replacement dodge

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

Well since this is new territory let's decide whether we should judge neg roles like that.

Imo we should because certain roles may give a massive advantage to scum if that's true. I simply don't believe the game would be set up to skew in favor of scum that bad.

I don't think we should do that because well that doesn't mean anything, like maybe igor just gave the negs randomly hence a townie could have a neg that is bad for scum, but the problem is that we don't know how igor has given the roles, so at least for now we shouldn't take them in

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

NotRaffi wrote: 171b11

Prod skip
Don't have anything to say

Amianki wrote: 4f234j

Dodge

Sorry, too much on my mind lately

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

Well since this is new territory let's decide whether we should judge neg roles like that.

Imo we should because certain roles may give a massive advantage to scum if that's true. I simply don't believe the game would be set up to skew in favor of scum that bad.

You two, thoughts on this?

I think it's mostly meaningless since we know very little about the setup currently. It's very hard to tell whether any of this is even relevant to alignment until we can be reasonably sure whether they tie into our abilities or not.

The fact that scum apparently don't have fake claims either indicates that there isn't much correlation between our negatives and alignment or that there isn't enough forethought put into each role as a whole to make it cohesive (which can be checked by what abilities everyone has available to them)

Amianki wrote: 4f234j

The fact that scum apparently don't have fake claims either indicates that there isn't much correlation between our negatives and alignment or that there isn't enough forethought put into each role as a whole to make it cohesive (which can be checked by what abilities everyone has available to them)

If you are right, then this worries me

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

So this is an interesting thought

1. Let's assume bambinex and penta are town
2. Based on bambinex's role, if penta is nk'd then scum can do double the damage to town
3. Damage 1: Penta, a town is nk'd. Damage 2: Town will be left with one less good role (bambinex's neg role)
4. Therefore, scum should target penta
5. However, this makes things way way too easy for scum and is quite unbalanced
6. Because of this, it does not make sense for both penta and bambi to be town - one of them are scum

Penta scum offers balanced gameplay. Scum is killed, but as a double edged sword, town looses a role.
Bambi scum offers gameplay in favor of town. Scum is killed and nothing bad happens to town

So what be it hmmm...

If both bambinex and penta are town, then town as a whole is already at a disadvantage. I'd rather believe that one of them are scum rather than believe that gameplay is unbalanced

I guess we will wait for D2 to know what to do with penta. What will happen is either

- town spares penta, he dies at night, flips town
- town spares penta, doesn't die at night cause he is scum

shouldn't*

sorry I don't read my messages again before posting them so expect dumb typing errors like this one to appear quite often

This kind of thing is exactly why I say we need to be planning who is on wagons ahead of time

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

pentaqola wrote: 576830

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

I don’t think we should assume who is scum based on their negative role

i think you are right

we shouldn't assume who is scum just based off role either way

and we already lost multiple games due to this form of assumption

pentaqola wrote: 576830

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

Well since this is new territory let's decide whether we should judge neg roles like that.

kinda skeptical but hey i dont oppose something new

i mean, why not. we are all new to this and since this is the first day, we can develop strategies and such for now

This kind of indecisiveness is what will fuck us up

i'm sorry for being indecisive, this is mostly my fault for trying to get into what you are going for because you prefer that way.

the reason i did this is just to see what can be done with assuming via negative roles. i should have just questioned, but i wanna see whats about it fully cuz in reality i see every role as negative no matter the side. also, this is the first day, and if someone gets a role thats good but their negative role literally hinders that. it literally doesn't matter that side it is, it's just bad.

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

I guess we will wait for D2 to know what to do with penta. What will happen is either

- town spares penta, he dies at night, flips town
- town spares penta, doesn't die at night cause he is scum

if you are going for the assumption that one night proves my side then this is extremely faulty.

you literally gave out the thought that: what if bambi is scum and penta is town; you know that they'll keep me alive if bambi is scum, and for some reason would rather vote me out than vote bambi out

this is also why i don't get the negative role assumption, you gave multiple and somehow went for that because "balancing". i am already disliking this idea just because of it's nature of disregarding possibilities in favor of "if negative role does this then that person must be scum" because anyone from the list can be from any side and it will still fuck things up regardless

in fact, i would rather go with what shin said. vote out bambi, and if he ends up town then vote me out if you really want to.

and if you somehow think i want to vote out bambi for an advantage because i somehow am scum to you, why would i want to be voted out the next day if i am wrong? this would become a massive disadvantage for scum if i was scum

and honestly, i'll be alright in becoming path points instead of just being nightkilled at n3

My scum reads:

Yhuan
Bambi

I get bamb but kinda confused to how Yhuan got there

ShinRun wrote: 4p6j2

I get bamb but kinda confused to how Yhuan got there

yhuan's activity is below what is called a "town healthy" behavior. You ought tell them to start dancing or town vultures will come vote them to pieces.

