abraker wrote: 6cx2d

NotRaffi wrote: 171b11

Yeah uh anyways, im a fruit vendor i can give fruits to people

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

Vote Count 1.FINAL

bambinex (5): abraker, samX500, ClevelandsMyBro, ShinRun, bambinex.
Not Voting (4): Yhuan Debeste, Amianki, pentaqola, NotRaffi.

bambinex Town Enabled has been eliminated Day 1

abraker, samX500, ClevelandsMyBro, ShinRun and bambinex earned 1 Path Point

HOW IN THE ACTUAL FUCK LOL

Not Raffi is straight up lying. He couldn't have become fruit vendor cause he never earned a path point to do so.

Ohhhh shit

Raffi is capping so hard rn

oh jesus how did I miss that woowww

Vote: Notraffi

explain yourself

Considering it’s Raffi we’re talking about, there is a good chance he meant to say that one of his path is fruit vender

But I find this unlikely

NotRaffi wrote: 171b11

Yhuan Debeste wrote: 5h2o60

NotRaffi wrote: 171b11

Yeah uh anyways, im a fruit vendor i can give fruits to people

what does a fruit do

I don't know but i don't like the 2nd choice that much

this implies he actually picked the role

Yhuan Debeste wrote: 5h2o60

NotRaffi wrote: 171b11

Yhuan Debeste wrote: 5h2o60

NotRaffi wrote: 171b11

Yeah uh anyways, im a fruit vendor i can give fruits to people

what does a fruit do

I don't know but i don't like the 2nd choice that much

this implies he actually picked the role

Yep we definitely caught his ass in 4K

VOTE : NotRaffi

Guys I’m just voting in case the rest of you vote him out when I’m not present so I still get the point

However I want to hear Raffi explain himself so don’t vote him out yet

at this point I'lll just bm raffi

Also, if he did choose the role someone else should have received a notification since it’s a communication role

Wait I have a question first, do you instantly get to use the ability you unlock on the same night?

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

samX500 wrote: 4e1z5d

@Igorsprite We spend our path point during the night, but when does it take effect? It's not clear from the rules what the priority of ability is during the night.

You can use your ability the moment you unlocks it. Nightkills will be the last thing resolving.

okay raffi what the fuck

This man Raffi

The deeper we look, the more fucked he is

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

pentaqola wrote: 576830

bad news is i have no fucking idea if i picked a path or not. so this would mean i have either lost a path point or have a role stuck on me that i have no idea what it does or what it is anymore.

How the fuck does this even work? Igor needed to confirm he received the action from you. If you indeed picked a path and Igor has not confirmed, then Igor has committed an error.

Didn’t Penta say that her neg role is uninformed or smth

exactly

also update on that, igor said it's a mistake and changed the paths. now i don't know what the paths are

aaand i just ed that i never had path points in the first place. my memory was janky, cuz i do typing a post with the vote but never posting it

either way at least that role problem is resolved, and now i just gotta hope i don't get any bad roles when i pick

i will be waiting for raffi's explanation here too. the fact that he said he is a fruit vendor despite not voting and getting a point for the role is pretty suspicious

not sure if he also forgot the fact that only the people that voted for the person that got eliminated will get points, but i feel like he might say that

pentaqola wrote: 576830

i will be waiting for raffi's explanation here too. the fact that he said he is a fruit vendor despite not voting and getting a point for the role is pretty suspicious

not sure if he also forgot the fact that only the people that voted for the person that got eliminated will get points, but i feel like he might say that

there should be at least a confirmation right

from igor I mean when you spen point

Yhuan Debeste wrote: 5h2o60

from igor I mean when you spen point

there isn't, so thats a sign that i never had points lol

well that's something at least

@Cleveland if you vote raffi im gonna turn you into a pretzel. DONT VOTE or day will be over

Bro the 2nd choice lets people do things twice in a night, yall know that the scums are gonna use me and i won't even notice

Also he asked me to pick, if i can't he won't even give me the choices right?

NotRaffi wrote: 171b11

Also he asked me to pick, if i can't he won't even give me the choices right?

HE GAVE ME CHOICES TOO LAST NIGHT YOU IDIOT

From OP

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

- All Players only will be informed about their paths on Night 1.

????????????????????

I can't tell if you're actually ignorant or you blundered as scum either way you don't read things very well

Yhuan Debeste wrote: 5h2o60

From OP

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

- All Players only will be informed about their paths on Night 1.

????????????????????

Ah, i thought it was for me to choose, he even sent me the 🍎emoji so i thought it counts

THEN WTF DO YOU MEAN YOU HAVE A ROLE

I thought that it counts man, also i don't think im gonna pick the motivator thing

so what I'm getting is you don't actually have a role and you just thought that you have the role?

well did you at least try to use it on someone after you thought you got it?

