I make this thread for two reasons:

1. To finally move on from this entire thing, personally;
2. To hopefully show to a member here that has decided to cut ties with me after what I did in that thread that I'm actually planning to change in a healthier direction.

I will say my full opinion on this matter in the most mature way I can. After this, I will completely move on from the thread and I did in it and outside of it. I would like to ask the GMTs to not immediately delete this post/lock it, unless it again spirals out of control (which I doubt it will happen).

Patatitta's thread, in my eyes, is more or less a cry for OT to change, that came from someone who fundamentally believes saying out loud what they think, on a constant basis, is a sign of a healthy community. The problem with this is two fold.

There's nothing connecting anyone here to each other. The only thing that connects us is the game itself, which is very rarely mentioned here and when it is, it is done by an outsider, almost every time. As a result, the people of this sub-forum have sparse, often conflicting interests. Patatitta believes this would make it so OT would be an argumentative ground, but it isn't. It is overwhelming positive. I believe this is in part due to many of them simply not being interested in fighting tooth and nail for the positions they have. Most people here, myself included at least most of the time, don't want to "fight". They just want to chill and have fun, which also why I believe the thread quality is so low and why threads that actively try to include others in it are so liked. There's more to it, but from this point, I believe it starts to become more and more personal, which isn't important for this context.

A community of individuals doesn't need constant opinion pieces on everything in order to be healthy. Look at the Minecraft community: Most people you would see online that talk about the game are really bitter about it and they actively hate it, part because of Mojang, but part because of the community itself fueled itself negativity after negativity. It's fine to discuss about things, but constantly doing so, especially in a setting like this where there's nothing for you to connect what you're reading with listening with another person. As a result, constantly arguing about stuff has lead to the current internet, a place extremely polarized and hostile. OT is more or less a refugee camp, since it is mostly obscure, with regulars here knowing each other's name, being easy to come in and chat as well. I believe individuals here just want to chill. It's not that they're drama averse, it's that they simply believe it isn't important to constantly be polarizing.

With this, I will end what I said. I apologize, again, for the overreaction to that thread. I hope that this year will be the year I will finally deal with my own bullshit.

I agree

what thread you talking about dawg i havent being keeping up with the ot lore

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

what thread you talking about dawg i havent being keeping up with the ot lore

a thread where potato boy told the truth

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

what thread you talking about dawg i havent being keeping up with the ot lore

community/forums/topics/1867449?n=1

My Angel Anaxii wrote: 2s271c

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

what thread you talking about dawg i havent being keeping up with the ot lore

a thread where potato boy told the truth

A desire isn't a truth.

Ymir wrote: 2z2l6t

My Angel Anaxii wrote: 2s271c

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

what thread you talking about dawg i havent being keeping up with the ot lore

a thread where potato boy told the truth

A desire isn't a truth.

wait lemme rephrase that ig lol

a thread where potato boy told his honest opinion on what ot is.

btw i agree what winny says. it doesnt matter if ot ar actin like npcs. after all noone cares lul

you guys STILL don't get my point


in basic, my point is dont act so positive the entire time. I'm not saying "we should have intellectual debate in OT", it's, don't fucking act like npc. Everyone in OT acts the same since no one wants to act differently. Feel free to just say "hey this thread is bad" or "I disagree with this". Not only that, but everyone claims that they have certain values like caring for OT lore, while this is a blatant lie.

That thread is critizicing people like my angel anaxii, NOT you, I actually said in my thread thaet YOU were one of the people that were completely fine as you actually did complain about shit and were yourself in the thread

Patatitta wrote: 5t25

you guys STILL don't get my point


in basic, my point is dont act so positive the entire time. I'm not saying "we should have intellectual debate in OT", it's, don't fucking act like npc. Everyone in OT acts the same since no one wants to act differently. Feel free to just say "hey this thread is bad" or "I disagree with this". Not only that, but everyone claims that they have certain values like caring for OT lore, while this is a blatant lie.

That thread is critizicing people like my angel anaxii, NOT you, I actually said in my thread thaet YOU were one of the people that were completely fine as you actually did complain about shit and were yourself in the thread

Your last sentence gives everything away honestly: "You were one of the people that were completely fine as you actually did complain about and were yourself in the thread". You genuinely seem to believe that arguing about your position on something, anything, makes you better or special than someone who doesn't. There are simply way too many reasons why someone would just not say anything about something. Calling people like those NPCs is, in my opinion, straight up toxic.

You say everybody on OT acts the same. Do they? There particularities in each individual here, in my eyes. It's just that they're very subtile. lostsilver, who I'm sure is on your list of people here that are "NPCs", seems to just want people to be happy and wants to just have a good time here, not argue about shit. I didn't see her/him at all in that thread and often times just says she doesn't hold any opinion on my daily questions thread.

Everything you said, from your thread to this point I'm replying to, circles around the idea that arguing about one's position makes that individual "a non-NPC". It really gives off the smells of that. Even if they're a NPC, what's exactly wrong with that? You very likely don't even know if this is their fake side or their real side, based on what they say in a public forum. You only make those assumptions based on your apparent core idea of what makes someone an individual unique.