so voting bambi would be safest option no?

wait why is everyone wanting to vote for me now ? Because reading at all the messages again this literally doesn't make any sense
@abraker you proved long ago that, based on the negs, pentaqola is more likely to be scum than me, and now all of a sudden I'm on your scum reads like wtf

@penta sorry but I actually don't get your reasoning behind voting me

Mainly because of this tbh

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

Penta scum offers balanced gameplay. Scum is killed, but as a double edged sword, town looses a role.
Bambi scum offers gameplay in favor of town. Scum is killed and nothing bad happens to town

I think we should at least wait for day 2 before voting pentaqola, so I can get rid of my neg and then we can kill a scum without town losing a role, but voting me right now just doesn't make any sense, all you will do is lose a townie

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

Mainly because of this tbh

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

Penta scum offers balanced gameplay. Scum is killed, but as a double edged sword, town looses a role.
Bambi scum offers gameplay in favor of town. Scum is killed and nothing bad happens to town

I think we should at least wait for day 2 before voting pentaqola, so I can get rid of my neg and then we can kill a scum without town losing a role, but voting me right now just doesn't make any sense, all you will do is lose a townie

that's still with the assumption that there's one scum between the both of you which I personally won't be too sure about given how fucked setups can be

Yhuan Debeste wrote: 5h2o60

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

Mainly because of this tbh

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

Penta scum offers balanced gameplay. Scum is killed, but as a double edged sword, town looses a role.
Bambi scum offers gameplay in favor of town. Scum is killed and nothing bad happens to town

I think we should at least wait for day 2 before voting pentaqola, so I can get rid of my neg and then we can kill a scum without town losing a role, but voting me right now just doesn't make any sense, all you will do is lose a townie

that's still with the assumption that there's one scum between the both of you which I personally won't be too sure about given how fucked setups can be

If there's not one scum between us that mean we're both town so we're even more fucked because everyone's going to vote penta at day 2 hence we lose 2 townies

Voting either me or pentaqola right now is just a bad idea

i think our biggest danger right now isn't even the negative roles, its the unpredictability of what side is handling the roles.

i am town, nothing else. if bambi is not lying that they are town, we are fucked no matter what

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

Mainly because of this tbh

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

Penta scum offers balanced gameplay. Scum is killed, but as a double edged sword, town looses a role.
Bambi scum offers gameplay in favor of town. Scum is killed and nothing bad happens to town

I think we should at least wait for day 2 before voting pentaqola, so I can get rid of my neg and then we can kill a scum without town losing a role, but voting me right now just doesn't make any sense, all you will do is lose a townie

this could have made sense if it wasn't again for the unpredictability and to me, all roles affect the side the it is from no matter what as well.

with the addition of path points which are obtainable by voting someone off, i thought it would have made sense to do what shin said. heck we both are being looked into just because of our neg roles for whatever reason, so why not include me being at d2 in case you aren't scum

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

@penta sorry but I actually don't get your reasoning behind voting me

its okay, i explained it a bit in the post above me

just something about path points, cuz take note, town needs those and shin really needs his neg removed asap

pentaqola wrote: 576830

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

@penta sorry but I actually don't get your reasoning behind voting me

its okay, i explained it a bit in the post above me

just something about path points, cuz take note, town needs those and shin really needs his neg removed asap

ok but voting for me is like pretty bad + we don't know if shin is a townie so we are possibly helping a scum by doing that

Bro i skipped prod what the hell man smh

So are we voting the most not-that-bad role?

NotRaffi wrote: 171b11

So are we voting the most not-that-bad role?

for the townies, yes. so now we're figuring out which one has the worst role of the bunch.

Shin, penta, ami, and bambi all suck dude

no wait i kinda suck at wording.

pretty much try figuring out who gives the least amount of damage for towns if we were to eliminate what we presume are the scums, what are the consequences if we were to, etc.

if we were to vote penta out, then bambi would just lose his role because then it's pretty much useless no?
if we vote bambi, then penta would just gets free role and path

i hope i'm getting this correctly

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

if we were to vote penta out, then bambi would just lose his role because then it's pretty much useless no?
if we vote bambi, then penta would just gets free role and path

i hope i'm getting this correctly

Penta can't see her path and roles even if die, so it's more like:

if we were to vote penta out, then bambi would just lose his role because then it's pretty much useless no?
if we vote bambi, then literally nothing would happen and penta would die because she pushed to vote for me so town loses 2 townies

I don't understand how people think voting either me or pentaqola right now is a good idea

Ok

prod dodge.

I am a bit busy with school so I can't pay much attention right now.

I guess I can also V/LA until next monday.

