got it lelxch00F wrote: 576j2p
to save patches too if you're working with a synth but if you forget, you still get samples
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if I load up a youtube tutorial on how to do a specific thing with a specific synth and then use that specific thing in my music, would you consider that to be or to not be original
you can shoot for originality all you want but the vast majority of us will never truly hit it. imo art that's compelling is more important and more directly impactful than art that's truly original. schoenberg could be a good example of art that's truly original, but not all that compelling, at least not to the average person.
sewerslvt does not belong in a discussion about originality when her music is boilerplate atmo dnb revivalism, the badly distorted pads covering up her complete inability to chop up drum loops. google "free amen breaks," the rhythm labs ultimate pack and you will find that she's used several of these loops, as is. countless artists have used them. I've used them. osu's featured artists have used them lol.
you can shoot for originality all you want but the vast majority of us will never truly hit it. imo art that's compelling is more important and more directly impactful than art that's truly original. schoenberg could be a good example of art that's truly original, but not all that compelling, at least not to the average person.
sewerslvt does not belong in a discussion about originality when her music is boilerplate atmo dnb revivalism, the badly distorted pads covering up her complete inability to chop up drum loops. google "free amen breaks," the rhythm labs ultimate pack and you will find that she's used several of these loops, as is. countless artists have used them. I've used them. osu's featured artists have used them lol.
holy shit 26Karmine wrote: 6c5h1b
Nah I'm glad rp is dead tbh.ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2
The greatest wisdoms are often ed down and taughtKarmine wrote: 6c5h1b
All the horny roleplayers are gone though.ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2
the good o days where you had gay roleplay with CalvinKarmine wrote: 6c5h1b
I just got old I guess, also I mostly lurk don't post a lot.ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2
Istg karmine was so much freakier when he first started but he suddenly went “oh shit I’m supposed to be an adult” and changed
I still say random shit sometimes though.
Especially when you consider that at the time I was like 22-23 while the others were probably 19 at most which is already kinda weird, now I'm 26 I definitely wouldn't do it with the mostly <18 who are here.
Also the horny is mostly kept to discord now, which is better for everyone.
feeling like an eagle memeDementedjet wrote: 513e4t
I'm actually underweight, so def not chubbysametdze wrote: 1l1a4s
among the s i like, dementedjet is also there. idk he's always just seemed like a chubby kind friend, yk?
Time to fire off some opinions, everybody not included is probably neutral
Sametdze - probably the closest one of all to me, mentally
Farfocele - ++rep, has the most mutual interests
Karmine - +rep
Winnyace - the controversial one
Kobold84 - chill, but has one thing I don't like
Lostsilver - too much fixation on art and characters
Marco - Miku
Patatitta - the contributor, actually has brains unlike some other people
zOz - FREEDOM RAAAHHHHHH
Aireu - the only associations I got are music and edating
There are also some inactive people and my irl friends who play osu, but I won't be naming them
sametdze wrote: 1l1a4s
frogs can do that?
I just feel like the manner of how we both speak here is very similar, so that's why I decided to include itsametdze wrote: 1l1a4s
how am i close to you mentally? i don't understand. yeah no, understand.Dementedjet wrote: 513e4t
Sametdze - probably the closest one of all to me, mentallysametdze wrote: 1l1a4s
among the s i like, dementedjet is also there. idk he's always just seemed like a chubby kind friend, yk?
Maybe you don't feel like it, but I do, so
I don't think you're not allowed using samples or a specific type of sound if someone has already used it, that is not what i'm arguing, I don't mean you need to be on the level of originality of the artist that basically created certain genres, what I mean is that you need to develop a identity that is distinct from the other artists.xch00F wrote: 576j2p
if I load up a youtube tutorial on how to do a specific thing with a specific synth and then use that specific thing in my music, would you consider that to be or to not be original
you can shoot for originality all you want but the vast majority of us will never truly hit it. imo art that's compelling is more important and more directly impactful than art that's truly original. schoenberg could be a good example of art that's truly original, but not all that compelling, at least not to the average person.
sewerslvt does not belong in a discussion about originality when her music is boilerplate atmo dnb revivalism, the badly distorted pads covering up her complete inability to chop up drum loops. google "free amen breaks," the rhythm labs ultimate pack and you will find that she's used several of these loops, as is. countless artists have used them. I've used them. osu's featured artists have used them lol.
