igor a thorough look tomorrow. unlike shin, you're not gonna lose anything for voting me out.
Vote: igorsprite
I'd also suspect NotRaffi because he miraculously hasn't fucked up the game at this point, which implies he might be playing it safe.
The suggestion proposed by Sam seems best acceptable as of now.
I don't think Cleveland and Igor would be scum partners according to I've read to what Cleveland has mentioned, since he also suggests against Igor.
So if Igor does indeed turn out scum, Cleveland is what he claims.
Unless there's some sort of wits involved in this proposal which seems unlikely.
I don't think Cleveland and Igor would be scum partners according to I've read to what Cleveland has mentioned, since he also suggests against Igor.
So if Igor does indeed turn out scum, Cleveland is what he claims.
Unless there's some sort of wits involved in this proposal which seems unlikely.
Julian_Kaiser wrote: c5t1q
The suggestion proposed by Sam seems best acceptable as of now.
I don't think Cleveland and Igor would be scum partners according to I've read to what Cleveland has mentioned, since he also suggests against Igor.
So if Igor does indeed turn out scum, Cleveland is what he claims.
Unless there's some sort of wits involved in this proposal which seems unlikely.
Just a reminder that part of the plan is for the cop/tracker to investigate cleveland to check if they are scum partner with Igor.
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Final results 2u4su
igorsprite: (E) samX500, abraker, ghoulybits, The Indian Guy, ClevelandsMyBroClevelandsMyBro: (1) Julian_Kaiser
The Indian Guy: (1) NotRaffi
No elimination: (0)
igorsprite, a Mafia Goon, has been eliminated. Night begins.
Just curious why their are star in the end in some namesDCT wrote: 4w3f2c
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Prods are denoted by asterisk (*).
- abraker
- samX500
- manishmathur*
- ghoulybits
- ClevelandsMyBro*
- NotRaffi*
- Julian_Kaiser
Dead 2r3l6w
- ShinRun, Town Doctor, killed Night 1
- igorsprite, Mafia Goon, eliminated Day 2
idk, I just kinda think that manish is pretty suspicious, also how am I supposed to know that they were scum before the night lmaosamX500 wrote: 4e1z5d
@Julian_kaiser
@NotRaffi
You two did not vote for igorsprite, who is a confirmed scum.
Did you perhaps note vote for them because they were your scum buddy?
everyone was done parking their votes and the only vote slot was the hammering,samX500 wrote: 4e1z5d
@Julian_kaiser
@NotRaffi
You two did not vote for igorsprite, who is a confirmed scum.
Did you perhaps note vote for them because they were your scum buddy?
As I have said above, I did not wish to hammer him immediately as it would result towards the end of the day meaning to end day2 discussion, then I went offline and wasn't active when he gave the directive to vote him out.
Hence, the very reason I chose to unvote Cleveland was to switch to a better suggestion.
Another reason why I did not vote immediately was because I saw in my previous game(also my first and only game) when another player took the early decision, it led to worser scenarios.
Under such circumstances, I was unable to in the vote.
I think the main 3 suspects are NotRaffi, Julian_Kaiser and ClevelandsMyBro.
NotRaffi and Julian_kaiser are the two who didn't vote for Igorsprite, which may indicate that they are scumbuddy.
ClevelandsMyBro seemed to be partner with Igorsprite on day 1 with the same vote on ShinRun, but on day 2 they disociated themselves. They also casted the hammer for Igorsprite. They could be town, but it could also be because they are trying to hide their ties with Igorsprite and sacrificed them to appear town.
Every slot in this game has talked at least once this day except The_indian_guy.
Yesterday, we asked the town cop/tracker to investigate Cleveland and they haven't responded. If they had found that ClevelandsMyBro is scum they should have told us already since they would have found the last scum. Since they haven't answered, it could mean any of the following.
-Our PR got roleblocked.
-Our PR found that ClevelandsMyBro is town and don't want to reveal themselves.
-Our PR didn't target ClevelandsMyBro.
-Our PR is The_indian_guy and can't report their investigation because they are being forced replaced.
NotRaffi and Julian_kaiser are the two who didn't vote for Igorsprite, which may indicate that they are scumbuddy.
ClevelandsMyBro seemed to be partner with Igorsprite on day 1 with the same vote on ShinRun, but on day 2 they disociated themselves. They also casted the hammer for Igorsprite. They could be town, but it could also be because they are trying to hide their ties with Igorsprite and sacrificed them to appear town.
Every slot in this game has talked at least once this day except The_indian_guy.
Yesterday, we asked the town cop/tracker to investigate Cleveland and they haven't responded. If they had found that ClevelandsMyBro is scum they should have told us already since they would have found the last scum. Since they haven't answered, it could mean any of the following.
-Our PR got roleblocked.
-Our PR found that ClevelandsMyBro is town and don't want to reveal themselves.
-Our PR didn't target ClevelandsMyBro.
-Our PR is The_indian_guy and can't report their investigation because they are being forced replaced.
2 and 3 most likely so I am willing to believe one of those two over the others.samX500 wrote: 4e1z5d
1. Our PR got roleblocked.
2. Our PR found that ClevelandsMyBro is town and don't want to reveal themselves.
3. Our PR didn't target ClevelandsMyBro.
4. Our PR is The_indian_guy and can't report their investigation because they are being forced replaced.
Can you elaborate what you meant by this?ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np
somethings fishy
Ignore my previous post,
Fixed:
Just to remind some minor mistakes.
I recall unvoting, not that it really matters now.DCT wrote: 4w3f2c
Evan-Amos, Public domain, from Wikimedia Commons[/centre]
Final results 2u4su
igorsprite: (E) samX500, abraker, ghoulybits, The Indian Guy, ClevelandsMyBro
ClevelandsMyBro: (1) Julian_Kaiser
The Indian Guy: (1) NotRaffi
No elimination: (0)
Just to remind some minor mistakes.
lol ok, only person I found sus the entire game is just the one i voted on last day, I'm not active often because of reasons but everyday i tried to read everything to catch up and yeah, that's itJulian_Kaiser wrote: c5t1q
You could tell us if you find anyone more suspicious/reasonable to vote out other than yourself.NotRaffi wrote: 171b11
Like, I have no way of defending myself except for just saying no right?
And why we should vote them out.