I'm a good choice but I'm ton

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Current votes 5o3y70

samX500: (1) abraker
ghoulybits: (1) ShinRun
No elimination: (0)

Not voting: (7 players)

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igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

so we should vote for who is less active

Abraker will probably call this a terrible idea

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

I can't believe we are arguing over when to roleclaim

How about we do scum hunting?

The thought of you dropping roleclaim idea sounds pretty scum.
Vote: abraker

While scum hunting has always been the route, it is also viable to decide when to roleclaim before things become more disastrous.
For now, we'll take decisions together on whom the town PR should Target without telling him/her to reveal his/her role.

Julian_Kaiser wrote: c5t1q

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

I can't believe we are arguing over when to roleclaim

How about we do scum hunting?

The thought of you dropping roleclaim idea sounds pretty scum.
Vote: abraker

Because it's too early to even consider that. It takes away focus from what we should be doing: SCUM HUNTING

Roleclaiming right now is probably not a good idea. While it could help to either legitimize or delegitimize ShinRun's claims, it's also essentially putting a target on someone's back when it isn't necessary this early into the game.

@NotRaffi
@ClevelandsMyBro

Who would you vote today?

samX500 wrote: 4e1z5d

@NotRaffi
@ClevelandsMyBro

Who would you vote today?

gonna stick to my guts and vote the most obvious man since the begining. shin's "not voting" plan killed all my thought of him being town.

Vote: Shinrun

we dont have much time left. you lot need to make up your minds.

Cleveland is the second scum btw.

ha. vote me out then.

Cleveland

samX500 wrote: 4e1z5d

@NotRaffi
@ClevelandsMyBro

Who would you vote today?

I think I'm just gonna drop the last vote

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Current votes 5o3y70

samX500: (1) abraker
ghoulybits: (1) ShinRun
abraker: (1) Julian_Kaiser
ShinRun: (1) ClevelandsMyBro
No elimination: (0)

Not voting: (7 players)

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i didn't even notice that we only have 1 day left

i agree with clevelands, shin's roleclaim doesn't mean that he is town and him suggesting nolim contributes to my suspicions. idk why abraker insists that shin is town.

Vote: Shinrun

so now Shinrun is E-1. So imma give my thought.

I am most suspicious of igorsprite right now because they are acting very cooperative, which from previous game I have learned that they are mostly cooperative when being scum.

I also think voting ShinRun is the worst possible idea. If they are scum, we will know by next night. If they are town, we are saving scum the hassle of killing one of our PR.

i'd also be down with voting cleveland and possible ghouly, since both of them also voted ShinRun. Though Ghouly has contributed a lot more so i'd go with cleveland first.

samX500 wrote: 4e1z5d

I am most suspicious of igorsprite right now because they are acting very cooperative, which from previous game I have learned that they are mostly cooperative when being scum.

hey, i'm reformed now

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

samX500 wrote: 4e1z5d

I am most suspicious of igorsprite right now because they are acting very cooperative, which from previous game I have learned that they are mostly cooperative when being scum.

hey, i'm reformed now

Then please explain why you are voting ShinRun so early. If they are truly town doctor, then us eliminating them means scum won't have to kill them and will be able to try and kill the second PR.

And if they are scum, they will be mostly revealed tommorow by them being still alive. With the off-chance that scum plays with fire and leaves them alive.

To me it seems like you are trying to get a free kill on a town PR.

? I didn't vote ShinRun. In fact, I have specifically been arguing the same points as you have to NOT vote him.

ghoulybits wrote: v2x52

? I didn't vote ShinRun. In fact, I have specifically been arguing the same points as you have to NOT vote him.

oh sorry, I am drunk. I thought that you had voted ShinRun earlier on when they voted you.

samX500 wrote: 4e1z5d

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

samX500 wrote: 4e1z5d

I am most suspicious of igorsprite right now because they are acting very cooperative, which from previous game I have learned that they are mostly cooperative when being scum.

hey, i'm reformed now

Then please explain why you are voting ShinRun so early. If they are truly town doctor, then us eliminating them means scum won't have to kill them and will be able to try and kill the second PR.

