if I load up a youtube tutorial on how to do a specific thing with a specific synth and then use that specific thing in my music, would you consider that to be or to not be original

you can shoot for originality all you want but the vast majority of us will never truly hit it. imo art that's compelling is more important and more directly impactful than art that's truly original. schoenberg could be a good example of art that's truly original, but not all that compelling, at least not to the average person.

sewerslvt does not belong in a discussion about originality when her music is boilerplate atmo dnb revivalism, the badly distorted pads covering up her complete inability to chop up drum loops. google "free amen breaks," the rhythm labs ultimate pack and you will find that she's used several of these loops, as is. countless artists have used them. I've used them. osu's featured artists have used them lol.

100th post

Dementedjet wrote: 513e4t

sametdze wrote: 1l1a4s

among the s i like, dementedjet is also there. idk he's always just seemed like a chubby kind friend, yk?

Sametdze - probably the closest one of all to me, mentally

how am i close to you mentally? i don't understand. yeah no, understand.

One of my old friend use to make music out of frog moaning noises

frogs can do that?

I mean... if you want music advice, you can always DM me. I've been doing it since 1998 or so.

Karmine wrote: 6c5h1b

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

Karmine wrote: 6c5h1b

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

Karmine wrote: 6c5h1b

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

Istg karmine was so much freakier when he first started but he suddenly went “oh shit I’m supposed to be an adult” and changed

I just got old I guess, also I mostly lurk don't post a lot.
I still say random shit sometimes though.

the good o days where you had gay roleplay with Calvin

All the horny roleplayers are gone though.

The greatest wisdoms are often ed down and taught

Nah I'm glad rp is dead tbh.
Especially when you consider that at the time I was like 22-23 while the others were probably 19 at most which is already kinda weird, now I'm 26 I definitely wouldn't do it with the mostly <18 who are here.
Also the horny is mostly kept to discord now, which is better for everyone.

holy shit 26

Dementedjet wrote: 513e4t

sametdze wrote: 1l1a4s

among the s i like, dementedjet is also there. idk he's always just seemed like a chubby kind friend, yk?

I'm actually underweight, so def not chubby

Time to fire off some opinions, everybody not included is probably neutral

Sametdze - probably the closest one of all to me, mentally

Farfocele - ++rep, has the most mutual interests

Karmine - +rep

Winnyace - the controversial one

Kobold84 - chill, but has one thing I don't like

Lostsilver - too much fixation on art and characters

Marco - Miku

Patatitta - the contributor, actually has brains unlike some other people

zOz - FREEDOM RAAAHHHHHH

Aireu - the only associations I got are music and edating

There are also some inactive people and my irl friends who play osu, but I won't be naming them

feeling like an eagle meme

sametdze wrote: 1l1a4s

frogs can do that?

sametdze wrote: 1l1a4s

Dementedjet wrote: 513e4t

sametdze wrote: 1l1a4s

among the s i like, dementedjet is also there. idk he's always just seemed like a chubby kind friend, yk?

Sametdze - probably the closest one of all to me, mentally

how am i close to you mentally? i don't understand. yeah no, understand.

I just feel like the manner of how we both speak here is very similar, so that's why I decided to include it

Maybe you don't feel like it, but I do, so

xch00F wrote: 576j2p

if I load up a youtube tutorial on how to do a specific thing with a specific synth and then use that specific thing in my music, would you consider that to be or to not be original

you can shoot for originality all you want but the vast majority of us will never truly hit it. imo art that's compelling is more important and more directly impactful than art that's truly original. schoenberg could be a good example of art that's truly original, but not all that compelling, at least not to the average person.

sewerslvt does not belong in a discussion about originality when her music is boilerplate atmo dnb revivalism, the badly distorted pads covering up her complete inability to chop up drum loops. google "free amen breaks," the rhythm labs ultimate pack and you will find that she's used several of these loops, as is. countless artists have used them. I've used them. osu's featured artists have used them lol.

I don't think you're not allowed using samples or a specific type of sound if someone has already used it, that is not what i'm arguing, I don't mean you need to be on the level of originality of the artist that basically created certain genres, what I mean is that you need to develop a identity that is distinct from the other artists.