Let's talk in osu , In osu! there is a lot japanese EDM, however, you listen to camellia, you listen to kobaryo, and you listen to t+pazolite and you can differentiate them, they all use the same sounds and are probably inspired by the same sources but they're clearly distinct entity, with aireunaeus and sewerslvt I don't think such distinction really exists
It's not only that they're making songs that sounds VERY similar to their inspiration without much apparent artistic intention behind it (more than "I want to make breakcore!"), it's that the album cover also emulates it, it's that the way they write the song titles and generally try to sell their music is also the same. I feel there is a line between inspiration and copying someone, and I think they have crossed it
what i'm arguing is that they should just to music, a lot of music, music you enjoy and music you don't, and then painfully analyze and excrutinize even the smallest element of each song, see why they work, see why they don't, see what they techniques they use, what do those techniques accomplish, etc.
By doing that you're developing a toolbelt, and now, when you're making a song and you have an idea on your head of what you want to achieve, now that you have that deep understanding of music, I feel you can truly make something distinct. You can emulate how a certain artist sounds, but you also need to understand why that artist chose to make the song that way, and I feel that knowledge is WAY more important than knowing how to emulate it at a surface level
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if you rly wanna do sewerslvt's schtick but better all you really need to do is learn how to use distortion well and you catapult yourself up to the top of the boring modern breakcore heap
did you ever have an acidplanetMistressRemilia wrote: 95q3n
I mean... if you want music advice, you can always DM me. I've been doing it since 1998 or so.
Da fuq is acidplanet?xch00F wrote: 576j2p
did you ever have an acidplanetMistressRemilia wrote: 95q3n
I mean... if you want music advice, you can always DM me. I've been doing it since 1998 or so.
No, but I do have an acid house song that I wrote over a couple of days. I forget the TB-303 VST I used, but I using a Commodore 64 SID emulator for the bass line.
Very well. I do have a few things to say, some nice, some aren't. Might update this occasionally.
Aomi: I when I was basically bullied by her clique, and it did honestly bother me a lot at that time. We did basically just forgave each other at one point and went our separate ways. It's definitely something that scarred me at some point, though thanks to what happened I managed to learn to argue and to call out people on their behaviour, so I guess it's not all bad.
Nameless: Was in Aomi clique, often called me "dumb" and in general had judgemental character around himself.
Tae: Was also in Aomi clique. Felt rather showoff-ish.
Green Platinum: I suppose the "green" part comes from a certain four-leaf clover website. Definitely like the s of the aforementioned website, had no filter and seemed in general to be arrogant, as if just trying to call everyone to pick a fight. I think he was also in the Aomi clique?
kai99: At the time they were seriously active, honestly just felt like a hyperactive kid let loose.
Blitzfrog: Could say the same thing as kai99, but felt to be a bit older. Definitely didn't have a lot of filter.
Penguin: A figure who oozed with implied self-importance and authority, seemed to want to show superiority to everyone no matter what.
abraker: Out of all GMTs, actually didn't abandon their spirit of an OT shitposter, just had fun like everyone else.
Corne: I can agree with everyone else about Corne not being himself after becoming a GMT. To me it feels like he's forcing himself into this position of a GMT to look "official". I definitely like the old Corne who was a lot more genuine and approachable.
ColdTooth: A literal dinosaur. Her committment to still visiting this shipwreck is rather commendable after so much time.
Kobold84: I can see why so many people don't have much insight on him. From my insight when I was chatting at #russian, he seems to just be a normal Russian young adult male in a position of power, there's nothing beside it. He likes to discuss serious topics.
sametdze: still dedicated to trainfus, pretty commendable for keeping the schtick and not going absurd with it.
- Marco -: the same can't be said about him, it's like he's trying to insert Hatsune Miku into any conversation possible. I can agree with other assessments.
mizu_chuu: Definitely a more sane Miku fan. Or maybe I haven't seen them talk much?
Winnyace: I'm friends with this guy for a while, and frankly I have a few things to say. I am not going to bring too much of the cat out of the bag, but I'll just say that he has a longer fuse now, but he does explode into slurs sometimes. He has a hard time though, that I, as a Russian can relate, since we both live in ex-communist states with corruption in the government.
johnmedina999: literal goat of OT. The writer of OT!News, was present during the golden age of OT, so yeah. I wish he'd come back sometimes.
Behrauder: likes using neural networks for the purpose of posting, just a kid. I don't really sense any harm from them.
Pattattita: Well, definitely one of the most outspoken people here currently.
Achromalia: Was the most outspoken person on OT. Though they usually post on FG nowadays, perhaps our community was too much for him? Definitely likes to write long-winded responses to everything, seems to have a lot of free time, based on TN posting history.
upd1 16/01/25:
Tad: Literal edgelord with some computer experience, liked to LARP as Tanya from that one anime series.
