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Taking into the full reading of the OP, AND the first page of the manga, would you read the OT! manga? (Your vote matters) 1g6n1a
Total votes: 31
Very nice concept. A CGDCT with topics revolving around "off-topic" stuff. (Banger first )
Decent artstyle
Just some nitpicks...
Decent artstyle
Just some nitpicks...
- It would be cool if there was an extra page (right after the cover page) on who those characters are/based on because I had no idea it was actually portraying real people. It would give context to new readers.
- I'm hoping the comedy later on will have a little more "oompf" to it. The punchline at the end felt a bit awkward to end the chapter there.
The second chapter of the OT! Manga Adaptation is out. Let me know your thoughts! 
Link <===============
If you found chapter 2 very schizophrenic, I'm not sorry. That was the intention.
Did you like it? What did you think of chapter 2 in relation to chapter 1? I didn't know if my way of making the shadow on the characters' necks was good, so I decided to remove it and get your on what is better.
Behrauder wrote: 3k4k5m
⚠ IMPORTANT THINGS, read carefully: ⚠
To see the manga, access it on a computer (not a cell phone), and set the zoom to 100% (it is not 100% by default). You should take these preventive measures to avoid the moire effect.
If you don't know what the moire effect is, it's when there is a strange unwanted pattern due to something to do with pixel overlap or something like that (which makes several manga look strange at some zooms other than 100%), but it is better explained here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moir%C3%A9_pattern
The manga reading order is from right to left, and top to bottom.
Link <===============
If you found chapter 2 very schizophrenic, I'm not sorry. That was the intention.
Did you like it? What did you think of chapter 2 in relation to chapter 1? I didn't know if my way of making the shadow on the characters' necks was good, so I decided to remove it and get your on what is better.
ONLY CLICK HERE IF YOU HAVE ALREADY READ CHAPTER 2:
If you didn't understand what happened, basically EVERYTHING was Serraionga's dream. Except the last three drawings, obviously.
Why is Marco the person with Abraker in the final illustration, and not Samet? Because Marco is cuter and is wearing Miku's clothes.
Why is Abraker bald? Because it's funny and easier to draw.
Besides, did you pay attention to the license plate?
Why is Marco the person with Abraker in the final illustration, and not Samet? Because Marco is cuter and is wearing Miku's clothes.
Why is Abraker bald? Because it's funny and easier to draw.
Besides, did you pay attention to the license plate?
I expected to see the plate give an explanation as to why abraker is bald. And he totally should've been a teacher instead.Behrauder wrote: 3k4k5m
Besides, did you pay attention to the license plate?
Also repeating myself from the other thread in case you haven't seen it.
You should switch to 4koma sometimes to regain motivation. It's easy to make, which results in more posts in between normal chapter releases. You also immediately see the results of your work without serious time commitment. Win-win.
i... actually really liked this chapter, it felt a little more interesting, although i don't know how to articulate why yet
it was easy enough to understand, or rather it seemed easy enough for me to believe i understood the course of events, it actually seems kind of linear to me with the exception of it revealing that those sequences are nested within one another, with maybe one point that seemed ambiguous until i read the note at the end (after i initially posted this)
ah the art, i forgot, i don't have many personally notable thoughts on it but i'd be a bit surprised if it happened to be fully and originally 2d. it seems like they were somehow made by arranging 3d models or 3d backgrounds, then drawn over with line tools in some way, and the ability to remain on-model with those designs is sort of impressive to me if that wasn't the case
either way, i find it vaguely charming even if not a style i would typically prefer :>
it was easy enough to understand, or rather it seemed easy enough for me to believe i understood the course of events, it actually seems kind of linear to me with the exception of it revealing that those sequences are nested within one another, with maybe one point that seemed ambiguous until i read the note at the end (after i initially posted this)
ah the art, i forgot, i don't have many personally notable thoughts on it but i'd be a bit surprised if it happened to be fully and originally 2d. it seems like they were somehow made by arranging 3d models or 3d backgrounds, then drawn over with line tools in some way, and the ability to remain on-model with those designs is sort of impressive to me if that wasn't the case
either way, i find it vaguely charming even if not a style i would typically prefer :>
BRO HOW DO YOU KNOW I WAS READING LYRICS WHILE LISTENING TO THIS AND ALSO READ THIS MANGA, ARE YOU A STALKER ?????!!!Patatitta wrote: 5t25
i'm surprised you can listen to music with lyrics while reading, that's not a skill I havereffty_gag wrote: o4w2f
read this manga while listening to "the low end theory" album kinda fire
what? no? I think you misunderstood itreffty_gag wrote: o4w2f
BRO HOW DO YOU KNOW I WAS READING LYRICS WHILE LISTENING TO THIS AND ALSO READ THIS MANGA, ARE YOU A STALKER ?????!!!Patatitta wrote: 5t25
i'm surprised you can listen to music with lyrics while reading, that's not a skill I havereffty_gag wrote: o4w2f
read this manga while listening to "the low end theory" album kinda fire
you say you listened to that album while reading
That album has lyrics
I was like "damn impressive you can listen to music with lyrics while reading"
I did not realize you were actively seraching the lyrics on google in the middle of reading the manga chapter
I'm glad you guys liked it!