As for the lie you said exists here, I can only talk about myself here and personally, I just don't care. I never really cared for it, besides the one time I tried to become "the president of OT". I failed miserably and at the time I was hurt, but now I realize it isn't important in the slightest compared to losing a friend, even if he is an online one.

Let's just agree to disagree on this. If you don't like it here, go find a place where people aren't NPCs, as you say.

Winnyace wrote: 182q6t

Let's just agree to disagree on this. If you don't like it here, go find a place where people aren't NPCs, as you say.

He is not saying we must behave like that, he is saying that we should. He isnt trying to change people, he is just saying that we should be more open about negativity

Yes, not all NPC's are carbon copy of each other, thing is, they're all based on the same principles, and those principles bring toxicity and creates massive echo chambers inside OT.

Again, as I say, thing like "respecting OT lore" while completely not doing this, being so positive that the praise you give can hurt other people, people just being afraid of giving their own personal opinion on things because "Oh I will form a disscussion and people will hate me for it"

Also, lostsilver is fine since they're a child, the things i'm more worried about are stuff like the NO SWEARING THREAD and just people not reading my thread and going "but we still love you <3333333", like, you're trying to act positive and say that you care about me while also not reading my threads and hearing me out, that is straight up lying and can hurt people. My point is that by just being more understasnding in OT to different opinions and being honest with the things we care and do not care in OT, we can create a BETTER environment, not just everyone acting with the same 3 principles which are actually damaging

I say you're fine because you DON'T follow those principles and aren't afraid of actually saying whatever you want, even if you get a little bit too angry sometimes

I also want people to punch back, like, as that thread shows, i've been an asshole in OT for the longest time, and literally no one called me out, and whenever I did make an entire thread insulting other OT s, people still didn't call me out. You guys SHOULD NOT keep uip with my shit or anyone's else shit if they're acting like I act from time to time, it's actually going to improve your life

i'll rather not walk into a reddit/twitter-tier forum when 2024 inevitably goes to shit

i think most people on OT don't want to be open about negativity because shit like this happens

Cute gif

Patatitta wrote: 5t25

I also want people to punch back, like, as that thread shows, i've been an asshole in OT for the longest time, and literally no one called me out, and whenever I did make an entire thread insulting other OT s, people still didn't call me out. You guys SHOULD NOT keep uip with my shit or anyone's else shit if they're acting like I act from time to time, it's actually going to improve your life

Or they can just completely ignore you because you aren't important to them IRL. You're just a spanish guy being an asshole online. They can just forget about you said.

Reyalp51 wrote: 3o2r5d

Winnyace wrote: 182q6t

Let's just agree to disagree on this. If you don't like it here, go find a place where people aren't NPCs, as you say.

He is not saying we must behave like that, he is saying that we should. He isnt trying to change people, he is just saying that we should be more open about negativity

I don't think anyone here really opposites it, it's just that no one starts it.

Winnyace wrote: 182q6t

Patatitta wrote: 5t25

I also want people to punch back, like, as that thread shows, i've been an asshole in OT for the longest time, and literally no one called me out, and whenever I did make an entire thread insulting other OT s, people still didn't call me out. You guys SHOULD NOT keep uip with my shit or anyone's else shit if they're acting like I act from time to time, it's actually going to improve your life

Or they can just completely ignore you because you aren't important to them IRL. You're just a spanish guy being an asshole online. They can just forget about you said.

thing is that instead of just totally ignoring me, they just still act like if like really cool and that I should not listen to the people and etc etc, something which I did not deserve, If i'm toxic, I want people to call me out and not put up with my shit, not just people trying to ignore it and act like if i'm cool because they dont want to have bad vibes with me

The way OT is seen makes it so very few people get taken seriously here, I think.

Winnyace wrote: 182q6t

The way OT is seen makes it so very few people get taken seriously here, I think.

i agree with this. i honestly thought patatita's negativity thread was a joke ngl

sametdze wrote: 1l1a4s

Winnyace wrote: 182q6t

The way OT is seen makes it so very few people get taken seriously here, I think.

i agree with this. i honestly thought patatita's negativity thread was a joke ngl

nah that thread was in fact a joke, at least half of it

with me being an asshole I mean like me making that entire fandom thread to really call out the people that were posting about FNAF and now BFDI and that sort of stuff, people like anaxii which I call out every single other day still has to really defend themselves or tell me to stop insulting them every other day, stuff like my 2 years and a half in where I was very agressive and people still went like "We love you!!!!!!", that sort of stuff

You just said a few replies ago that you were acting like an asshole to get people riled up and now that thread, which was the biggest thread that could have landed you in hot waters that you did is a joke? You are really all over the place with whatever you're saying. I honestly believe you just want shit so you can laugh at it. Go on Twitter and find shit there. With this, I will stop replying to whatever you guys are saying here.

Winnyace wrote: 182q6t

You just said a few replies ago that you were acting like an asshole to get people riled up and now that thread, which was the biggest thread that could have landed you in hot waters that you did is a joke? You are really all over the place with whatever you're saying. I honestly believe you just want shit so you can laugh at it. Go on Twitter and find shit there. With this, I will stop replying to whatever you guys are saying here.