And if they are scum, they will be mostly revealed tommorow by them being still alive. With the off-chance that scum plays with fire and leaves them alive.

To me it seems like you are trying to get a free kill on a town PR.

oke, i will wait and see what happens.

i was thinking that only the cop could confirm if shin is town or scum, but just by having 2 PR is enough. so i think that shin being alive day 2 will not be a problem

Unvote

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

i didn't even notice that we only have 1 day left

i agree with clevelands, shin's roleclaim doesn't mean that he is town and him suggesting nolim contributes to my suspicions. idk why abraker insists that shin is town.

Vote: Shinrun

Please refer to the latest vote count post for deadline.

How to read a vote count entry:

Candidate: (number of voters) A list of players voting the candidate
ACertainScum: (1) TownMayor

samX500 wrote: 4e1z5d

I also think voting ShinRun is the worst possible idea. If they are scum, we will know by next night. If they are town, we are saving scum the hassle of killing one of our PR.

Basically this

It's in mafia's best interest to have ShinRun voted out during the day because they cannot guarantee they can kill him during the night. It's literally a shot in the dark as to whether ShinRun will protect himself or not, so leaving it up to a night time elimination chance is not ideal for them. In order to have ShinRun voted out during the data mafia must do everything they can to convince town that ShinRun is likely scum. This includes enforcing ideas that ShinRun fake claimed.

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

idk why abraker insists that shin is town.

Did you not read any of my post here: community/forums/posts/8435874

It is disadvantageous for BOTH town and scum to roleclaim this early. It's bad for town because exactly this happens - they are accused and risk being lynched. It's bad for scum, ESPECIALLY when claiming a power role, because they can be called out on it later on and because like town they risk of being accused and lynched. For scum to roleclaim doctor you gotta feel like you might win the lottery. You must be out of you goddamn mind if you think Shin is scum, that or you are scum.

It's going to be 10x more disasterous for town if ShinRun turns up PR town than if he does as scum. It's best to wait when dealing with possible PR roles. Suppress your lizard brains for once and don't lynch when someone does an oops.


I'm more comfortable lynching Cleveland right now.

Vote: ClevelandsMyBro

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

samX500 wrote: 4e1z5d

I am most suspicious of igorsprite right now because they are acting very cooperative, which from previous game I have learned that they are mostly cooperative when being scum.

hey, i'm reformed now

When has your calmer "reformed" demeanor ever hint that you are a townie?

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

i didn't even notice that we only have 1 day left

We got more than 1 day left. A few actually...

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

so we should vote for who is less active

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

Abraker will probably call this a terrible idea

But seriously, out of all times I thought that an inactive person might be scum, they never were. So I don't think it's a good idea based on past experience.

That's said, keep your eyes pealed on who suddenly becomes inactive 👀

I don't agree with the idea of lynching Shin as it could affect this game deeply.
While his role is not confirmed, it would lead to a great disadvantage for town if he does in fact turn out to be what he claims.

NotRaffi wrote: 171b11

samX500 wrote: 4e1z5d

@NotRaffi
@ClevelandsMyBro

Who would you vote today?

I think I'm just gonna drop the last vote

Whom do you think is innocent/would you not vote against?
Is there any one whom you believe is a townie, or has lesser chance of being mafia?

Also Manish, try answering the question above.