Let's talk in osu , In osu! there is a lot japanese EDM, however, you listen to camellia, you listen to kobaryo, and you listen to t+pazolite and you can differentiate them, they all use the same sounds and are probably inspired by the same sources but they're clearly distinct entity, with aireunaeus and sewerslvt I don't think such distinction really exists

It's not only that they're making songs that sounds VERY similar to their inspiration without much apparent artistic intention behind it (more than "I want to make breakcore!"), it's that the album cover also emulates it, it's that the way they write the song titles and generally try to sell their music is also the same. I feel there is a line between inspiration and copying someone, and I think they have crossed it

what i'm arguing is that they should just to music, a lot of music, music you enjoy and music you don't, and then painfully analyze and excrutinize even the smallest element of each song, see why they work, see why they don't, see what they techniques they use, what do those techniques accomplish, etc.

By doing that you're developing a toolbelt, and now, when you're making a song and you have an idea on your head of what you want to achieve, now that you have that deep understanding of music, I feel you can truly make something distinct. You can emulate how a certain artist sounds, but you also need to understand why that artist chose to make the song that way, and I feel that knowledge is WAY more important than knowing how to emulate it at a surface level

if you rly wanna do sewerslvt's schtick but better all you really need to do is learn how to use distortion well and you catapult yourself up to the top of the boring modern breakcore heap

MistressRemilia wrote: 95q3n

I mean... if you want music advice, you can always DM me. I've been doing it since 1998 or so.

did you ever have an acidplanet

xch00F wrote: 576j2p

MistressRemilia wrote: 95q3n

I mean... if you want music advice, you can always DM me. I've been doing it since 1998 or so.

did you ever have an acidplanet

Da fuq is acidplanet?

No, but I do have an acid house song that I wrote over a couple of days. I forget the TB-303 VST I used, but I using a Commodore 64 SID emulator for the bass line.

Very well. I do have a few things to say, some nice, some aren't. Might update this occasionally.

Aomi: I when I was basically bullied by her clique, and it did honestly bother me a lot at that time. We did basically just forgave each other at one point and went our separate ways. It's definitely something that scarred me at some point, though thanks to what happened I managed to learn to argue and to call out people on their behaviour, so I guess it's not all bad.

Nameless: Was in Aomi clique, often called me "dumb" and in general had judgemental character around himself.

Tae: Was also in Aomi clique. Felt rather showoff-ish.

Green Platinum: I suppose the "green" part comes from a certain four-leaf clover website. Definitely like the s of the aforementioned website, had no filter and seemed in general to be arrogant, as if just trying to call everyone to pick a fight. I think he was also in the Aomi clique?

kai99: At the time they were seriously active, honestly just felt like a hyperactive kid let loose.

Blitzfrog: Could say the same thing as kai99, but felt to be a bit older. Definitely didn't have a lot of filter.

Penguin: A figure who oozed with implied self-importance and authority, seemed to want to show superiority to everyone no matter what.

abraker: Out of all GMTs, actually didn't abandon their spirit of an OT shitposter, just had fun like everyone else.

Corne: I can agree with everyone else about Corne not being himself after becoming a GMT. To me it feels like he's forcing himself into this position of a GMT to look "official". I definitely like the old Corne who was a lot more genuine and approachable.

ColdTooth: A literal dinosaur. Her committment to still visiting this shipwreck is rather commendable after so much time.

Kobold84: I can see why so many people don't have much insight on him. From my insight when I was chatting at #russian, he seems to just be a normal Russian young adult male in a position of power, there's nothing beside it. He likes to discuss serious topics.

sametdze: still dedicated to trainfus, pretty commendable for keeping the schtick and not going absurd with it.

- Marco -: the same can't be said about him, it's like he's trying to insert Hatsune Miku into any conversation possible. I can agree with other assessments.

mizu_chuu: Definitely a more sane Miku fan. Or maybe I haven't seen them talk much?

Winnyace: I'm friends with this guy for a while, and frankly I have a few things to say. I am not going to bring too much of the cat out of the bag, but I'll just say that he has a longer fuse now, but he does explode into slurs sometimes. He has a hard time though, that I, as a Russian can relate, since we both live in ex-communist states with corruption in the government.

johnmedina999: literal goat of OT. The writer of OT!News, was present during the golden age of OT, so yeah. I wish he'd come back sometimes.