I literally gave examples of where I was being an asshole, only in a edit but because I wanetd to clarify my point after the fact, still, I think the edit being like 2 second before this post makes my point clear that i'm not trying to clear stuff up

A spaniard causing drama for a reason in a place where people kinda just don't give two pears? Well if I haven't seen it three times then a fourth shall do.

Also now that you mention it WinAce, this place is a chill place (even if some threads can get kinda quirky)

Kobold84 wrote: 4c5ma

Since when being positive is bad @Patatitta?

Corne2Plum3 wrote: 3y1z1p

Since when being positive is bad @Patatitta?

being positive is not always negative of course, that is why positivity exists, however, being positive doesn't always mean good things either, for example, acting positive when someone is actively talking shit to you is not a good thing

from wikipedia:

"Toxic positivity happens when people believe that negative thoughts about anything should be avoided"

Patatitta wrote: 5t25

you guys STILL don't get my point


in basic, my point is dont act so positive the entire time. I'm not saying "we should have intellectual debate in OT", it's, don't fucking act like npc. Everyone in OT acts the same since no one wants to act differently. Feel free to just say "hey this thread is bad" or "I disagree with this". Not only that, but everyone claims that they have certain values like caring for OT lore, while this is a blatant lie.

That thread is critizicing people like my angel anaxii, NOT you, I actually said in my thread thaet YOU were one of the people that were completely fine as you actually did complain about shit and were yourself in the thread

I mean, bruh, if it was possible without any risks, I would sh*t on russian(not only osu player)s a lot

And not in a very family friendly way

But since rules are rules I try to keep my temper

About the 'bad threads', I think if some shitty thread pops up, people do say something like 'wtf is this?'

And about criticizing others, as one song goes: '🎵I dooon't CAAARE🎵'. I mean, honestly, what the person does or doesn't is none of my business. If whoever you're talking about lives in a delusion about how OT is so good and friendly, I just let them think so

Dementedjet wrote: 513e4t

Patatitta wrote: 5t25

you guys STILL don't get my point


in basic, my point is dont act so positive the entire time. I'm not saying "we should have intellectual debate in OT", it's, don't fucking act like npc. Everyone in OT acts the same since no one wants to act differently. Feel free to just say "hey this thread is bad" or "I disagree with this". Not only that, but everyone claims that they have certain values like caring for OT lore, while this is a blatant lie.

That thread is critizicing people like my angel anaxii, NOT you, I actually said in my thread thaet YOU were one of the people that were completely fine as you actually did complain about shit and were yourself in the thread

I mean, bruh, if it was possible without any risks, I would sh*t on russian(not only osu player)s a lot

And not in a very family friendly way

But since rules are rules I try to keep my temper

About the 'bad threads', I think if some shitty thread pops up, people do say something like 'wtf is this?'

And about criticizing others, as one song goes: '🎵I dooon't CAAARE🎵'. I mean, honestly, what the person does or doesn't is none of my business. If whoever you're talking about lives in a delusion about how OT is so good and friendly, I just let them think so

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Patatitta wrote: 5t25

Winnyace wrote: 182q6t

You just said a few replies ago that you were acting like an asshole to get people riled up and now that thread, which was the biggest thread that could have landed you in hot waters that you did is a joke? You are really all over the place with whatever you're saying. I honestly believe you just want shit so you can laugh at it. Go on Twitter and find shit there. With this, I will stop replying to whatever you guys are saying here.

I literally gave examples of where I was being an asshole, only in a edit but because I wanetd to clarify my point after the fact, still, I think the edit being like 2 second before this post makes my point clear that i'm not trying to clear stuff up

its ok man, we still love you potato <3

cephaphysic wrote: 1o5144

Patatitta wrote: 5t25

Winnyace wrote: 182q6t

Patatitta wrote: 5t25

I also want people to punch back, like, as that thread shows, i've been an asshole in OT for the longest time, and literally no one called me out, and whenever I did make an entire thread insulting other OT s, people still didn't call me out. You guys SHOULD NOT keep uip with my shit or anyone's else shit if they're acting like I act from time to time, it's actually going to improve your life

Or they can just completely ignore you because you aren't important to them IRL. You're just a spanish guy being an asshole online. They can just forget about you said.

thing is that instead of just totally ignoring me, they just still act like if like really cool and that I should not listen to the people and etc etc, something which I did not deserve, If i'm toxic, I want people to call me out and not put up with my shit, not just people trying to ignore it and act like if i'm cool because they dont want to have bad vibes with me

i think you need to understand that most people are either misinterpreting your insults as banter (doesn't help that the negativity thread, a thread intended as a joke for the most part, exists), making fun of you, or see that you're clearly going through something and don't want to make it worse, hence the "love you <3" messages in your initial thread. that last one is a response coming from genuine comion, not people refusing to see you in a negative light

in fact, i'm inclined to believe you plain can't comprehend people responding to a situation in a way you wouldn't without it somehow being "fake" or something otherwise being wrong with them. once this thing's over i'm probably just going to leave you blocked and move on with my life, because i was already getting sick of you, and this nonsense has only given me more reason to commit to it. the only thing pushing me to bother with you is the fact that something feels incomplete, and my brain hates it. otherwise, my energy is better spent somewhere else

that second paragraph was the one thing I was looking for, if i'm being an asshole, block me, that is my whole fucking point, don't just keep acting positive towards me, don't bottle up your emotions, just take action if you feel it would be positive to take action, this will improve your life

hey patata i dont want you to leave ot

So you want some punch?