Here are the possible outcomes regarding ShinRun:

If ShinRun is scum and doesn't get voted out: we have two scum to hunt for instead of one (assuming that we don't somehow get the other scum in voting)
If ShinRun is scum and gets voted out: we have only one scum to fine, but town will still continue to die regardless
If ShinRun is telling the truth and doesn't get voted out: we have a doctor who can heal himself / any town member that puts themselves at risk during the day
If ShinRun is telling the truth and gets voted out: we lose the ability to heal as well as a member of town

(and of course there's also the possibility that ShinRun is a vanilla townie/other PR that's lying about being a doctor, but that would be... literally idiotic. ShinRun, I swear to god, if this is what you did I will never forgive you)

In my opinion, the potential downsides of voting ShinRun outweigh the potential upsides. At best town gets a small lead that could still be fucked up, at worst town is majorly crippled for the rest of the game. Anyone who continues to advocate for ShinRun's death is gambling far too much this early in the game.

Julian_Kaiser wrote: c5t1q

Also Manish, try answering the question above.

I don't think he'll respond.

Julian_Kaiser wrote: c5t1q

I don't agree with the idea of lynching Shin as it could affect this game deeply.
While his role is not confirmed, it would lead to a great disadvantage for town if he does in fact turn out to be what he claims.

NotRaffi wrote: 171b11

samX500 wrote: 4e1z5d

@NotRaffi
@ClevelandsMyBro

Who would you vote today?

I think I'm just gonna drop the last vote

Whom do you think is innocent/would you not vote against?
Is there any one whom you believe is a townie, or has lesser chance of being mafia?

Also Manish, try answering the question above.

You sus

How the heck i suppose to know who is innocent. I don't even know my role
Dont vote me

manishmathur wrote: 49y5n

Julian_Kaiser wrote: c5t1q

I don't agree with the idea of lynching Shin as it could affect this game deeply.
While his role is not confirmed, it would lead to a great disadvantage for town if he does in fact turn out to be what he claims.

NotRaffi wrote: 171b11

samX500 wrote: 4e1z5d

@NotRaffi
@ClevelandsMyBro

Who would you vote today?

I think I'm just gonna drop the last vote

Whom do you think is innocent/would you not vote against?
Is there any one whom you believe is a townie, or has lesser chance of being mafia?

Also Manish, try answering the question above.

You sus

How the heck i suppose to know who is innocent. I don't even know the roles
Dont vote me

It is 2 scum, 5 vanilla town and 2 random town roles. There is a more detailed explanation of this setup.

ghoulybits wrote: v2x52

If ShinRun is telling the truth and doesn't get voted out: we have a doctor who can heal himself / any town member that puts themselves at risk during the day

A doctor can't heal themself.

Ok so i found my role

I thought that was some fucking bot promoting Nintendo xd

I will go with the majority

DCT wrote: 4w3f2c

ghoulybits wrote: v2x52

If ShinRun is telling the truth and doesn't get voted out: we have a doctor who can heal himself / any town member that puts themselves at risk during the day

A doctor can't heal themself.

Whoops, my bad. Some games I've played before have that as a mechanic, so I got confused. Thanks for the correction.

So lets vote shitruin

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Current votes 5o3y70

ghoulybits: (1) ShinRun
abraker: (1) Julian_Kaiser
ShinRun: (1) ClevelandsMyBro
ClevelandsMyBro: (1) abraker
No elimination: (0)

Not voting: (5 players)

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To vote, type VOTE: John Smith in bold font:

[b]VOTE: John Smith[/b]

for god sakes mod. i thohught the deadline was today since the game start post says so.

since its not im gonna retract my vote from shin. honestly got way too ahead of myself when voting shin anyways yesterday due to my inability to read.

Unvote: Shinrun

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

I'm more comfortable lynching Cleveland right now.

Vote: ClevelandsMyBro

i understand abraker's vote. my lack of activity, contribution, and knowledge of the game makes me a prime victim of lynching (at least today). i dont have an excuse other than i suck really. and i also dont wanna bring up external reasons.

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

i didn't even notice that we only have 1 day left

We got more than 1 day left. A few actually...

the yyyy/mm/dd confused me @.@

manishmathur wrote: 49y5n

So lets vote shitruin

here is a good tip;

dont be like me and read through all the 120 posts ot know what is happening. from there you can make a solid reasoning and argument who to vote.