No he did not asked for it, i thought day 1 was just for path choosing

I want you to read more okay...

well that's enough for me at least

UNVOTE

Yhuan Debeste wrote: 5h2o60

I want you to read more okay...

Yeah ight im re reading the rules

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

@Cleveland if you vote raffi im gonna turn you into a pretzel. DONT VOTE or day will be over

well after reading raffi's explanation, it honestly just looks like a misunderstanding. well as it seems.

@NotRaffi pay attention next time dummy dumdum

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

Fun fact: Of the two role choices I had, the other one was quitter. It's like...

Okay now I doubt that abraker is scum since there is no way Igor would give mafia the ability to quit the game

quitters are nearly always town, heavy emphasis on the keyword: nearly; mind you. this isn't a full way to confirm him as fully town with no doubt, but it does assure that he is not that much to worry about.

either way at least abraker did not pick that role, as i don't think quitters are going to be helpful in our scenario

Vote Count 2.1

Day 2 will end on October 27th at 1:00pm UTC-3

So Raffi was just being Raffi huh

UNVOTE

Bro what does that mean

Vote Count 2.2

Day 2 will end on October 27th at 1:00pm UTC-3

It means you being an idiot

Man

Vote: Yhuan Debeste

Vote Count 2.3

Day 2 will end on October 27th at 1:00pm UTC-3

Amianki wrote: 4f234j

Vote: Yhuan Debeste

this is so out of the blue. any reason?

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

Amianki wrote: 4f234j

Vote: Yhuan Debeste

this is so out of the blue. any reason?

I actually agree with this vote. Some people dont want to judge by neg roles, but cleveland has most anti-scum neg role. Additionally they were very quick to vote NotRaffi despite the depicate voting situation we have. Voting just because you want to be aggressive with the person is wrong strat from town perspective. You vote to pressure, and there was nothing to pressure with NotRaffi not having a chance to answer before you voted him.

fuck me, I mean to say yhuan has most anti-scum neg role

same pressuring thing goes for ShinRun btw. You two are on my scum list for being so quick to vote. If you know any better, town needs to coordinate votes instead of assuming it's going to be "first come first serve, loosers are slow" type of thing

Yhuan had the worst response to this whole debacle. It was way too overblown.

This game is pretty close to solved, if my reads are correct.

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

I actually agree with this vote. Some people dont want to judge by neg roles, but cleveland has most anti-scum neg role. Additionally they were very quick to vote NotRaffi despite the depicate voting situation we have. Voting just because you want to be aggressive with the person is wrong strat from town perspective. You vote to pressure, and there was nothing to pressure with NotRaffi not having a chance to answer before you voted him.

shit this is a super valid point.

also the fact that yhuan hasnt said anything about this just adds to this whole argument.

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

also the fact that yhuan hasnt said anything about this just adds to this whole argument.

they havent posted within 24h so they should be prod'd soon and we'll see a post from them then

been pretty tired lately, but i'll keep up.

yhuan does seem like a safe vote, after all they were really quick to jump into voting raffi when raffi was just being dumb for their own good. if raffi is town and yhuan is scum, i must say raffi doing that was really helpful

shin is probably just a bit dumb, yhuan managed to convince him after all. however i am not sure if this could be just two mafias acting together, just to try and help one seem innocent until the end.

thats my opinion on what abraker sees.

i do think mafia acting as of now would be way too risky for them to do and less likely done, it would certainly make more sense if there is less players.

I was caught up in the heat of the moment and rushed it

Well then.

too slow

Vote: Yhuan Debeste

unless this kid is not playing on purpose to mess up his own alignment and/or to have a good laugh, i dont see another possibility he is a townie

Skip prod

Let's plan out the votes before we rush and end the day

@Shin will you willing to vote when the time comes?

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

Let's plan out the votes before we rush and end the day

@Shin will you willing to vote when the time comes?

Well
Obviously

So Yhuan just refuse to say anything even tho he’s been prod

Vote Count 2.4

Day 2 will end in 29 hours.

Bruh

goddammit this guy makes me wanna trigger abraker to hammer him.

guess we will have to wait for the replacement, hopefully whoever they are would be willing to do something

Should we wait for replacement before voting him off?

NotRaffi wrote: 171b11

Should we wait for replacement before voting him off?

yes

well something isn't adding up. If he were scum, I'd expect someone to make a decent argument on why we shouldn't be quick to vote him off. Either Yhuan is being thrown under the bus or he isn't scum. Honestly both are equally likely hmmm

Amianki and ClevelandsMyBro are def not scum buddies with him. That much can be inferred. Shin can be ruled out judging by his response here. Penta's response to his prod was rash, but demonstrates no problems with him being voted off. The only person who showed an ounce of hesitation voting him off is NotRaffi, but not in the way that completely suggests he would not vote him off.