Okay, tell me your thoughts about me then, I dare you.

Reyalp51 wrote: 3o2r5d

hey patata i dont want you to leave ot

i'm not

Corne2Plum3 wrote: 3y1z1p

So you want some punch?

Okay, tell me your thoughts about me then, I dare you.

I think you're a pretty chill guy even if you lack a little bit of commitement as a GMT, I believe my last thread should have been wastelanded, not just locked. For example abraker locked A LOT more than you, so yeah, I think there may also be some things there

also you're 100% a closeted furry

Patatitta wrote: 5t25

Reyalp51 wrote: 3o2r5d

hey patata i dont want you to leave ot

i'm not

Good, i consider you as a friend and i dont want that to happen. I think this all happen cuz everyone misunderstood your thread and what purpose it had

Reyalp51 wrote: 3o2r5d

Patatitta wrote: 5t25

Reyalp51 wrote: 3o2r5d

hey patata i dont want you to leave ot

i'm not

Good, i consider you as a friend and i dont want that to happen. I think this all happen cuz everyone misunderstood your thread and what purpose it had

yeah that is what I noticed, but whatever, i'm still going to post on OT as long as I play osu! itself, you're on the clear too

- Marco - wrote: 6a4s1t

Kobold84 wrote: 4c5ma

ot NPC tier list

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

ot NPC tier list

ngl I was considering it but I think I better not or else I will get exiled LMAO

Patatitta wrote: 5t25

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

ot NPC tier list

ngl I was considering it but I think I better not or else I will get exiled LMAO

Dew it.

Kobold84 wrote: 4c5ma

Patatitta wrote: 5t25

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

ot NPC tier list

ngl I was considering it but I think I better not or else I will get exiled LMAO

Dew it.

Kobold84 wrote: 4c5ma

Patatitta wrote: 5t25

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

ot NPC tier list

ngl I was considering it but I think I better not or else I will get exiled LMAO

Dew it.

alright, in a few hours I will make it but i'm not taking responsability for it

Patatitta wrote: 5t25

Kobold84 wrote: 4c5ma

Patatitta wrote: 5t25

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

ot NPC tier list

ngl I was considering it but I think I better not or else I will get exiled LMAO

Dew it.

alright, in a few hours I will make it but i'm not taking responsability for it

Patatitta wrote: 5t25

Kobold84 wrote: 4c5ma

Patatitta wrote: 5t25

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

ot NPC tier list

ngl I was considering it but I think I better not or else I will get exiled LMAO

Dew it.

alright, in a few hours I will make it but i'm not taking responsability for it

what would be the criteria?

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

Patatitta wrote: 5t25

Kobold84 wrote: 4c5ma

Patatitta wrote: 5t25

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

ot NPC tier list

ngl I was considering it but I think I better not or else I will get exiled LMAO

Dew it.

alright, in a few hours I will make it but i'm not taking responsability for it

what would be the criteria?

my own personal and totally biased opinion

mf is gonna take thread of the month again

Corne2Plum3 wrote: 3y1z1p

So you want some punch?

Okay, tell me your thoughts about me then, I dare you.

If you insist, very well. I actually have some . As a GMT (you), I don't really notice much air of professionalism from you. Most of the mod actions I saw you take are followed by childish remarks or made as if having a grudge. Your "zoomer grammar" doesn't help you look professional either. I also don't really agree with some thread locks you make on some genuinely fun threads to participate. In general, you give an air of arrogance too for some reason.

Again, this is just my opinion.

KatouMegumi wrote: 4d5u5e

Corne2Plum3 wrote: 3y1z1p

So you want some punch?

Okay, tell me your thoughts about me then, I dare you.

If you insist, very well. I actually have some . As a GMT (you), I don't really notice much air of professionalism from you. Most of the mod actions I saw you take are followed by childish remarks or made as if having a grudge. Your "zoomer grammar" doesn't help you look professional either. I also don't really agree with some thread locks you make on some genuinely fun threads to participate. In general, you give an air of arrogance too for some reason.

Again, this is just my opinion.

He wastedlanded my cat sex thread

Reyalp51 wrote: 3o2r5d

KatouMegumi wrote: 4d5u5e

Corne2Plum3 wrote: 3y1z1p

So you want some punch?

Okay, tell me your thoughts about me then, I dare you.

If you insist, very well. I actually have some . As a GMT (you), I don't really notice much air of professionalism from you. Most of the mod actions I saw you take are followed by childish remarks or made as if having a grudge. Your "zoomer grammar" doesn't help you look professional either. I also don't really agree with some thread locks you make on some genuinely fun threads to participate. In general, you give an air of arrogance too for some reason.

Again, this is just my opinion.

He wastedlanded my cat sex thread

Not the cat sex thread… How could he?