Kolmas: Fellow eroge enjoyer :3
Edit2:
Tateshina Eve: A friend a care too much about to the point of fault, seriously. I really enjoy his company <3
Aomi: I when I was basically bullied by her clique, and it did honestly bother me a lot at that time. We did basically just forgave each other at one point and went our separate ways. It's definitely something that scarred me at some point, though thanks to what happened I managed to learn to argue and to call out people on their behaviour, so I guess it's not all bad.
Nameless: Was in Aomi clique, often called me "dumb" and in general had judgemental character around himself.
Tae: Was also in Aomi clique. Felt rather showoff-ish.
Green Platinum: I suppose the "green" part comes from a certain four-leaf clover website. Definitely like the s of the aforementioned website, had no filter and seemed in general to be arrogant, as if just trying to call everyone to pick a fight. I think he was also in the Aomi clique?
kai99: At the time they were seriously active, honestly just felt like a hyperactive kid let loose.
Blitzfrog: Could say the same thing as kai99, but felt to be a bit older. Definitely didn't have a lot of filter.
Penguin: A figure who oozed with implied self-importance and authority, seemed to want to show superiority to everyone no matter what.
abraker: Out of all GMTs, actually didn't abandon their spirit of an OT shitposter, just had fun like everyone else.
Corne: I can agree with everyone else about Corne not being himself after becoming a GMT. To me it feels like he's forcing himself into this position of a GMT to look "official". I definitely like the old Corne who was a lot more genuine and approachable.
ColdTooth: A literal dinosaur. Her committment to still visiting this shipwreck is rather commendable after so much time.
Kobold84: I can see why so many people don't have much insight on him. From my insight when I was chatting at #russian, he seems to just be a normal Russian young adult male in a position of power, there's nothing beside it. He likes to discuss serious topics.
sametdze: still dedicated to trainfus, pretty commendable for keeping the schtick and not going absurd with it.
- Marco -: the same can't be said about him, it's like he's trying to insert Hatsune Miku into any conversation possible. I can agree with other assessments.
mizu_chuu: Definitely a more sane Miku fan. Or maybe I haven't seen them talk much?
Winnyace: I'm friends with this guy for a while, and frankly I have a few things to say. I am not going to bring too much of the cat out of the bag, but I'll just say that he has a longer fuse now, but he does explode into slurs sometimes. He has a hard time though, that I, as a Russian can relate, since we both live in ex-communist states with corruption in the government.
johnmedina999: literal goat of OT. The writer of OT!News, was present during the golden age of OT, so yeah. I wish he'd come back sometimes.
Behrauder: likes using neural networks for the purpose of posting, just a kid. I don't really sense any harm from them.
Pattattita: Well, definitely one of the most outspoken people here currently.
Achromalia: Was the most outspoken person on OT. Though they usually post on FG nowadays, perhaps our community was too much for him? Definitely likes to write long-winded responses to everything, seems to have a lot of free time, based on TN posting history.
upd1 16/01/25:
Tad: Literal edgelord with some computer experience, liked to LARP as Tanya from that one anime series.
Kolmas: Fellow eroge enjoyer :3
Edit2:
Tateshina Eve: A friend a care too much about to the point of fault, seriously. I really enjoy his company <3
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color me unsurprised at winny sometimes exploding into slurs rofl
old website for ing music, I using it sometime in the early 2000s lolMistressRemilia wrote: 95q3n
Da fuq is acidplanet?
No, but I do have an acid house song that I wrote over a couple of days. I forget the TB-303 VST I used, but I using a Commodore 64 SID emulator for the bass line.
Kaname gotta be the freakiest dude on ot and half the people don’t even know it. I don’t think anyone here can match his freak if he goes all out.
I was imagined yoony1 as the 5’3 Australian kid before I learned it’s actually Ymir
Potato man had actually the worst introduction to ot compared to where he is now. He said barely anything and did nothing. It was so bad he went under the denizen radar. And then when elections rolled around he became political and won. Definitely learned some tips and tricks from mein kampf
I was imagined yoony1 as the 5’3 Australian kid before I learned it’s actually Ymir
Potato man had actually the worst introduction to ot compared to where he is now. He said barely anything and did nothing. It was so bad he went under the denizen radar. And then when elections rolled around he became political and won. Definitely learned some tips and tricks from mein kampf
Some more thoughts
I always got Macro’s name wrong. This man is lowkey not doing enough for miku like how are you gonna lose to some Japanese dude that literally married miku.