Julian_Kaiser wrote: c5t1q

I don't agree with the idea of lynching Shin as it could affect this game deeply.
While his role is not confirmed, it would lead to a great disadvantage for town if he does in fact turn out to be what he claims.

NotRaffi wrote: 171b11

samX500 wrote: 4e1z5d

@NotRaffi
@ClevelandsMyBro

Who would you vote today?

I think I'm just gonna drop the last vote

Whom do you think is innocent/would you not vote against?
Is there any one whom you believe is a townie, or has lesser chance of being mafia?

Also Manish, try answering the question above.

after reading 125posts

idk who is innocent but abraker and shitruin is pretty sus

shitruin being dumb at starting is very sus and I feel like he did that on purpose but if he didn't then he will die at night, so we should not vote him out and wait for him to die. If he didn't died then he is more sus because if there is 2 mafia and one is shitruin then the other mafia will not kill him so he will not be suspicious

abraker on the other hand feel super aggressive and I think he is just trying to make us confuse to who to vote.
VOTE abraker

Currently, I feel like Cleveland is one of the scum

I’ll write out the reasons later, I have class now

manishmathur wrote: 49y5n

VOTE abraker

To vote, type VOTE: Somebody in bold font:

[b]VOTE: Somebody[/b]

manishmathur wrote: 49y5n

Extend

Julian_Kaiser wrote: c5t1q

I don't agree with the idea of lynching Shin as it could affect this game deeply.
While his role is not confirmed, it would lead to a great disadvantage for town if he does in fact turn out to be what he claims.

NotRaffi wrote: 171b11

samX500 wrote: 4e1z5d

@NotRaffi
@ClevelandsMyBro

Who would you vote today?

I think I'm just gonna drop the last vote

Whom do you think is innocent/would you not vote against?
Is there any one whom you believe is a townie, or has lesser chance of being mafia?

Also Manish, try answering the question above.

after reading 125posts

idk who is innocent but abraker and shitruin is pretty sus

shitruin being dumb at starting is very sus and I feel like he did that on purpose but if he didn't then he will die at night, so we should not vote him out and wait for him to die. If he didn't died then he is more sus because if there is 2 mafia and one is shitruin then the other mafia will not kill him so he will not be suspicious

abraker on the other hand feel super aggressive and I think he is just trying to make us confuse to who to vote.
VOTE abraker

Glad to see you're on the same page.

As for now:
-NotRaffi's contributions are too insufficient for me to say anything about him.
-Cleveland has provided more input but I still can't say much about it.
-Shin has made the maximum number of posts,
If Shinrun is mafia, was his intention to begin early roleclaim all there was to it or is there something else behind it?
-Abraker cutting off a conversation topic to focus more on another did make sense but also raises my suspicions on him. While I was against the idea of early roleclaiming, I wasn't against the idea of deciding futher timings for roleclaiming as it seemed like a minor topic that wouldn't really stretch out that far in length.
-confused about igorsprite as I didn't read much of his posts, is he displaying some form of irony or sort of sarcasm?
Mentioned about voting the least active but voted for the most active member, well he did unvote...

I guess those are my suspicions for now

VOTE: abraker

manishmathur wrote: 49y5n

Julian_Kaiser wrote: c5t1q

I don't agree with the idea of lynching Shin as it could affect this game deeply.
While his role is not confirmed, it would lead to a great disadvantage for town if he does in fact turn out to be what he claims.

NotRaffi wrote: 171b11

samX500 wrote: 4e1z5d

@NotRaffi
@ClevelandsMyBro

Who would you vote today?

I think I'm just gonna drop the last vote

Whom do you think is innocent/would you not vote against?
Is there any one whom you believe is a townie, or has lesser chance of being mafia?

Also Manish, try answering the question above.

