Best thing ever is followpoints with direction
It would be cool if we could also change the "density" of them! (change the average distance between each followpoint and another this way)
And the skin as a whole is a lot better in of readability in comparison with the previous default skin
Great job!

Hatate-tan wrote: 1tf1g

Had errors. What should I do?

SPOILER

all issues need to be posted in technical 5

I feels like updates season of osu! right now lol too much improvement in UI xD

Nice skin. But new mode select and result screen make me angry. And animated misses - what the hell, who add this?

So good new skin
But it have a little problem when you use custom skin for changing some hitsouds for ex, the old sliderpoint10 / sliderpiont30 become displayed

osu! logo in song select is covering the rank bar.

Awoken- wrote: e3j1x

osu! logo in song select is covering the rank bar.

Image

already been reported in tech

Nice

I love this update! the game looks so neat now with the new default skin.

Love:
Less Japanese themed. I've always wanted it to look like a regular music game style, if that makes sense. Now it does.
Gamemode changing from play screen.
No big giant exploding 300s, 100s, and 50s.



Dislike:
How the SS looks. Needs to be more noticeable, it just sort of looks like a thicker S.
How the spinner looks. Uhh... needs to be more simple I think.

Cool update!

WTF my fucking antivirus found a virus xD

either allow osu! as a safe program or use something other than avira :p

I FRIGGIN' LOVE HOW THE TAIKO EDITOR CHANGES THE NOTE COLOR AUTOMATICALLY TO RED/BLUE
This is so gonna help in mapping further Taiko diffs so much

tetsutaro wrote: 2o1f1h

I FRIGGIN' LOVE HOW THE TAIKO EDITOR CHANGES THE NOTE COLOR AUTOMATICALLY TO RED/BLUE
This is so gonna help in mapping further Taiko diffs so much

Actually made for the lazyasses

me, Luanny, etc. /runs

only what i can say is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!

this update is so good HAHAHA

Everything looks great. The only thing that bugs me right now is when I scroll through scores and I'm at the bottom 40 end of the score board and press the arrow to scroll over. It takes me to rank 80 instead of the top at 41. Slightly annoying to have to scroll back to the top to look at the 41st/81st place after scrolling to the bottom.

My only concern is how this will affect future ranking criteria in of hitburst overlapping circles being a much less severe problem with the new hitbursts.

The spinner is on ACID btw o_o and the hit lightning is for some reason half the original size, even on custom skins, which is very confusing at the moment.
The new follow points are brilliant. Using them in my new custom skin as of now!

Overall great job!

@kriers: RC will stay the same, just that it'll be more lenient in that regard, since the RC only mentions "if it renders them invisible/covers them"

I think a down arrow at result screen would be a nice idea since it doesn't seem to be very intuitive to people that they need to scroll down, or a message telling them to scroll down for it, or idk.

Likes:
- The new default skin, especially the followpoint and the shining spinner.
- The osu!stream-like interfaces.
- Hitbursts are now at the bottom of the objects.

Dislikes:
- Sliderball is also dimmed under Flashlight. Not sure if intentional, but posting here just in case.
- The bright cursor makes it hard to spin small with the new spinner.
- The leaderboard is indeed scrollable by dragging, but only if you drag it around the right side of the leaderboard because you can't click at the left side.
- The small SS and S (and especially SSH and SH) icons are almost indistinguishable. I prefer clearly showing two 'S'-es instead of being stacked or overlapped.
- The gradually-appearing sliderticks. I prefer the old behavior.

Sakura wrote: 1q3420

I think a down arrow at result screen would be a nice idea since it doesn't seem to be very intuitive to people that they need to scroll down, or a message telling them to scroll down for it, or idk.

The first thing I saw at the ranking screen is the existence of the scrollbar at the right-side, and I immediately used mouse-wheel on that.

Isn't good. I can't play with this Skin. I hate it.

Love the new default skin, but it makes my custom skin messed up ):
But,

osu logo covers the rank stats. hope it fixed soon, if it possible?

peppy wrote: 6w4l42

Also worth a mention is the few s that stick around on the test build and provide near real-time on the changes (hi statementreply).