Doom mood should use the doom shroom as pfp. He feel like if ot was a family, he would be the youngest kid if yk what I mean.
I thought sametdze was some normal level headed dude but he’s becoming weirder by the day.
I always got Macro’s name wrong. This man is lowkey not doing enough for miku like how are you gonna lose to some Japanese dude that literally married miku.
Doom mood should use the doom shroom as pfp. He feel like if ot was a family, he would be the youngest kid if yk what I mean.
I thought sametdze was some normal level headed dude but he’s becoming weirder by the day.
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𝙶𝚛𝚎𝚎𝚝𝚒𝚗𝚐𝚜,
𝙸 𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚔 𝚎𝚟𝚎𝚛𝚢𝚘𝚗𝚎 𝚑𝚎𝚛𝚎 𝚒𝚜 𝚐𝚊𝚢.
𝚂𝚊𝚕𝚞𝚝𝚊𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚜
𝚂𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚊𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚐𝚊
𝙸 𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚔 𝚎𝚟𝚎𝚛𝚢𝚘𝚗𝚎 𝚑𝚎𝚛𝚎 𝚒𝚜 𝚐𝚊𝚢.
𝚂𝚊𝚕𝚞𝚝𝚊𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚜
𝚂𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚊𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚐𝚊
that was andre kriegman. its a FICTIONAL shooter so i'm not out here going full sol pais.xch00F wrote: 576j2p
that brief moment where sametdze had the school shooter avatar and a spreadsheet detailing the guns used in shootings was definitely level headed and extremely normal
icl though, zero day fans are weird
but anyways yeah that era was EXTREMELY CRINGE, the only good thing was i managed to make some friends in the tcc but.. they're also pretty weird. you never know when one of them is actually gonna run amok
proud to say i have moved on from it though, i'm nowhere near the mentality i had back then xD
Damn I was on hiatus during this time so my first interaction with this freak was about a month agosametdze wrote: 1l1a4s
that was andre kriegman. its a FICTIONAL shooter so i'm not out here going full sol pais.xch00F wrote: 576j2p
that brief moment where sametdze had the school shooter avatar and a spreadsheet detailing the guns used in shootings was definitely level headed and extremely normal
icl though, zero day fans are weird
but anyways yeah that era was EXTREMELY CRINGE, the only good thing was i managed to make some friends in the tcc but.. they're also pretty weird. you never know when one of them is actually gonna run amok
proud to say i have moved on from it though, i'm nowhere near the mentality i had back then xD
Not me, you look like jay kay lolsametdze wrote: 1l1a4s
mate you've seen my face before
(you've probably forgotten it by now though)
Very interesting that you guys made or ed music before i even was born lol. And when i saw 1998 i immediately thought of acid music which i somehow was right lolxch00F wrote: 576j2p
color me unsurprised at winny sometimes exploding into slurs rofl
old website for ing music, I using it sometime in the early 2000s lolMistressRemilia wrote: 95q3n
Da fuq is acidplanet?
No, but I do have an acid house song that I wrote over a couple of days. I forget the TB-303 VST I used, but I using a Commodore 64 SID emulator for the bass line.
damn my silliness and energy really does give a vibe of a young child, now that i think of it, my group of friends do consider me the life of the party and i felt like i was being babied around by the entirety of my class last yearShinRun wrote: 4p6j2
Doom mood should use the doom shroom as pfp. He feel like if ot was a family, he would be the youngest kid if yk what I mean.
they will keep treating me like that cuz i am mostly dependent and act like one
1996-1998 is around the time I got into trance, techno, acid house, and such, actually. It just happened to coincide with when I started to write music. And high school. My early attempts at acid sucked ass, though.Aireunaeus wrote: 2w2b1a
Very interesting that you guys made or ed music before i even was born lol. And when i saw 1998 i immediately thought of acid music which i somehow was right lolxch00F wrote: 576j2p
color me unsurprised at winny sometimes exploding into slurs rofl
old website for ing music, I using it sometime in the early 2000s lolMistressRemilia wrote: 95q3n
Da fuq is acidplanet?
No, but I do have an acid house song that I wrote over a couple of days. I forget the TB-303 VST I used, but I using a Commodore 64 SID emulator for the bass line.