Hydreigon wrote: 5z4u4o

man i want to post my thoughts, but im so tired today, but ill just write what my brain can so…

Aight so…

Patatitta wrote: 5t25

in basic, my point is dont act so positive the entire time. I'm not saying "we should have intellectual debate in OT", it's, don't fucking act like npc. Everyone in OT acts the same since no one wants to act differently. Feel free to just say "hey this thread is bad" or "I disagree with this". Not only that, but everyone claims that they have certain values like caring for OT lore, while this is a blatant lie.

That thread is critizicing people like my angel anaxii, NOT you, I actually said in my thread thaet YOU were one of the people that were completely fine as you actually did complain about shit and were yourself in the thread

I do think being somewhat negative from time to time can be somewhat helpful, as for both you and the person your criticizing as long as its somewhat reasonable, and not just pure blatant hate and stuff
Cause if it just crosses the line, then i suppose less people will take you seriously and just think your a troll

I do have some thoughts and criticism for some of the people of OT, but really i just dont really want to post about it because most likely,its either that someone already posted my thoughts or there just probably gonna just ignore it anyways and say they dont care or are like self aware about it or something
like i do give criticism sometimes but rarely on attacking the person, and more so on the action they just did.

It is true that i care less for the OT lore nowadays, as less people are interested in it lessening my motivation and the fact that im more busy compared to before, which sucks tbh, maybe i could try to reignite it, and maybe make some fun threads, but really, it all just depends if it all works or not…
As you said in your other thread about OT chronicles and Vahalla of OT, people dont really care anymore about it, back then, lots of peeps wanted to be included in the chronicle, now that isnt the case as the last update was months ago, and more peeps are just interested solely on the denizen status.

Karmine also summarizes the other thread pretty well:

”The point is that no one cares about anyone else and only post for themselves, rendering everything useless and forgettable.
Things would be more interesting if there were some debates (call it drama if you will) from time to time, we could see how there are actually different people who interact with each other and not just NPCs.”

While drama/debates can be interesting, it really just depends though as some drama can be somewhat too serious, but if you like that sort of thing, then twitter and reddits do have lots of that kind of bickering there i suppose…

and there are other ways to make ot more interesting other than debates, such as games, the ot lore, etc.
It just also depend eh on the people if they want to contribute or not..

anyways

so yeah…

Same basically, I don't really criticise people/what they do unless they're really annoying (which is something personal and not everyone may agree).
I honestly don't care that much that people are NPCs but it would be more interesting if there were more actual discussions (not necessarily negative or drama, just normal discussion on a topic) instead of just shitpost.
I usually like threads that include people from OT, turns everyone into a character sort of.

Karmine wrote: 6c5h1b

Hydreigon wrote: 5z4u4o

man i want to post my thoughts, but im so tired today, but ill just write what my brain can so…

Aight so…

Patatitta wrote: 5t25

in basic, my point is dont act so positive the entire time. I'm not saying "we should have intellectual debate in OT", it's, don't fucking act like npc. Everyone in OT acts the same since no one wants to act differently. Feel free to just say "hey this thread is bad" or "I disagree with this". Not only that, but everyone claims that they have certain values like caring for OT lore, while this is a blatant lie.

That thread is critizicing people like my angel anaxii, NOT you, I actually said in my thread thaet YOU were one of the people that were completely fine as you actually did complain about shit and were yourself in the thread

I do think being somewhat negative from time to time can be somewhat helpful, as for both you and the person your criticizing as long as its somewhat reasonable, and not just pure blatant hate and stuff
Cause if it just crosses the line, then i suppose less people will take you seriously and just think your a troll

I do have some thoughts and criticism for some of the people of OT, but really i just dont really want to post about it because most likely,its either that someone already posted my thoughts or there just probably gonna just ignore it anyways and say they dont care or are like self aware about it or something
like i do give criticism sometimes but rarely on attacking the person, and more so on the action they just did.

It is true that i care less for the OT lore nowadays, as less people are interested in it lessening my motivation and the fact that im more busy compared to before, which sucks tbh, maybe i could try to reignite it, and maybe make some fun threads, but really, it all just depends if it all works or not…
As you said in your other thread about OT chronicles and Vahalla of OT, people dont really care anymore about it, back then, lots of peeps wanted to be included in the chronicle, now that isnt the case as the last update was months ago, and more peeps are just interested solely on the denizen status.

Karmine also summarizes the other thread pretty well:

”The point is that no one cares about anyone else and only post for themselves, rendering everything useless and forgettable.
Things would be more interesting if there were some debates (call it drama if you will) from time to time, we could see how there are actually different people who interact with each other and not just NPCs.”

While drama/debates can be interesting, it really just depends though as some drama can be somewhat too serious, but if you like that sort of thing, then twitter and reddits do have lots of that kind of bickering there i suppose…

and there are other ways to make ot more interesting other than debates, such as games, the ot lore, etc.
It just also depend eh on the people if they want to contribute or not..

anyways

so yeah…

Same basically, I don't really criticise people/what they do unless they're really annoying (which is something personal and not everyone may agree).
I honestly don't care that much that people are NPCs but it would be more interesting if there were more actual discussions (not necessarily negative or drama, just normal discussion on a topic) instead of just shitpost.
I usually like threads that include people from OT, turns everyone into a character sort of.

I think this was theoretically supposed to be GD... if it worked.

I did not want to type any sort of message or remarks or thoughts here. Because that may upscale all of this.