I'm going to share the creation process, since you all seem curious, and I think it's interesting:
The first step is the draft:
After that... it's quite intuitive:
I reproduce the draft scenes in Koikatsu, take a screenshot, and the rest is even more intuitive. Once everything is done, I just review everything and copy it into Canva.
Making eight pages of this a month is actually... much, much more tiring and time-consuming than it seems, but the effort is definitely worth it!
I'm going to start college in March, and I have no idea how difficult college is, so my biggest fear is having to stop making the manga for a long time.
I'm going to share the creation process, since you all seem curious, and I think it's interesting:
Basically, the tools that make the OT! Manga possible are four:
1. [AN ANIME 3D PROGRAM] (with many plugins): To make the characters with very high customization and place them on the map I want, in the pose I want, with the expression I want. As I don't have some plugins that I was too lazy to install, I still have to draw some of the expressions manually.
2. Clip Studio Paint: Basically, I use Clip Studio Paint to create the manga the way you all are familiar with. Previously, I had tried with Photoshop, but it simply wasn't suitable for that, and I quickly gave up on the idea.
3. Canva: To post the manga. Canva is the only place I've found that is consistent across different screens. If everyone reads the manga on a computer at 100% zoom (which is not the default), the moire effect can be avoided. Posting the manga directly on the osu! forum would be quite problematic.
4. The tablet I used to play osu!: Self-explanatory.
I also use other tools like grammar checkers, but I can't say that they "make the manga possible".
1. [AN ANIME 3D PROGRAM] (with many plugins): To make the characters with very high customization and place them on the map I want, in the pose I want, with the expression I want. As I don't have some plugins that I was too lazy to install, I still have to draw some of the expressions manually.
2. Clip Studio Paint: Basically, I use Clip Studio Paint to create the manga the way you all are familiar with. Previously, I had tried with Photoshop, but it simply wasn't suitable for that, and I quickly gave up on the idea.
3. Canva: To post the manga. Canva is the only place I've found that is consistent across different screens. If everyone reads the manga on a computer at 100% zoom (which is not the default), the moire effect can be avoided. Posting the manga directly on the osu! forum would be quite problematic.
4. The tablet I used to play osu!: Self-explanatory.
I also use other tools like grammar checkers, but I can't say that they "make the manga possible".
After that... it's quite intuitive:
I reproduce the draft scenes in Koikatsu, take a screenshot, and the rest is even more intuitive. Once everything is done, I just review everything and copy it into Canva.
Making eight pages of this a month is actually... much, much more tiring and time-consuming than it seems, but the effort is definitely worth it!
I'm going to start college in March, and I have no idea how difficult college is, so my biggest fear is having to stop making the manga for a long time.
I thought about doing this after the third chapter. It's quite likely.Kobold84 wrote: 4c5ma
You should switch to 4koma sometimes to regain motivation. It's easy to make, which results in more posts in between normal chapter releases. You also immediately see the results of your work without serious time commitment. Win-win.
oh sorryPatatitta wrote: 5t25
what? no? I think you misunderstood itreffty_gag wrote: o4w2f
BRO HOW DO YOU KNOW I WAS READING LYRICS WHILE LISTENING TO THIS AND ALSO READ THIS MANGA, ARE YOU A STALKER ?????!!!Patatitta wrote: 5t25
i'm surprised you can listen to music with lyrics while reading, that's not a skill I havereffty_gag wrote: o4w2f
read this manga while listening to "the low end theory" album kinda fire
you say you listened to that album while reading
That album has lyrics
I was like "damn impressive you can listen to music with lyrics while reading"
I did not realize you were actively seraching the lyrics on google in the middle of reading the manga chapter
Chapter 2: community/forums/topics/1998785?n=54
Creation process: community/forums/topics/1998785?n=70
Creation process: community/forums/topics/1998785?n=70
I read thread instead of threat, lol.Corne2Plum3 wrote: 3y1z1p
The threat is gone alreadysametdze wrote: 1l1a4s
you have nobody to blame but me if this ends up going south
by the time i wake up tomorrow i'm more than sure corne would've deleted everything, so you've got nothing to worry about
Behrauder wrote: 3k4k5m
Let's try not to derail the thread, please.