Please add somebody who plays high AR to the testgroup next time, the movement of the falling failmarks tips me off and I fail even more.
Inb4 "Reskin it so it's invisible you faggot!"

Very nice!!

but i'll keep using custom skins. Still very awesome!

10/10

Awesome and too hard...

Can't play the game with this skin...

Fenek Alfa wrote: 192p4s

peppy wrote: 6w4l42

Also worth a mention is the few s that stick around on the test build and provide near real-time on the changes (hi statementreply).

Please add somebody who plays high AR to the testgroup next time, the movement of the falling failmarks tips me off and I fail even more.
Inb4 "Reskin it so it's invisible you faggot!"

There's no such thing as a "testgroup" - any ers are free to hang around on the test build and test new updates. It's just a coincidence that the few s who are regulars there don't really play AR10 (I tested AR9 insanes there and they were fine.)
Although it may not even be a coincidence, I'm fairly sure that 95% of osu! can't read AR10 at all (it's just the vocal minority as well as the top 5% of players who can)

Fenek Alfa wrote: 192p4s

peppy wrote: 6w4l42

Also worth a mention is the few s that stick around on the test build and provide near real-time on the changes (hi statementreply).

Please add somebody who plays high AR to the testgroup next time, the movement of the falling failmarks tips me off and I fail even more.
Inb4 "Reskin it so it's invisible you faggot!"

Anyone can test as long as they are er and use the test build.

Fenek Alfa wrote: 192p4s

peppy wrote: 6w4l42

Also worth a mention is the few s that stick around on the test build and provide near real-time on the changes (hi statementreply).

Please add somebody who plays high AR to the testgroup next time, the movement of the falling failmarks tips me off and I fail even more.
Inb4 "Reskin it so it's invisible you faggot!"

Beta testing isn't done by selection... it's a bonus for donating.

deadbeat wrote: 819

http://puu.sh/1eLHw <- old default skin link i found at the link i already gave :p

Thanks! I find hitbursts too small with the new one.

I must really say this new UI is pretty amazingly well done. Very smooth and simple while still managing to be visually appealing, AND it's 400% more readable than the previous (read: actually usable now). Just the way I like it. My only gripes would be the new rank icons and the scrolling on the results screen, but otherwise it's pretty great.

Thanks for all the recent graphical enhancements peppy, as someone who spends way too much time in photoshop messing with the game.

I think it would be beneficial to have some options regarding the new changes outside of skins (the falling x's, the ranking screen ect); many people seem to dislike these (including me) and as of now we have no way to alter them. Everything excepting (and I hate to reiterate) the spinners, is very nice and clean, however. Regarding the follow points, many have seemed to say that they enjoy them...I find them confusing when they overlap / or are close together (for example on the Spinboxer dif of backsteps' Dj Okawari Canon map), and am curious as to hear what people like about them

Can add hidden 300 and transparent function?
thanks!

It's nice and looks awesome, but I'm having a harder time seeing whether I get 300, 100, or 50... Maybe I'm just not used it. The old skin wasn't as sleek but was easier on the eyes with regards to what I mentioned. So maybe it comes as no coincidence that I had a play through of my usual maps today with the new skin and am getting worse scores than I normally do. But I won't complain about the update, seeing as it seems to agree with most people, and hopefully I'll adapt to it in time. I just wish there was an option to revert to the old skin, though.

would be good if someone makes this skin customizable.
and the skin resembles of that in OSU! Stream app.

im not used to the "big" cursor. but overall, very nice skin.

Likes :
Almost everything

Dislikes :

Scrolling result screen . I just really got used to the old one and I like it more and the whole scrolling thing feels kinda weird .

>play song
>finsh song
>want to exit from result screen
>keeps on hitting replay every god damn time.
...

Overall the new skin is pretty cool, my only quibble is that the new spinner seems to overwrite older custom themed spinners

hiE wrote: 2c2r5n

would be good if someone makes this skin customizable.

This ^
Default skin looks pretty neat now. Smaller hitbursts, isn't that what people kept insisting on earlier? Why complaining then?
Good job with the new update!

rickyboi wrote: 1y361q

>play song
>finsh song
>want to exit from result screen
>keeps on hitting replay every god damn time.
...