Behrauder: likes using neural networks for the purpose of posting, just a kid. I don't really sense any harm from them.

Pattattita: Well, definitely one of the most outspoken people here currently.

Achromalia: Was the most outspoken person on OT. Though they usually post on FG nowadays, perhaps our community was too much for him? Definitely likes to write long-winded responses to everything, seems to have a lot of free time, based on TN posting history.

upd1 16/01/25:

Tad: Literal edgelord with some computer experience, liked to LARP as Tanya from that one anime series.

Kolmas: Fellow eroge enjoyer :3

Edit2:
Tateshina Eve: A friend a care too much about to the point of fault, seriously. I really enjoy his company <3

Isshiki Kaname wrote: 6cd23

- Marco -: the same can't be said about him, it's like he's trying to insert Hatsune Miku into any conversation possible. I can agree with other assessments.

Sorry 😭

Isshiki Kaname wrote: 6cd23

Penguin: A figure who oozed with implied self-importance and authority, seemed to want to show superiority to everyone no matter what.

ouch, what happened to make you think that?

color me unsurprised at winny sometimes exploding into slurs rofl

MistressRemilia wrote: 95q3n

Da fuq is acidplanet?

No, but I do have an acid house song that I wrote over a couple of days. I forget the TB-303 VST I used, but I using a Commodore 64 SID emulator for the bass line.

old website for ing music, I using it sometime in the early 2000s lol

Karmine was born in the 1900s wtf
This guy survived the great depression or some shit

Ymir wrote: 2z2l6t

Karmine was born in the 1900s wtf
This guy survived the great depression or some shit

damn they were depressed?, congrats of them for overcoming that

Patatitta wrote: 5t25

Ymir wrote: 2z2l6t

Karmine was born in the 1900s wtf
This guy survived the great depression or some shit

damn they were depressed?, congrats of them for overcoming that

Real.

Kaname gotta be the freakiest dude on ot and half the people don’t even know it. I don’t think anyone here can match his freak if he goes all out.

I was imagined yoony1 as the 5’3 Australian kid before I learned it’s actually Ymir

Potato man had actually the worst introduction to ot compared to where he is now. He said barely anything and did nothing. It was so bad he went under the denizen radar. And then when elections rolled around he became political and won. Definitely learned some tips and tricks from mein kampf

shin run uuuuhhh... just uuhhh

guy above me is stupid

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

Kaname gotta be the freakiest dude on ot and half the people don’t even know it. I don’t think anyone here can match his freak if he goes all out.

💀

Some more thoughts

I always got Macro’s name wrong. This man is lowkey not doing enough for miku like how are you gonna lose to some Japanese dude that literally married miku.

Doom mood should use the doom shroom as pfp. He feel like if ot was a family, he would be the youngest kid if yk what I mean.

I thought sametdze was some normal level headed dude but he’s becoming weirder by the day.

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

I thought sametdze was some normal level headed dude but he’s becoming weirder by the day.

really? i think it's just the opposite

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

I thought sametdze was some normal level headed dude but he’s becoming weirder by the day.

really? i think it's just the opposite

I’m not really sure, too normal to understand him

that brief moment where sametdze had the school shooter avatar and a spreadsheet detailing the guns used in shootings was definitely level headed and extremely normal

𝙶𝚛𝚎𝚎𝚝𝚒𝚗𝚐𝚜,

𝙸 𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚔 𝚎𝚟𝚎𝚛𝚢𝚘𝚗𝚎 𝚑𝚎𝚛𝚎 𝚒𝚜 𝚐𝚊𝚢.

𝚂𝚊𝚕𝚞𝚝𝚊𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚜
𝚂𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚊𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚐𝚊

Whenever Serriaonga pukes, it comes out as Nyan Cat’s rainbow trails

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

I always got Macro’s name wrong. This man is lowkey not doing enough for miku like how are you gonna lose to some Japanese dude that literally married miku.

I always limit myself because i know i'm annoying enough as i am right now

ngl I am a huge degenerate freak.

Karmine wrote: 6c5h1b

Patatitta wrote: 5t25

Ymir wrote: 2z2l6t

Karmine was born in the 1900s wtf
This guy survived the great depression or some shit

damn they were depressed?, congrats of them for overcoming that

Real.