You sus

How the heck i suppose to know who is innocent. I don't even know my role
Dont vote me

Since you edited here,
I think I should say this,

Editing your post is grounds for an immediate modkill. Don't do it. PLEASE
DON'T DO IT.

This is in case you did not read the rules and not aware of it.

ohhh

So I'll put out my own read on everyone in this game.

abraker - abraker haven't been as active this game but he does point out important stuff and it seems like abraker is pretty confident that I am town. Based on the argument abraker have given I think abraker is a townie.

ghouly - I'm pretty confident that ghouly is a townie as I don't think any scum in the right mind wouldn't want a lynch day 1. Ghouly is also ive of me being a townie.

Raffi - Raffi is barely active and kinda just go with the crowd. I can't really judge raffi.

Sam - I'm leaning a bit toward the town side for sam as he is doing alot of scum hunting and calling others out.

Julian - I feel like Julian is townie but I'm not really sure

Igor - Yeah igor is cooperating too much this game and I don't even think he trolled once. He is pushing quite hard to vote me off even though it's more beneficial to vote me off day 2 if I'm scum so I feel like he's scum.

Cleve - Cleveland is also pushing really hard to vote me off and his excuse of not reading correctly seems really suspicious. The only reason he unvoted me is that others were gonna vote him off.

Manish - The indian guy have no clue to play this game

Oh yeah I forgot UNVOTE

I haven't got my reads quite figured out yet this early in the game, so at the moment I'm hesitant to provide a list.

So i am safe


Who knows i am the mafia and just trying to be dumb so i don't be suspicious

manishmathur wrote: 49y5n

So i am safe


Who knows i am the mafia and just trying to be dumb so i don't be suspicious

Do not delete posts. Further offense would result in force replacement.

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Current votes 5o3y70

abraker: (2) Julian_Kaiser, manishmathur
ShinRun: (1) ClevelandsMyBro
ClevelandsMyBro: (1) abraker
No elimination: (0)

Not voting: (5 players)

Deadline for day is 2021-12-24 04:00:00 UTC.

DCT wrote: 4w3f2c

manishmathur wrote: 49y5n

So i am safe


Who knows i am the mafia and just trying to be dumb so i don't be suspicious

Do not delete posts. Further offense would result in force replacement.

Sorry sir

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

Cleve - Cleveland is also pushing really hard to vote me off and his excuse of not reading correctly seems really suspicious. The only reason he unvoted me is that others were gonna vote him off.

i read the deadline wrong and got put on the spot by samx. then i made an absolute trash post about how you are scum based on only one reason + vote you. then i realised the dealine changed.

DCT wrote: 4w3f2c

ShinRun: (1) ClevelandsMyBro

i said Unvote

Correcting.

Current votes 5o3y70

abraker: (2) Julian_Kaiser, manishmathur
ClevelandsMyBro: (1) abraker
No elimination: (0)

Not voting: (6 players)

Deadline for day is 2021-12-24 04:00:00 UTC.

manishmathur wrote: 49y5n

abraker on the other hand feel super aggressive and I think he is just trying to make us confuse to who to vote.
VOTE abraker

No shit I super aggressive when town is a vote a away from lynching a pr townie. You should be too. I have no idea why people doubt Shin can be town. I have no idea why Shin's claim is fake. It just doesn't make sense for it to be fake.

Also I never told anyone who to vote yet. I dunno where you got the "make us confused who to vote" part. Switching votes to pressure people is a valid scum hunting tactic.

Since my last post my suspicion are still on Cleveland and igorsprite. They both removed their vote but it may be damage control after realizing that they couldn't get ShinRun voted out.

For now I'll park my vote on cleveland for now, that puts them at E-2

VOTE: ClevelandsMyBro

Outside of those two I don't suspect anyone else enough to vote them instead. On thing to point out is Julian_Kaiser and manishmathur are both voting for abraker right now. But it seems just like bad play to me, not necessarily scum play.