^ Same here.
Anyway, i like the new skin, is pretty neat and clean =)

i am a wee bit annoyed and should have thought before posting.

Macacito wrote: 1b122r

i am a wee bit annoyed and should have thought before posting.

Not sure if trolling or retarded.

Probably retarded. Edit: Oh, its Macacito. Retarded for sure.

Anyway, while i have some (nazi) issues with the new skin, i love it. And its so much better than the old one! XD I will probably just adapt it to my own tastes (and add some cute-useless stuff to the fail/pause screen and such) than keep using a totally customed one

my above post was edited
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now i have half of my game in default skin and other half in stupid new default skin, for example: autopilot https://osu-ppy-sh.jeuxcrack.net/ss/661746
those 5 mode options https://osu-ppy-sh.jeuxcrack.net/ss/661757
these stupid new bottons where the cursor is https://osu-ppy-sh.jeuxcrack.net/ss/661758
this thing https://osu-ppy-sh.jeuxcrack.net/ss/661760
look at the clock next to the accuracy, there's a white point right on the middle of it wtf https://osu-ppy-sh.jeuxcrack.net/ss/661794

Thats because old default skin didnt have those elements, you derp. Auto pilot icon wasn't on Template skin. You can make them yourself if it botters you so much

Love the new skin... it will leave a way better impact on new people trying the game.

Everything just seems more crisp than the old skin.

I dont know quite to say about the new spinners, but I managed a constant 430, which I believe is because it is easier to keep track of the new cursor. I guess it looks cool.

Bittersweet wrote: 4k72g

Thats because old default skin didnt have those elements, you derp. Auto pilot icon wasn't on Template skin. You can make them yourself if it botters you so much

i only have paint

*^* the new skin is... EPIC!! thank you!!!

White reverse arrows on white sliders - great idea. "Try to guess when need to repeat". Hooray new skin, I will miss 70% often.

Well, just a list of stuff I find weird or improvable or whatever. Some are probably feature request in nature, while others are bugs or just changes, so I'm posting it here for now. If you have a nice place to post everything, then direct me there \o\

1. S and SS looks way too similar. At first I thought you removed the SS rank and replaced it with orange/red S and gold S
2. I'd rather have the mode selection button at the far-right than far-left, as the mods button is heavily used by many, and you're probably used to hitting the far-left button already. Well, it's not a big deal, but prevents a lot of random misclicks.
3. Speaking of the Mode selection button; why is only the icon for osu!standard tilted? It looks really weird with everythng else, and considering how hitcircles are, well, not tilted in-game, I it shouldn't be tilted. Just a small annoyance.
4. The mode selection button is a bit bigger than the others as well, which honestly doesn't look as neat.
5. The new hitbursts look awesome, but the font looks a bit too.. uuuh... sharp or something. A font similar to the score letters would look better imo.
6. Hitburst colors need to be more distinguishable, as you'll look at the colors rather than the numbers to determine your accuracy.
7. Falling miss indicators are fairly annoying. They're the only hitbursts with a falling animation. Having lots of misses results in lots of these crosses falling down, which makes the screen more clustered than they should. For example, you miss a note above the note you're supposed to hit next. The X from above falls down, and it obstructs the view as well as looking like you mishit something here as well. Animation like this in general makes reading harder as well.
8. The spinner is just weird, and it doesn't tell you anything; neither how much time there is left to spin nor how much you've spun/how far you're from completing the spinner. The spinner also looks a bit out of place compared to the rest of the skin imo.
9. Slidertick behaviour should be changed, as slider velocity changes are much harder to read now. It doesn't make sense that the tick should appear as if they were approach circles expanding (I think this is what you're trying to do?). By this logic, the slider shouldn't even show it's whole path before you hit the slider.
10. Since you're revamping the whole skin, why is the sliderball still a beach ball
11. Might want to make the cursor easier to see.
12. http://puu.sh/2kudW <-- This looks extremely weird, as the repeat arrow should be a part of the slider-tail here, but it's not overlapped by the slider-head.
13. You should be able to change the ranking screen by flicking, and have the screens snap into place. I'm not going to ever want to look at half of the results screen and half of the ranking screen, ever
14. The space where the back button were previously is super annoying
15. Mod selections should light up a bit more. You can see that a mod is selected because it's tilted, but if you're only going to glance at it, it's hard to notice.
16. Mods selected shouldn't carry over from one mode to another, imo.
17. Did you make the ranking graphic smaller? http://osu-ppy-sh.jeuxcrack.net/ss/661820
18. Some more coloring on the /fail images would be nice
19. Oh yeah, why does the back/skip buttons and the pause menu buttons have japanese on them? You did remove them from the main menu, soo yeah.
20. http://osu-ppy-sh.jeuxcrack.net/ss/661841 eeh, I think skin preview is showing the wrong health bar.
21. Right clicking a map, or profile brings up this menu that should have the same style of font as the main menu; thinner.
22. Fairly sure the "Most Played" button isn't showing the right maps in osu!direct.
23. Another thing about the rankings: http://osu-ppy-sh.jeuxcrack.net/ss/662026 When you scroll all the way to the bottom, the toggles for replay saving and favorite adding is partly covered. The screen really shouldn't scroll down that much (and I imagine you'd be able to move those star rating icons a bit up)