It's art.Behrauder wrote: 3k4k5m
I read both back to back again today and didn't notice it at all.Behrauder wrote: 3k4k5m
I didn't know if my way of making the shadow on the characters' necks was good, so I decided to remove it and get your on what is better.
time:
The chapter itself was all right on the weirdness scale, I didn't get the ending until I read through your explanation, and that's mostly on how fast you transition between scenes and frames. You put in too much information in frames, so there are issues with pacing. You can fit a lot more than simple dialogues within a single frame: some hesitation, reaction and a lot more to have it more presentable and, I guess, personal to the reader?
And you absolutely should use visual space (as shown in my example below) to make the reader read at the exact pace you want him to read to deliver the moment just so it feels more "right". This way conversations flow more naturally.
Well, you do use these and other techniques sometimes, so my advice is to use it more often.
Interesting, I hadn't thought of that. I guess I'm not very good with these things. The first time I read a manga was about 4 days before I started creating chapter 1, just to get an idea of how to do it. In fact, I only read a few random chapters of about 10 random mangas, lol.Kobold84 wrote: 4c5ma
It's art.Behrauder wrote: 3k4k5m
I read both back to back again today and didn't notice it at all.Behrauder wrote: 3k4k5m
I didn't know if my way of making the shadow on the characters' necks was good, so I decided to remove it and get your on what is better.
time:
The chapter itself was all right on the weirdness scale, I didn't get the ending until I read through your explanation, and that's mostly on how fast you transition between scenes and frames. You put in too much information in frames, so there are issues with pacing. You can fit a lot more than simple dialogues within a single frame: some hesitation, reaction and a lot more to have it more presentable and, I guess, personal to the reader?
And you absolutely should use visual space (as shown in my example below) to make the reader read at the exact pace you want him to read to deliver the moment just so it feels more "right". This way conversations flow more naturally.
Well, you do use these and other techniques sometimes, so my advice is to use it more often.
I will try to implement this.
Oh, and the quality is only like that because you had to zoom out to take a screenshot of everything, right?
Hire me as an editor to find out more tips and tricks.Behrauder wrote: 3k4k5m
Interesting, I hadn't thought of that. I guess I'm not very good with these things. The first time I read a manga was about 4 days before I started creating chapter 1, just to get an idea of how to do it. In fact, I only read a few random chapters of about 10 random mangas, lol.
I will try to implement this.
Yep.Behrauder wrote: 3k4k5m
Oh, and the quality is only like that because you had to zoom out to take a screenshot of everything, right?
How would I do that? It's 8 pages per chapter (plus an extra)... I don't do this 24 hours a day (at most, 12 when time is running out, lol).Corne2Plum3 wrote: 3y1z1p
Wasn't it 1 chapter per week at the beginning?Kobold84 wrote: 4c5ma
What for? Spare the poor Behrauder, it's been less than two weeks.Corne2Plum3 wrote: 3y1z1p
bump
I'll release the third chapter in a few minutes.
The third chapter of the OT! Manga Adaptation is out. Let me know your thoughts!
Link <===============
Did you like it? I’m thinking of creating an anonymous Google poll so people can give without any hesitation.
Behrauder wrote: 3k4k5m
⚠ IMPORTANT THINGS, read carefully: ⚠
To see the manga, access it on a computer (not a cell phone), and set the zoom to 100% (it is not 100% by default). You should take these preventive measures to avoid the moire effect.
If you don't know what the moire effect is, it's when there is a strange unwanted pattern due to something to do with pixel overlap or something like that (which makes several manga look strange at some zooms other than 100%), but it is better explained here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moir%C3%A9_pattern
The manga reading order is from right to left, and top to bottom.
Link <===============
Did you like it? I’m thinking of creating an anonymous Google poll so people can give without any hesitation.
ONLY CLICK HERE IF YOU HAVE ALREADY READ CHAPTER 3:
My main challenge in this chapter was trying to make Scyla unfunny, but in a funny way.
There's a skull on Scyla's head to represent death/bad things (locked threads, shitposts, etc.).
Scyla is wearing pajamas and a magical girl bow because this is something I could definitely imagine Scyla wearing in real life, lol.