You prepared for Great Depression 2?

xch00F wrote: 576j2p

that brief moment where sametdze had the school shooter avatar and a spreadsheet detailing the guns used in shootings was definitely level headed and extremely normal

that was andre kriegman. its a FICTIONAL shooter so i'm not out here going full sol pais.
icl though, zero day fans are weird


but anyways yeah that era was EXTREMELY CRINGE, the only good thing was i managed to make some friends in the tcc but.. they're also pretty weird. you never know when one of them is actually gonna run amok

proud to say i have moved on from it though, i'm nowhere near the mentality i had back then xD

sametdze wrote: 1l1a4s

xch00F wrote: 576j2p

that brief moment where sametdze had the school shooter avatar and a spreadsheet detailing the guns used in shootings was definitely level headed and extremely normal

that was andre kriegman. its a FICTIONAL shooter so i'm not out here going full sol pais.
icl though, zero day fans are weird


but anyways yeah that era was EXTREMELY CRINGE, the only good thing was i managed to make some friends in the tcc but.. they're also pretty weird. you never know when one of them is actually gonna run amok

proud to say i have moved on from it though, i'm nowhere near the mentality i had back then xD

Damn I was on hiatus during this time so my first interaction with this freak was about a month ago

I thought that School Shooter pfp was Samets IRL face this entire time wtf

mate you've seen my face before

(you've probably forgotten it by now though)

sametdze wrote: 1l1a4s

mate you've seen my face before

(you've probably forgotten it by now though)

Not me, you look like jay kay lol

xch00F wrote: 576j2p

color me unsurprised at winny sometimes exploding into slurs rofl

MistressRemilia wrote: 95q3n

Da fuq is acidplanet?

No, but I do have an acid house song that I wrote over a couple of days. I forget the TB-303 VST I used, but I using a Commodore 64 SID emulator for the bass line.

old website for ing music, I using it sometime in the early 2000s lol

Very interesting that you guys made or ed music before i even was born lol. And when i saw 1998 i immediately thought of acid music which i somehow was right lol

Aireunaeus wrote: 2w2b1a

sametdze wrote: 1l1a4s

mate you've seen my face before

(you've probably forgotten it by now though)

Not me, you look like jay kay lol

i still don't see it

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

Doom mood should use the doom shroom as pfp. He feel like if ot was a family, he would be the youngest kid if yk what I mean.

damn my silliness and energy really does give a vibe of a young child, now that i think of it, my group of friends do consider me the life of the party and i felt like i was being babied around by the entirety of my class last year

they will keep treating me like that cuz i am mostly dependent and act like one

Aireunaeus wrote: 2w2b1a

xch00F wrote: 576j2p

color me unsurprised at winny sometimes exploding into slurs rofl

MistressRemilia wrote: 95q3n

Da fuq is acidplanet?

No, but I do have an acid house song that I wrote over a couple of days. I forget the TB-303 VST I used, but I using a Commodore 64 SID emulator for the bass line.

old website for ing music, I using it sometime in the early 2000s lol

Very interesting that you guys made or ed music before i even was born lol. And when i saw 1998 i immediately thought of acid music which i somehow was right lol

1996-1998 is around the time I got into trance, techno, acid house, and such, actually. It just happened to coincide with when I started to write music. And high school. My early attempts at acid sucked ass, though.

Aireunaeus wrote: 2w2b1a

Very interesting that you guys made or ed music before i even was born lol. And when i saw 1998 i immediately thought of acid music which i somehow was right lol

my first rhythm game ever was actually a ps2 game called frequency from roughly 2002, it flipped a switch in my brain and I've been super into music ever since. the first music I ever made would have been around 2003 or 2004 using some dumb shit on the ps2 called magix music maker, but then in 2005 I learned about fl studio so I grabbed a crack and got to making some of the worst speedcore on the planet lmao. I think my first album from 2006 is still floating around on the internet but it is very edgy and awful

if remilia was in high school in 98 she's roughly 8-10 years older than me, I graduated in 2008

MistressRemilia wrote: 95q3n

1996-1998 is around the time I got into trance, techno, acid house, and such, actually. It just happened to coincide with when I started to write music. And high school. My early attempts at acid sucked ass, though.