Eh, I'll seeif I /notice anything else. This will do for now

Well... Will start using custom skins.
Been playing osu since beta... For a first time, right after this update, can feel my eyes hurting, literally.
Especially the new spinner part. On my eyes it works similar to watching bycicles wheel. After a certain speed i can no longer see witch way its spinning and it gets rly disorientating.

AWESOME spinner.
Also, nice scroll at the results screen! o.o
The lack of circle ghosts is still making me think it looks empty, but it's definitely better for more busy maps!
Also, the super pretty ripple effect (lighting) is broken .-. Even if that was intended, it just staying there is annoying... .-.

But it's still a GREAT skin!

Exerion wrote: 3a2mo

White reverse arrows on white sliders - great idea. "Try to guess when need to repeat". Hooray new skin, I will miss 70% often.

They will turn black after a certain colour threshold.

Based on , I do plan on changing the spinner to be less distracting.

peppy wrote: 6w4l42

Based on , I do plan on changing the spinner to be less distracting.

will you still release the skin elements for the current spinner?
or only for the next one?

CXu wrote: 1u4829

[*] http://puu.sh/2kudW <-- This looks extremely weird, as the repeat arrow should be a part of the slider-tail here, but it's not overlapped by the slider-head.

It was always like that xD

peppy wrote: 6w4l42

Based on , I do plan on changing the spinner to be less distracting.

Any way to the spinner elements or something before it's all gone..? .-.

First I was went "Nice!", then I saw the spinner and went "NICE!!!"

After playing for an hour or so, i think the miss would be better if it starts to fade at same time it starts to fall. BUT as i cant test it, i dont know, i may be wrong xD

MAN!!!! THIS WAS AWESOME!!! THANK YOU!!

Bittersweet wrote: 4k72g

CXu wrote: 1u4829

[*] http://puu.sh/2kudW <-- This looks extremely weird, as the repeat arrow should be a part of the slider-tail here, but it's not overlapped by the slider-head.

It was always like that xD

Huh wait really? I never noticed until the recent changes

They will turn black after a certain colour threshold.

Can you change the threshold because on some sliders the arrow remains withe but is hardly seable like these :


This one I failed while playing because I didn't saw the reverse arrow :\

^ THIS
Threshold really need to be tuned more thoroughly.

It's cool to of had a new update this different but I really don't like it.
As I first looked at the menu I was thinking 'Where has everything gone?!?!?'
Is there a way to switch back to the old style because I really can't play it this way it's just rather annoying...
I'm sorry that was a really long and annoying rant but I wanted to know;
How do I get back the old skin and style?

pretty sure you can't ;w;
and even if you did rollback, osu! would just update to the new version again anyway. this new layout might seem a bit strange, but it can help when you get used to it

iamazoroark wrote: 2l201o

How do I get back the old skin and style?

What prevents you from using the old templateskin as a skin?
Now it can not be ed through osume, but people in any way have it. In the theme of skinning on the forum, for example.