But please every member is an important part of the community. JUST STOP PLEASE. I fucking hate drama and shit and don't want to get in any of it. So please everyone stop. Don't know why but maybe locking this will make this go away.

maybe it would. Just maybe. And
.... Yeah.

This seems like a waste of time thread

Derail it. There's no connecting point that imo I see. Please derail it guys. Both of the party are just not agreeing with each other. Plus some of the people are getting dragged into it.

JUST DERAIL IT IMO.

Rhythm32 wrote: 5ti6u

Derail it. There's no connecting point that imo I see. Please derail it guys. Both of the party are just not agreeing with each other. Plus some of the people are getting dragged into it.

JUST DERAIL IT IMO.

just to calm you, I don't hate anyone here, I dislike how some people act, but nothing is personal, you don't need to be like that

Behrauder wrote: 3k4k5m

Karmine wrote: 6c5h1b

Hydreigon wrote: 5z4u4o

man i want to post my thoughts, but im so tired today, but ill just write what my brain can so…

Aight so…

Patatitta wrote: 5t25

in basic, my point is dont act so positive the entire time. I'm not saying "we should have intellectual debate in OT", it's, don't fucking act like npc. Everyone in OT acts the same since no one wants to act differently. Feel free to just say "hey this thread is bad" or "I disagree with this". Not only that, but everyone claims that they have certain values like caring for OT lore, while this is a blatant lie.

That thread is critizicing people like my angel anaxii, NOT you, I actually said in my thread thaet YOU were one of the people that were completely fine as you actually did complain about shit and were yourself in the thread

I do think being somewhat negative from time to time can be somewhat helpful, as for both you and the person your criticizing as long as its somewhat reasonable, and not just pure blatant hate and stuff
Cause if it just crosses the line, then i suppose less people will take you seriously and just think your a troll

I do have some thoughts and criticism for some of the people of OT, but really i just dont really want to post about it because most likely,its either that someone already posted my thoughts or there just probably gonna just ignore it anyways and say they dont care or are like self aware about it or something
like i do give criticism sometimes but rarely on attacking the person, and more so on the action they just did.

It is true that i care less for the OT lore nowadays, as less people are interested in it lessening my motivation and the fact that im more busy compared to before, which sucks tbh, maybe i could try to reignite it, and maybe make some fun threads, but really, it all just depends if it all works or not…
As you said in your other thread about OT chronicles and Vahalla of OT, people dont really care anymore about it, back then, lots of peeps wanted to be included in the chronicle, now that isnt the case as the last update was months ago, and more peeps are just interested solely on the denizen status.

Karmine also summarizes the other thread pretty well:

”The point is that no one cares about anyone else and only post for themselves, rendering everything useless and forgettable.
Things would be more interesting if there were some debates (call it drama if you will) from time to time, we could see how there are actually different people who interact with each other and not just NPCs.”

While drama/debates can be interesting, it really just depends though as some drama can be somewhat too serious, but if you like that sort of thing, then twitter and reddits do have lots of that kind of bickering there i suppose…

and there are other ways to make ot more interesting other than debates, such as games, the ot lore, etc.
It just also depend eh on the people if they want to contribute or not..

anyways

so yeah…

Same basically, I don't really criticise people/what they do unless they're really annoying (which is something personal and not everyone may agree).
I honestly don't care that much that people are NPCs but it would be more interesting if there were more actual discussions (not necessarily negative or drama, just normal discussion on a topic) instead of just shitpost.
I usually like threads that include people from OT, turns everyone into a character sort of.

I think this was theoretically supposed to be GD... if it worked.

Yeah GD is supposed to be "anything non-osu!" and OT for "the not-so-logical discussions" but in the end OT is basically what both GD and OT are supposed to be and GD is where people post when they can't be bothered posting in the right forum.

Rhythm32 wrote: 5ti6u

I did not want to type any sort of message or remarks or thoughts here. Because that may upscale all of this.



But please every member is an important part of the community. JUST STOP PLEASE. I fucking hate drama and shit and don't want to get in any of it. So please everyone stop. Don't know why but maybe locking this will make this go away.

maybe it would. Just maybe. And
.... Yeah.

This is literally the problem Patatita is talking about.
This thread has some people discussing something (their view on OT people), some are trolling, some are kinda derailing. It's how a normal active thread should be, there's no drama (go have a look at mapping drama to see what it's really like). It looks like you want it locked and instead want every thread to just be something no one will care about enough to reply with something interesting or create an actual discussion.

BlueChinchompa wrote: 16653w

This seems like a waste of time thread to me.

Your not obliged/forced to read every thread here.

If you dont want to waste your time, then dont read the thread…?

-

Karmine wrote: 6c5h1b

Behrauder wrote: 3k4k5m

I think this was theoretically supposed to be GD... if it worked.

Yeah GD is supposed to be "anything non-osu!" and OT for "the not-so-logical discussions" but in the end OT is basically what both GD and OT are supposed to be and GD is where people post when they can't be bothered posting in the right forum.

plus we are much superior here compared to GD 😎

Hydreigon wrote: 5z4u4o

Karmine wrote: 6c5h1b

Behrauder wrote: 3k4k5m

I think this was theoretically supposed to be GD... if it worked.