My main challenge in this chapter was trying to make Scyla unfunny, but in a funny way.
There's a skull on Scyla's head to represent death/bad things (locked threads, shitposts, etc.).
Thank you! It was all thanks to your here: community/forums/topics/1998785?n=84Kobold84 wrote: 4c5ma
Nice, I can clearly see the improvement over the last chapters. Has it already been a month?
Would there be a storyline?
Also, two sighs sighted.
Since it's a CGDCT, I wasn't planning on having a storyline. Do you think I should?
Thanks, I guess...Reyalp51 wrote: 3o2r5d
i lost braincells
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If I start a new chapter now (and I will), I'll definitely only finish it after university has already started, and I've never been to university before, so I don't know how difficult it will be or how much dedication is needed at the beginning. In this chapter, and especially in the next ones, expect releases to take much longer than a month. By the way, my course is Information Systems.
I'm assuming he also didn't really get the criteria for CGDCT.Patatitta wrote: 5t25
oh yeah lol it is in the op then it is actually a mistake or there was a change of plans somewhereYmir wrote: 2z2l6t
I'm not refuting because I don't watch that genre
@Behrauder do something
That or he's just trying stuff out, perhaps introducing a cast (?), before he gets on to the main story. It's only been 3 chapters after all.
Single chapter stories would work well. Both chapters 2 and 3 had the right idea to tie everything with the ending, but there's still not enough substance to plot itself.Behrauder wrote: 3k4k5m
Thank you! It was all thanks to your here: community/forums/topics/1998785?n=84Kobold84 wrote: 4c5ma
Nice, I can clearly see the improvement over the last chapters. Has it already been a month?
Would there be a storyline?
Also, two sighs sighted.
Since it's a CGDCT, I wasn't planning on having a storyline. Do you think I should?
Think of it like this way, since most of the interaction and storytelling happens in dialogues, the dialogues ARE the story. Meaning exposition has to be done there, everything they say has to be said for a reason.
For example, there are two character exposition points. Scyla says she's a large chest enjoyer and has a dream of amassing a harem. Both points go nowhere in the plot. You could have Scyla start his harem adventure by trying to impress Marco due to her having a rather large asset, and then her and samet exploit this by saying Class A is full of cuties. But seeing the principal, Scyla instead becomes her #1 fan and drops the harem idea completely.
Something like that.
Interesting, I had thought about doing something like this but ended up not thinking any further about the idea.Kobold84 wrote: 4c5ma
Single chapter stories would work well. Both chapters 2 and 3 had the right idea to tie everything with the ending, but there's still not enough substance to plot itself.Behrauder wrote: 3k4k5m
Thank you! It was all thanks to your here: community/forums/topics/1998785?n=84Kobold84 wrote: 4c5ma
Nice, I can clearly see the improvement over the last chapters. Has it already been a month?
Would there be a storyline?
Also, two sighs sighted.
Since it's a CGDCT, I wasn't planning on having a storyline. Do you think I should?
Think of it like this way, since most of the interaction and storytelling happens in dialogues, the dialogues ARE the story. Meaning exposition has to be done there, everything they say has to be said for a reason.
For example, there are two character exposition points. Scyla says she's a large chest enjoyer and has a dream of amassing a harem. Both points go nowhere in the plot. You could have Scyla start his harem adventure by trying to impress Marco due to her having a rather large asset, and then her and samet exploit this by saying Class A is full of cuties. But seeing the principal, Scyla instead becomes her #1 fan and drops the harem idea completely.
Something like that.
I've watched some CGDCTs, and I think it fits the genre (there are similar animes marked as CGDCT on MyAnimeList). Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so. But yes, the main focus is comedy.Patatitta wrote: 5t25
oh yeah lol it is in the op then it is actually a mistake or there was a change of plans somewhereYmir wrote: 2z2l6t
I'm not refuting because I don't watch that genre
@Behrauder do something
I'm sure you're wrongBehrauder wrote: 3k4k5m
Interesting, I had thought about doing something like this but ended up not thinking any further about the idea.Kobold84 wrote: 4c5ma
Single chapter stories would work well. Both chapters 2 and 3 had the right idea to tie everything with the ending, but there's still not enough substance to plot itself.Behrauder wrote: 3k4k5m
Thank you! It was all thanks to your here: community/forums/topics/1998785?n=84Kobold84 wrote: 4c5ma
Nice, I can clearly see the improvement over the last chapters. Has it already been a month?
Would there be a storyline?