You can use it, but it will be missing some elements, and others are not skinnable (as main-menu tabs, for example)

deadbeat wrote: 819

pretty sure you can't ;w;
and even if you did rollback, osu! would just update to the new version again anyway. this new layout might seem a bit strange, but it can help when you get used to it

+1; when I was trying it out on test build, I beat most, if not all of my high scores, and could play easier :p Your experience may vary of course depending on what skin you were using previously.

Has anyone else noticed that "old" spinner skins (even the original old one) aren't dimmed when you use them, which doesn't make them look very good, since the spinner background picture is limited in a squarish area in the center. Anyone else have this problem?

deadbeat wrote: 819

rakiru wrote: 1g1b20

Is it possible to get the old skin back? I really don't like the new spinner (it's hard to tell how much you've got left to do), and I'd like the option to use the old circles and stuff too.

the old default skin is floating around the forum's
try here https://osu-ppy-sh.jeuxcrack.net/forum/t/51694

New spinnerrr ^______^
New skin amazing , but i cant find SS rank maps

Awesome stuff! Though I would like to say that I dislike some of the new elements, I'm conscious of the fact that we're resistant to change, so I'll probably grow into it.

The spinner was totally messed up on my side, though. It doesn't stretch to the full height of my monitor (1280x1024) - there is a line of spare pixels on either side, and a lot of space on the top and bottom which is the song background darkened. Perhaps this was intentional, though, for widescreen s.

The Muffin Man wrote: 5x2e33

Awesome stuff! Though I would like to say that I dislike some of the new elements, I'm conscious of the fact that we're resistant to change, so I'll probably grow into it.

you sir, have my respect.

It'll take some getting used to, but I guess it's needed because innovation is key.

Q: How do we rate beatmaps now?

vizzy wrote: 342o5o

It'll take some getting used to, but I guess it's needed because innovation is key.

Q: How do we rate beatmaps now?

it's below the ranking now. you need to click and drag the screen and the online information is at the bottom

i wish i had a video about all the new changes right now >_>

Nice update! But I just deleted my skin's spinner elements to have this new cool spinner, and for some reason, instead of the new spinner, the old one appears... What to do?

Edit: Nevermind, I found out :3

vizzy wrote: 342o5o

It'll take some getting used to, but I guess it's needed because innovation is key.

Q: How do we rate beatmaps now?

scroll down:

Thanks. Got it!

I do not like this skin, it makes it unreadable Beatmap with some spins (blue spin ). Transparency and a Windows 8 style that I do not approve. Sorry I prefer the old skin.
If you can return to the ergonomics of the former, I am satisfied.

OH MY GOD THE REVERSE ARROW ON SLIDERS TURNS BLACK IF THE HITCIRCLES ARE WHITE, IT'S MAGIC!!!11!!1!ONEONE

Lovin' the new skin. The moving followpoints are a bit distracting IMO, but I just probably have to get used to it

even if i can imagine, that there was a lot of work involved with this update, i really don't like the new skin. It is to bright for my eyes and the new spinner is too confusing. Well that wouldn't be a too big problem, because i could still use the skin, i normally use. But since the ranking screen changed, the screen is now totally messed up...

Here a screen:


My suggestion would be, that there is an option for old skins, that will change the ranking screen design to the old one.
Also, i don't like the fact, that you need to scroll now, to see, if you improved in the map. Thats something, i want to see right away. I dont know, why that was changed. Was it really that inconvenient to press the mouse button 2 times, even though you click much more often during the game?

Hello.

As you all know, I am a taiko player. I have noticed something that deeply concerns me in the gameplay of taiko, as it has been changed in this update.

When you miss a note, the miss bubble falls down and obscures the notes. This is a problem for all players, as it is a distraction of the notes and thus covers up parts when you play.

For Example (these may not be the best as they are screenshots)

It affects any time the map has any kind of stream, or a flow of constant notes.

I encourage you to change it back, not because "omg I hate change" but because it actually affects how the game is played and makes it an unneeded distraction.

Beuchi wrote: t3r41

OH MY GOD THE REVERSE ARROW ON SLIDERS TURNS BLACK IF THE HITCIRCLES ARE WHITE, IT'S MAGIC!!!11!!1!ONEONE

Lovin' the new skin. The moving followpoints are a bit distracting IMO, but I just probably have to get used to it

still somewhat buggy t/123382

TMoD wrote: 1f373

even if i can imagine, that there was a lot of work involved with this update, i really don't like the new skin. It is to bright for my eyes and the new spinner is too confusing. Well that wouldn't be a too big problem, because i could still use the skin, i normally use. But since the ranking screen changed, the screen is now totally messed up...