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my first rhythm game ever was actually a ps2 game called frequency from roughly 2002, it flipped a switch in my brain and I've been super into music ever since. the first music I ever made would have been around 2003 or 2004 using some dumb shit on the ps2 called magix music maker, but then in 2005 I learned about fl studio so I grabbed a crack and got to making some of the worst speedcore on the planet lmao. I think my first album from 2006 is still floating around on the internet but it is very edgy and awfulAireunaeus wrote: 2w2b1a
Very interesting that you guys made or ed music before i even was born lol. And when i saw 1998 i immediately thought of acid music which i somehow was right lol
if remilia was in high school in 98 she's roughly 8-10 years older than me, I graduated in 2008
hey so did mine! probably in part because we were using free/cracked tb-303 vsts lolMistressRemilia wrote: 95q3n
1996-1998 is around the time I got into trance, techno, acid house, and such, actually. It just happened to coincide with when I started to write music. And high school. My early attempts at acid sucked ass, though.
if you were making music in the late 90s I'm guessing you were using a tracker?
Actually no! I started off writing General MIDI music in Cakewalk Home Studio ('cause I wanted to use some of it in Doom levels), then later used an updated Cakewalk Pro Audio. Later on I used Reason a bit, but didn't like it, so I moved back to using Cakewalk Sonar 8. I actually started using a tracker in 2014 (Renoise, so I can still use VSTs, though I've also dabbled in Deflemask and Sunvox). What's kinda funny is that I've never used flstudio or its predecessors.xch00F wrote: 576j2p
my first rhythm game ever was actually a ps2 game called frequency from roughly 2002, it flipped a switch in my brain and I've been super into music ever since. the first music I ever made would have been around 2003 or 2004 using some dumb shit on the ps2 called magix music maker, but then in 2005 I learned about fl studio so I grabbed a crack and got to making some of the worst speedcore on the planet lmao. I think my first album from 2006 is still floating around on the internet but it is very edgy and awfulAireunaeus wrote: 2w2b1a
Very interesting that you guys made or ed music before i even was born lol. And when i saw 1998 i immediately thought of acid music which i somehow was right lol
if remilia was in high school in 98 she's roughly 8-10 years older than me, I graduated in 2008
hey so did mine! probably in part because we were using free/cracked tb-303 vsts lolMistressRemilia wrote: 95q3n
1996-1998 is around the time I got into trance, techno, acid house, and such, actually. It just happened to coincide with when I started to write music. And high school. My early attempts at acid sucked ass, though.
if you were making music in the late 90s I'm guessing you were using a tracker?
At some time I also used Propellerhead's old ReBirth RB-338 software, but only did a single song in it... and I later redid it in Cakewalk anyway.
Actually I forgot I had an old blog post writeup from almost a year ago that documents my musical journey.
And I'm 41. I graduated high school in 2002.
Serraionga wrote: 2r3s1z
𝙶𝚛𝚎𝚎𝚝𝚒𝚗𝚐𝚜,
𝙸 𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚔 𝚎𝚟𝚎𝚛𝚢𝚘𝚗𝚎 𝚑𝚎𝚛𝚎 𝚒𝚜 𝚐𝚊𝚢.
𝚂𝚊𝚕𝚞𝚝𝚊𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚜
𝚂𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚊𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚐𝚊
As a gay person, I find this to be accurate.Karmine wrote: 6c5h1b
Serraionga wrote: 2r3s1z
𝙶𝚛𝚎𝚎𝚝𝚒𝚗𝚐𝚜,
𝙸 𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚔 𝚎𝚟𝚎𝚛𝚢𝚘𝚗𝚎 𝚑𝚎𝚛𝚎 𝚒𝚜 𝚐𝚊𝚢.
𝚂𝚊𝚕𝚞𝚝𝚊𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚜
𝚂𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚊𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚐𝚊
dude I dont remem when kobold made anything that was OT!Events worthyShinRun wrote: 4p6j2
I expected kobold to be the next abraker but this man disappeared.
yea this is why. I had no break for 3-4 years straight. For that long I tracked each denizen and post on here like a hawkKobold84 wrote: 4c5ma
Don't be like that… I was on vacation. We all need a mental break. A reset. You don't want to get neurasthenia and never come back.ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2
I expected kobold to be the next abraker but this man disappeared.
Look man I gave him the benefit of the doubt since he was new at the time but he just vanished.abraker wrote: 6cx2d
dude I dont remem when kobold made anything that was OT!Events worthyShinRun wrote: 4p6j2
I expected kobold to be the next abraker but this man disappeared.
yea this is why. I had no break for 3-4 years straight. For that long I tracked each denizen and post on here like a hawkKobold84 wrote: 4c5ma
Don't be like that… I was on vacation. We all need a mental break. A reset. You don't want to get neurasthenia and never come back.ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2
I expected kobold to be the next abraker but this man disappeared.
I was also like a hawk too.