Yeah GD is supposed to be "anything non-osu!" and OT for "the not-so-logical discussions" but in the end OT is basically what both GD and OT are supposed to be and GD is where people post when they can't be bothered posting in the right forum.

plus we are much superior here compared to GD 😎

Karmine wrote: 6c5h1b

Rhythm32 wrote: 5ti6u

I did not want to type any sort of message or remarks or thoughts here. Because that may upscale all of this.

By "fail" I don't mean that they are not capable of creating such threads. It's just that they sometimes don't put their mind and though to it. Just my way of saying it.



But please every member is an important part of the community. JUST STOP PLEASE. I fucking hate drama and shit and don't want to get in any of it. So please everyone stop. Don't know why but maybe locking this will make this go away.

maybe it would. Just maybe. And
.... Yeah.

This is literally the problem Patatita is talking about.
This thread has some people discussing something (their view on OT people), some are trolling, some are kinda derailing. It's how a normal active thread should be, there's no drama (go have a look at mapping drama to see what it's really like). It looks like you want it locked and instead want every thread to just be something no one will care about enough to reply with something interesting or create an actual discussion.

I now know. Thanks. I mean, being yourself is far more important then acting someway because you feel like you won't fit in. You don't have to fit in. OT is a place where conversations and stuff are supposed to be illogical and silly. And yeah. I've also noticed that many people fail to create a high quality thread and there are some of those which don't get recognisation. Everyone has their own opinion about certain people and subjects. All of us need to address it and respect every part of it. Cause in the end of the day we are a part of a community of millions of players.

This thread is still going? Crazy

Well, I got what I wished for when I made this thread. I'm starting to make up with that friend of mine, so I honestly kinda don't care anymore. I haven't bothered fully reading anything you guys said. I'm sure it is well indented, but I am honestly just here to make friends and chill, not get angry for whatever reason or argue every time I come here. I don't make good threads, I don't make good replies, but it ultimately doesn't matter.

Winnyace wrote: 182q6t

Well, I got what I wished for when I made this thread. I'm starting to make up with that friend of mine, so I honestly kinda don't care anymore. I haven't bothered fully reading anything you guys said. I'm sure it is well indented, but I am honestly just here to make friends and chill, not get angry for whatever reason or argue every time I come here. I don't make good threads, I don't make good replies, but it ultimately doesn't matter.

let's be mutual friends (◕ᴗ◕✿)

Okay. I guess sure

Winnyace wrote: 182q6t

Okay. I guess sure

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

Winnyace wrote: 182q6t

Okay. I guess sure

Omori (Winnyace) and Sunny (igorsprite) are finally friends!

bro literally 90% of u guys here are kids

Zain Sugieres wrote: 2n3vj

bro literally 90% of u guys here are kids

Your not wrong (I am that 10%)

I was thinking if I wanted make a response to any of this or not, but after reading this one post this post I have to respond to it specifically. I know it's just a random opinion but idk I just find it kinda weird? SO here's my opinions:

KatouMegumi wrote: 4d5u5e

As a GMT (you), I don't really notice much air of professionalism from you.

What I personally really like about how OT is modded is how approachable and integrated GMTs feel. In a lot of other online spaces that are big enough to have dedicated moderation that I've been in at least, mods feel like a separate entity from the rest of the community, put there to exclusively delete NSFW posts and make announcements about rule changes and whatever. This is also how it feels in most of the other subforums in the osu forums, but OT feels different. The mods here feel like anybody else that's here, to the point that the "Global " tag has nearly completely lost it's weight for me.

Yeah you can definitely be a that's fully a part of the community and be professional with your modding duties, and I will agree that Corne doesn't have much professionalism which it would be nice if he had more of in certain cases, and I will also say that professionalism would be very good in cases above a certain seriousness threshold, but I personally don't really care about professionalism because I think professionalism in OT in the vast majority of cases isn't important, and I think it's cool how the mods aren't incredibly professional, which makes them feel more like a part of the community I think.

KatouMegumi wrote: 4d5u5e

Most of the mod actions I saw you take are followed by childish remarks or made as if having a grudge.

I guess Corne likes to make jokes and non-serious remarks when doing mod actions, but again, I don't think it's important in the vast majority of cases and I also think it's kinda neat. Not really sure how things come off as "childish", I guess for me the way Corne speaks is kinda childish maybe, but I don't really get any real "childish" vibes from anything else, nor do I feel being a bit childish is an issue if you do your job properly and are serious and mature when those things are needed, which I feel Corne is for the most part. Also I'm not sure what you mean by him making mod actions "as if having a grudge".

KatouMegumi wrote: 4d5u5e

Your "zoomer grammar" doesn't help you look professional either.

What do you mean by "zoomer grammar"? Under my personal definition of what "zoomer grammar" is, the only two people that I can think of that post regularly in OT and use "zoomer grammar" outside of making "zoomer grammar" jokes is me and Jarcrafted, maybe Dementedduck (and looking at this thread, Reyalp)? Not Corne though. And again, I wouldn't really care if Corne used "zoomer grammar" or not as long as he does his job as a mod well.