Here a screen:


My suggestion would be, that there is an option for old skins, that will change the ranking screen design to the old one.
Also, i don't like the fact, that you need to scroll now, to see, if you improved in the map. Thats something, i want to see right away. I dont know, why that was changed. Was it really that inconvenient to press the mouse button 2 times, even though you click much more often during the game?

You'll have to skin around that for now, and about the "option for old skins": p/2185835

Hi, I changed my frame limiter to unlimited and this has caused me to be unable to see the game even though I can interact with it. Please help.

Backfire wrote: 5y252a

Hello.

As you all know, I am a taiko player. I have noticed something that deeply concerns me in the gameplay of taiko, as it has been changed in this update.

When you miss a note, the miss bubble falls down and obscures the notes. This is a problem for all players, as it is a distraction of the notes and thus covers up parts when you play.

For Example (these may not be the best as they are screenshots)

SPOILER

It affects any time the map has any kind of stream, or a flow of constant notes.

I encourage you to change it back, not because "omg I hate change" but because it actually affects how the game is played and makes it an unneeded distraction.

already reported t/123349
post in that topic

jyknight wrote: 454v54

Hi, I changed my frame limiter to unlimited and this has caused me to be unable to see the game even though I can interact with it. Please help.

something like this maybe: t/119926 but it might happen a lot more since this update.

nice skin

@theowest None of those, but nevermind. I managed to fix it though constant clicking to find the frame limiter. Thanks for the help though.

Wow, this looks amazing! Great job.

theowest wrote: tpu

You'll have to skin around that for now, and about the "option for old skins": p/2185835

I think, you meant the "Prefer new Default when skin not available" option with the Link? Well, it was turned off, so it doesn't change anything. Even tried to turn it on, but that just resulted in other bugs
Also i dont have a clue about making/changing skins

Dont like the new style at all, want the old back or at least an option to change it for yourself

Yay, such a nice update c:!

Souar wrote: 121q4e

Dont like the new style at all, want the old back or at least an option to change it for yourself

Better get used to it.
Germans are so picky.

you cant even tell if youre playing well with the new skin because theres not the color like befor that signals you when you fail doing a 300. you have to look up on your accuracy what really sux i think. also the circles are not as visable as they where before. i always loose the focus on the mouse in spinners.

ppy already said that spinner will be changed. Soon the sprites will be released so you can recolor the hitbusts for whatever you want (or find a friend to do if you cant). Circles are more visible and clean, what are you talking about xD IF you really hate it and cant play at all with it because whatever reason, you can always use template skin or any other

Great modernizing update for osu! in my opinion. There will be haters but then again you cannot satisfy everyone.

heyheyheyheyheyheyeheyeheey
make the slider ball the same-ish sort of color as the combo color it's on
boom

Cobra wrote: 1u2s6w

heyheyheyheyheyheyeheyeheey
make the slider ball the same-ish sort of color as the combo color it's on
boom

or its complementary/inverted colour. that would be pretty amazing. Like how the repeat arrow gets black when it's a whiter combo colour and vice versa.

Actually would be nice if the reverse arrow would be the negative value of the combo color of the slider, while the slider ball would use the combo color of the slider.

I absolutely love it! <3

Great work guys!

Stop complaining about the new skin, its amazing!!!

Also there are some things i propose:
1.An option to use old animations (lighting is too little, ticks are slow,old 300 are not so smooth...) (maybe in skin.ini?)
2.An option to return to old cursortrail logistics (this skin is now broken ;.; https://osu-ppy-sh.jeuxcrack.net/forum/t/98455 )

This is definitly a step foward for skinners and a memorable day in osu! but look at the past and all those skins that now can´t be enjoyed as well as before...
(im also still waiting for an option to use 4:3 backgrounds on widescreen resolutions, the image quality is incredibly better).

I agree with everyone that it looks so clean especially the main menu! ^.^