hey so did mine! probably in part because we were using free/cracked tb-303 vsts lol
if you were making music in the late 90s I'm guessing you were using a tracker?

xch00F wrote: 576j2p

Aireunaeus wrote: 2w2b1a

Very interesting that you guys made or ed music before i even was born lol. And when i saw 1998 i immediately thought of acid music which i somehow was right lol

my first rhythm game ever was actually a ps2 game called frequency from roughly 2002, it flipped a switch in my brain and I've been super into music ever since. the first music I ever made would have been around 2003 or 2004 using some dumb shit on the ps2 called magix music maker, but then in 2005 I learned about fl studio so I grabbed a crack and got to making some of the worst speedcore on the planet lmao. I think my first album from 2006 is still floating around on the internet but it is very edgy and awful

if remilia was in high school in 98 she's roughly 8-10 years older than me, I graduated in 2008

MistressRemilia wrote: 95q3n

1996-1998 is around the time I got into trance, techno, acid house, and such, actually. It just happened to coincide with when I started to write music. And high school. My early attempts at acid sucked ass, though.

hey so did mine! probably in part because we were using free/cracked tb-303 vsts lol
if you were making music in the late 90s I'm guessing you were using a tracker?

Actually no! I started off writing General MIDI music in Cakewalk Home Studio ('cause I wanted to use some of it in Doom levels), then later used an updated Cakewalk Pro Audio. Later on I used Reason a bit, but didn't like it, so I moved back to using Cakewalk Sonar 8. I actually started using a tracker in 2014 (Renoise, so I can still use VSTs, though I've also dabbled in Deflemask and Sunvox). What's kinda funny is that I've never used flstudio or its predecessors.

At some time I also used Propellerhead's old ReBirth RB-338 software, but only did a single song in it... and I later redid it in Cakewalk anyway.

Actually I forgot I had an old blog post writeup from almost a year ago that documents my musical journey.

And I'm 41. I graduated high school in 2002.

Serraionga wrote: 2r3s1z

𝙶𝚛𝚎𝚎𝚝𝚒𝚗𝚐𝚜,

𝙸 𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚔 𝚎𝚟𝚎𝚛𝚢𝚘𝚗𝚎 𝚑𝚎𝚛𝚎 𝚒𝚜 𝚐𝚊𝚢.

𝚂𝚊𝚕𝚞𝚝𝚊𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚜
𝚂𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚊𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚐𝚊

Karmine wrote: 6c5h1b

Serraionga wrote: 2r3s1z

𝙶𝚛𝚎𝚎𝚝𝚒𝚗𝚐𝚜,

𝙸 𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚔 𝚎𝚟𝚎𝚛𝚢𝚘𝚗𝚎 𝚑𝚎𝚛𝚎 𝚒𝚜 𝚐𝚊𝚢.

𝚂𝚊𝚕𝚞𝚝𝚊𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚜
𝚂𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚊𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚐𝚊

As a gay person, I find this to be accurate.

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

I expected kobold to be the next abraker but this man disappeared.

dude I dont remem when kobold made anything that was OT!Events worthy

Kobold84 wrote: 4c5ma

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

I expected kobold to be the next abraker but this man disappeared.

Don't be like that… I was on vacation. We all need a mental break. A reset. You don't want to get neurasthenia and never come back.

yea this is why. I had no break for 3-4 years straight. For that long I tracked each denizen and post on here like a hawk

Reyalp51 wrote: 3o2r5d

im boring i have no hot takes

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

I expected kobold to be the next abraker but this man disappeared.

dude I dont remem when kobold made anything that was OT!Events worthy

Kobold84 wrote: 4c5ma

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

I expected kobold to be the next abraker but this man disappeared.

Don't be like that… I was on vacation. We all need a mental break. A reset. You don't want to get neurasthenia and never come back.

yea this is why. I had no break for 3-4 years straight. For that long I tracked each denizen and post on here like a hawk

Look man I gave him the benefit of the doubt since he was new at the time but he just vanished.
I was also like a hawk too.

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

hawk too.

i feel an immense animosity in my heart

what are you guys talking about?

I wanna die.

PFFFF BAHAHAHAHAHAHHA