Wait isn’t the day over now?

Oh wait it got moved from 21st to 24th

To be fair, I'm pretty sure manish voted abraker because julian did. I feel like Manish's words are going to be much more important than his actions when trying to figure out if he's scum or not.

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

Igor - Yeah igor is cooperating too much this game and I don't even think he trolled once.

so i need to be less cooperative and more troll? xD

btw sry about my inactivity, it's christmas time and i'm doing a lot of irl stuff

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

Igor - Yeah igor is cooperating too much this game and I don't even think he trolled once.

so i need to be less cooperative and more troll? xD

Anything you do at this point is going to be sus. Blame your prev plays.

igorsprite be like:

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

igorsprite be like:

oh, i like this game :3

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

igorsprite be like:

oh, i like this game :3

Oh no

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Current votes 5o3y70

abraker: (2) Julian_Kaiser, manishmathur
ClevelandsMyBro: (2) abraker, samX500
No elimination: (0)

Not voting: (4 players)

Deadline for day is 2021-12-24 04:00:00 UTC.

@DCT

change my name

The Indian Guy wrote: 2fy6t

@DCT

change my name

Would be done in the next post

Less than 1 day left until end of voting. If no player received enough votes, day would end without any elimination.

Sooooo who we vote

I think it should be someone among Cleve, igor or Julian however I feel like Julian shouldn’t be voted off day 1 yet

idk man

I'm leaning more towards Cleve or Igor, but I'm not fully committed to the idea of voting someone off.

1. Town does not lynch
2. Shin is nk'd
3. We have 8 people left
4. We have no new info
5. It's repeat of day 1 again

Anyone who thinks it will go any differently is only fooling themselves

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Result 306o6f

abraker: (2) Julian_Kaiser, The Indian Guy
ClevelandsMyBro: (2) abraker, samX500
No elimination: (0)

Not voting: (5 players)

Day 1 ends without any eliminations.
Night 1 begins.

Tie

The Indian Guy wrote: 2fy6t

Tie

No way

DCT wrote: 4w3f2c

The Indian Guy wrote: 2fy6t

Tie

No way

not tie?

Why everything is soo silence

You’re not allowed to talk at night

Ohhh
Why are you talking then

Let me sleep in peace

A new day begins. ShinRun, a Town Doctor, is dead.


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Current votes 5o3y70

No elimination: (0)

Not voting: (8 players)

Deadline for day is 2022-01-01 12:00:00 UTC.

VOTE:Igorsprite

Rip shitruin
he was a honest and innocent man but he couldn't survive the evil society

Vote: ClevelandsMyBro

VOTE: ClevelandIsMyBro

I'll hold off on voting Igor for now.

last day I followed abraker on voting Cleveland, however I have thought about it and I think Igorsprite is a better candidate to vote off. Igorsprite seems quite experienced at mafia and so I don't think they would genuinely make the mistake of trying to vote ShinRun.

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

idk why abraker insists that shin is town.

Now that we know Shin was town, I'd really like to know your thought process in why you were at odds against my efforts trying to convince everyone that Shin was indeed town.

Idk man what to do

i have no doubt on anyone now

L

NotRaffi has been prodded.

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Current votes 5o3y70

igorsprite: (1) samX500
ClevelandsMyBro: (2) abraker, ghoulybits
No elimination: (0)

Not voting: (8 players)

Deadline for day is 2022-01-01 12:00:00 UTC.

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

idk why abraker insists that shin is town.

Now that we know Shin was town, I'd really like to know your thought process in why you were at odds against my efforts trying to convince everyone that Shin was indeed town.

i was thinking that if we were in a setup that we didn't have PR we would be giving you both too much credit, but then i changed my mind and decided to wait day 2 to see what would happen.

So he did turn out what he claimed

yup

I still think abraker is sus

DCT wrote: 4w3f2c

NotRaffi has been prodded.

he posted earlier before prod, yet he's still prodded?