Also, two sighs sighted.
Since it's a CGDCT, I wasn't planning on having a storyline. Do you think I should?
Think of it like this way, since most of the interaction and storytelling happens in dialogues, the dialogues ARE the story. Meaning exposition has to be done there, everything they say has to be said for a reason.
For example, there are two character exposition points. Scyla says she's a large chest enjoyer and has a dream of amassing a harem. Both points go nowhere in the plot. You could have Scyla start his harem adventure by trying to impress Marco due to her having a rather large asset, and then her and samet exploit this by saying Class A is full of cuties. But seeing the principal, Scyla instead becomes her #1 fan and drops the harem idea completely.
Something like that.
I've watched some CGDCTs, and I think it fits the genre (there are similar animes marked as CGDCT on MyAnimeList). Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so. But yes, the main focus is comedy.Patatitta wrote: 5t25
oh yeah lol it is in the op then it is actually a mistake or there was a change of plans somewhereYmir wrote: 2z2l6t
I'm not refuting because I don't watch that genre
@Behrauder do something
looking at MAL it's true that there are anime tagged as CGDCT that I would not consider CGDCT at all
Ok, I think I'll need to change the OP then.Patatitta wrote: 5t25
I'm sure you're wrongBehrauder wrote: 3k4k5m
Interesting, I had thought about doing something like this but ended up not thinking any further about the idea.Kobold84 wrote: 4c5ma
Single chapter stories would work well. Both chapters 2 and 3 had the right idea to tie everything with the ending, but there's still not enough substance to plot itself.Behrauder wrote: 3k4k5m
Thank you! It was all thanks to your here: community/forums/topics/1998785?n=84Kobold84 wrote: 4c5ma
Nice, I can clearly see the improvement over the last chapters. Has it already been a month?
Would there be a storyline?
Also, two sighs sighted.
Since it's a CGDCT, I wasn't planning on having a storyline. Do you think I should?
Think of it like this way, since most of the interaction and storytelling happens in dialogues, the dialogues ARE the story. Meaning exposition has to be done there, everything they say has to be said for a reason.
For example, there are two character exposition points. Scyla says she's a large chest enjoyer and has a dream of amassing a harem. Both points go nowhere in the plot. You could have Scyla start his harem adventure by trying to impress Marco due to her having a rather large asset, and then her and samet exploit this by saying Class A is full of cuties. But seeing the principal, Scyla instead becomes her #1 fan and drops the harem idea completely.
Something like that.
I've watched some CGDCTs, and I think it fits the genre (there are similar animes marked as CGDCT on MyAnimeList). Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so. But yes, the main focus is comedy.Patatitta wrote: 5t25
oh yeah lol it is in the op then it is actually a mistake or there was a change of plans somewhereYmir wrote: 2z2l6t
I'm not refuting because I don't watch that genre
@Behrauder do something
i would probably guess neither, in a sense... i do think you could argue for either, more likely the former, but i say "neither" because "personal take" seems like a very imprecise picture with some omissions of contexts that i imagine could justify how that definition of cgdct is being usedYmir wrote: 2z2l6t
Where exactly is it stated that the girls must focus on a specific niche? Is it just a personal take or something generally agreed upon?
i think this is more a description of general observations in things qualified as cgdct, things that Happen To Define the media described by the genre rather than a commonly recognized necessity
to use something i imagine could be analogous, it might be a bit like how little features of linguistics could be defined within examples that colloquially mean something very loose and simple without necessarily being a complex deliberate Categorization (as in, using specific words that just happen to have a certain social or functional connotation, without trying/intending to identify the subjects/targets of those words as necessarily containing those connotations), except the ways in which those words or phrases are used would correlate with those categorized attributes and functions and effects, so if someone didnt catch onto how "normal" something is to say (as well as why that's "normal") and took something literally in a particular way, you might get a soecific definition of what something does that isn't really necessarily the stated or deliberate intent in saying it
...why am i abstracting this so much? it just doesnt feel direct... but i dont how to make what im thinking/meaning/saying into something more practical and concise;;
what i mean is, this is kind of like a wikipedia article on a thing that might define it by specific attributes, but people colloquially call a slice-of-life adjacent anime (with very similar casual comedic plots and personalities) without those core subjects of interest "cgdct" like how they might label a song's genre as "breakcore" instead of noting the attributes that might make it more historically similar to "jungle"
unsure if my suspicions are correct or applicable here, its more of something i would have intuited without really knowing what the definitive boundaries and qualities of cgdct are for myself, thats up to pata to answer i suppose