KatouMegumi wrote: 4d5u5e

I also don't really agree with some thread locks you make on some genuinely fun threads to participate.

Yeah also I don't really agree with some of Corne's locks, but honestly with how locks are treated in OT, outside of stuff that blatantly goes against the rules locks really do feel like they're to be used however the fuck the mod wants, and I don't really mind because no-one goes overboard with it. In fact I think the way locks are looked at in OT is actually really cool, like they've ascended just being a modding tool to stop rule-breaking threads and into a cool concept that feels like part of the culture. It's to the point that Abraker can do meta-roleplay by locking the entire front page and it's actually really fun instead of annoying, and a lot of threads that eventually get locked have people joking about how the thread should be locked before a mod follows up, like locking is a shared, communal, cultural thing instead of something only restricted to mods. Basically all this to say I don't really mind Corne's locks because he doesn't go overboard and they fit in with the culture of OT overall.

KatouMegumi wrote: 4d5u5e

In general, you give an air of arrogance too for some reason.

No? For me Abraker (and also a lot of the s from older generations) feels 100x worse in of arrogance and it's not to the point where I care at all.



While I do this I might as well do the other opinion of Corne

Patatitta wrote: 5t25

you lack a little bit of commitement as a GMT

I don't think so personally, I feel like Corne is very active and does modding activities when they are needed, just I guess in a more lenient manner than Abraker. This dude is on OT every day multiple times a day idk that feels like enough commitment for me. Or maybe you mean this in a way that I'll talk about later then I agree

Patatitta wrote: 5t25

also you're 100% a closeted furry

yes



And also give some criticism myself:

The only thing I feel like I can really say is that I don't really like how you haven't really done anything with OT once you became it's overlord. Like Abraker felt like kinda the heart and soul of OT even though I wasn't around for most of it, half the most notable threads were made by him attempting to chronicle everything, and he's been a driving force in stuff like roleplay (which I guess is mostly a relic of the past now), and he's made lots of great threads, even nowadays with the board-game thread, while idk it feels you haven't done much of anything outside of the OT book (more on this later) and simple moderation. I definitely don't think this should be any sort of obligation, I think as long as you do the job of moderation properly all is well, but it would be really cool to see what Corne2plum3's OT could be, beyond you just leaving OT to it's own devices like how you do nowadays.

I don't want to bash you for doing barely anything for OT overall while completely ignoring what you've done for the OT Book so I just wanted to say your contributions to the OT Book are actually goated, like this shit would've literally died like 5 times over without you around, I am 100% not reliable enough to run something by myself



As for the other stuff patatitta if you want my take then I'll guess I'll respond to it, otherwise I wont

From a purely observational standpoint, Corne is a more lenient GMT of OT, however I no longer see it as a bad thing. Sure, I miss Abraker's strict locking policy, but now that we're in a relaxed generation more accepting of newcomers, I don't think Corne has to follow suit. Also, we've got 2 GMT's in OT now, so a lot has changed.

As for Corne's contributions to OT, I disagree with Yoony's take. Without Corne's involvement in the denizenship committee, there would be no way for us to continue that tradition. Corne also occasionally helps in the upkeeping of other projects too. The only reason it looks like Corne doesn't make good threads, it's because he is heavily involved in a project, but isn't the one who makes the thread for it.

I'd also argue that "leaving OT to it's own devices" is Corne2plum3's OT. If he kept locking threads like Abraker did, it would just be Abraker's OT.

Kobold84 wrote: 4c5ma

G-Got any for me? Don't matter the flavor, pix is not picky.

Zain Sugieres wrote: 2n3vj

bro literally 90% of u guys here are kids

Poop yourself LoL enjoyer

Ymir wrote: 2z2l6t

As for Corne's contributions to OT, I disagree with Yoony's take. Without Corne's involvement in the denizenship committee, there would be no way for us to continue that tradition. Corne also occasionally helps in the upkeeping of other projects too. The only reason it looks like Corne doesn't make good threads, it's because he is heavily involved in a project, but isn't the one who makes the thread for it.

I see, I didn't know that Corne did all this other stuff for OT. Not sure what this "project" is, but it does feel like you've been teasing some sorta project for a while, and if it's the same one and taking this long it must be massive and pretty cool.

Ymir wrote: 2z2l6t

I'd also argue that "leaving OT to it's own devices" is Corne2plum3's OT. If he kept locking threads like Abraker did, it would just be Abraker's OT.

I still kinda stand by my old point though, yeah maybe we can see "leaving OT to it's own devices" as Corne's OT, but in my opinion this is probably the most boring way to run OT if all Corne does is background stuff, like I feel anyone could do this and it'd be the same. Maybe this all completely changes with the "project", idk. I also want to make it clear that I have 0 problems with this and like OT as it is now, just that it'd be cooler if there was some more stuff to spice things up, maybe from the person who has the biggest combination of being the most active and has the most amount of power. But I feel like it's kinda an unrealistic ask to ask Corne to spend more time/creativity on OT with seeing everything Corne does now which I didn't know about.

I thought we were punching Corne why are we gassing him up

Uhh your name is annoying because every time I think of "Bkornblume" from Reverse 1999 I automatically put a 2 in the middle like "Bkorn2plume" like fuck off get out of my head