So Yhuan rushed to vote Raffi off but Raffi isn’t so keen on voting Yhuan off

Hey, I just don't want to get yelled at because the decision suddenly change later, should i vote now?

NotRaffi wrote: 171b11

Hey, I just don't want to get yelled at because the decision suddenly change later, should i vote now?

no

cause that will end the day. I auto hammer

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

So Yhuan rushed to vote Raffi off but Raffi isn’t so keen on voting Yhuan off

yea I guess that confirms Yhuan and Raffi scum is not likely

Honestly all this shows that Yhuan is more likely an incompetent townie like NotRaffi rather than scum

Amianki wrote: 4f234j

This game is pretty close to solved, if my reads are correct.

give me your reads

Scum are within Yhuan Debeste, ShinRun, and ClevelandsMyBro.

I have at least a moderate level townread on everybody else at this point.

i honestly think i made everyone suspicious of me by voting early lol. got way too ahead of myself yesterday.

still waiting.

also, yea i agree that my words were rash. i think its kinda dum for me to be like that

My reads:

NotRaffi - town
Yhuan - town
ShinRun - town
ClevelandsMyBro - town
pentaqola - town
Amianki - scum
ClevelandsMyBro - scum

Why? I have least info on interactions for penta and amianki. Let's go over the details.

Yhuan: Everybody was ready to vote Yhuan out, and not an inch of hesitation given. That's a red flag telling me somethings wrong. Yhuan is town.

ShinRun: His brains are so chock full of path points he is ready to vote any bandwagon. That's dumb but ain't scum.

NotRaffi: The role claim was done with a single brain cell. For more than one scum to agree such a plan is a good idea is ludicrous.

Penta: community/forums/posts/8344370 - "in fact, i would rather go with what shin said. vote out bambi, and if he ends up town then vote me out if you really want to." Scum would know bambi is town, hence never put a wager on that.

That leaves with Amianki and ClevelandsMyBro
Honestly, I am more comfortable voting out Cleveland first

vote: ClevelandsMyBro

lol I forgot to change penta -> Cleveland

had 3 people put down as scum then went back to read through things more carefully and found that post by penta, which changed my scum read on penta

why do you think i am scum abraker?

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

why do you think i am scum abraker?

process of elimination

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

lol I forgot to change penta -> Cleveland

had 3 people put down as scum then went back to read through things more carefully and found that post by penta, which changed my scum read on penta

im guessing you had me in the list before knowing that post because of how i expressed what i thought of yhuan. i'd say that is heavily understandable

in fact i thought that people are going to go for me next, considering bambi turned out to be town and im fine with having the toll of being voted off. so me getting this far without anyone voting for me yet is surprising.

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

why do you think i am scum abraker?

process of elimination

so what im getting here is you dont have much information ing if i am a town?

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

why do you think i am scum abraker?

process of elimination

so what im getting here is you dont have much information ing if i am a town?

more like I have more information ing everyone is else town than you and Amianki being town

you know what im just gonna drop a big fat fact bomb.

so lets start at the begining of D-2. i said i remove my neg role. i did remove it. i said both of the roles i was given was useless with my current neg role. while yes one of them is useless due to my neg role, the other one was useless in general.

one of the role was informed. it pretty much contributes nothing to the game.
second role is a 2-shots faith healer. this is the reason i chose to remove my neg role. with 50% chance of success + my then neg role, it would be an absolute miracle for it to work on someone last night.

this also corelate to why i decided to early vote yhuan. as i said here, i got to ahead of myself. i wanted to just grab that path point and the role. my mind was thinkiing if i were to get the points and use it on faith healer, then i would guaranteed be a town. as yhuan was pretty much backed up on the corner, i voted knowing that yhuan would definitely be voted out. it did not happen, and now im stuck in my current position.

and btw, yes i did try to bandwagon amianki's vote.

@igorsprite can I replace Yhuan even tho I died earlier in the game ?

If yes then you've found a replacement

that would be funny if you actually could replace someone despite being eliminated. its almost like reviving in a new form

still, would be neat if yes

Don't you already know who is scum and who isn't?

NotRaffi wrote: 171b11

Don't you already know who is scum and who isn't?

no

I only know my role path because I asked igor to show it to me but I'm dead anyway so this won't be useful

what happened to the indian guy?

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

@igorsprite can I replace Yhuan even tho I died earlier in the game ?

Vote Count 2.5
Day 2 extended by 24 hours.

Day 2 will end in 53 hours.

Ok so I am a townie which is pretty cool