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

wait why is everyone wanting to vote for me now ? Because reading at all the messages again this literally doesn't make any sense
@abraker you proved long ago that, based on the negs, pentaqola is more likely to be scum than me, and now all of a sudden I'm on your scum reads like wtf

Wait so you are saying I should judge who is scum by neg roles?

community/forums/posts/8344050 hmmmm

For someone who is against using neg role to judge scum I'd expect the response to be something along the lines of "uhh what? role != alignment didn't you get the message?". Instead what I am seeing is panicked finger pointing, "but but you said penta's neg role make h-him more scum then mine, why me?". So making up excuses to save your own skin are we now? The best part is that you would loose ability to get a role if penta is killed. So what this tells me is that this is not just panicked finger pointing, but brain dead panicked finger pointing.

Scum would attempt to save their skin even if it means they will not get a role due to their neg. Town would attempt to save themselves without desperately trying to make scum of someone else. You've just made yourself.

Bamb kinda shot himself in the foot here ay

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

pentaqola wrote: 576830

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

@penta sorry but I actually don't get your reasoning behind voting me

its okay, i explained it a bit in the post above me

just something about path points, cuz take note, town needs those and shin really needs his neg removed asap

ok but voting for me is like pretty bad + we don't know if shin is a townie so we are possibly helping a scum by doing that

it still doesn't dismiss the fact other towns do need points too, not just shin. town getting neg roles removed is very helpful and can stop some problems that they have in their way. like amianki's randomized night action, if removed then this would prevent that 50/50 chance of doing something completely different and mes town's plan from happening.

or even cleve's 50/50 chance of failing to do a night action.

hell, town would also gain roles from this process if they dont wanna get their neg roles removed yet. if town gets some good roles like investigative roles, doctor roles, and some more potentially good ones, this would be beneficial for town.

the examples are going from the assumption that they are town btw, i do not know if they are town, i don't have any idea on what side they could be in, and i just want to give examples of how it could help town in case they are town, you can also look at the other roles and see that if they are town then it would majorly help town if those roles disappear.

and yeah, i can agree with abraker on here, you seem to be panicking. you good bro?

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

if we were to vote penta out, then bambi would just lose his role because then it's pretty much useless no?
if we vote bambi, then penta would just gets free role and path

i hope i'm getting this correctly

also, i will still be blind. yes i can get points for role and path, but i wouldn't know what i will get.

also, sorry for the wording on the first sentence if it seems like i still believe shin is town. he is in a grey line to me too.

i'm still saying that it doesn't dismiss the fact that townies still need points

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

For someone who is against using neg role to judge scum I'd expect the response to be something along the lines of "uhh what? role != alignment didn't you get the message?". Instead what I am seeing is panicked finger pointing, "but but you said penta's neg role make h-him more scum then mine, why me?". So making up excuses to save your own skin are we now? The best part is that you would loose ability to get a role if penta is killed. So what this tells me is that this is not just panicked finger pointing, but brain dead panicked finger pointing.

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

Penta can't see her path and roles even if die, so it's more like:

if we were to vote penta out, then bambi would just lose his role because then it's pretty much useless no?
if we vote bambi, then literally nothing would happen and penta would die because she pushed to vote for me so town loses 2 townies

I don't understand how people think voting either me or pentaqola right now is a good idea

How in the world did you understood that I said we needed to vote pentaqola ?
Yes, I was panicked, because everyone was against me all of a sudden and for no real reason, and I think everyone would be, even more if they are town.

You are not reading my messages, taking some old message I sent at the very beginning of the game just to make an accusation that doesn't make any sense based on my mot recent messages, wtf are you trying to do ?

Also, the message you took was literally my third message. I wasn't familiar with the setup at the time and didn't really took the time to understand it before posting because I was almost getting replaced, so I just wrote it in like 5 minutes so I would have something to send. That's why I think you really shouldn't make your accusation based only on this message.

Why don't we go for the usual random vote instead of reading people in day 1?

If we’re doing usual votes then you’ll probably be on the list

Alright then let's not do random votes

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

I don't understand how people think voting either me or pentaqola right now is a good idea

well try thinking of someone else then.

also i dont want to judge people from their wording but fuck me bambi, you're really fucking sus rn. and i honestly had this feeling even before abraker said it.

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

I don't understand how people think voting either me or pentaqola right now is a good idea

well try thinking of someone else then.

also i dont want to judge people from their wording but fuck me bambi, you're really fucking sus rn. and i honestly had this feeling even before abraker said it.

Why am I looking sus to you ? Just saying that without giving me any information is dumb.

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

I don't understand how people think voting either me or pentaqola right now is a good idea

well try thinking of someone else then.

You ? Or literally anyone else. But me or pentaqola just isn't a good idea and I've already explained it multiple times.

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

For someone who is against using neg role to judge scum I'd expect the response to be something along the lines of "uhh what? role != alignment didn't you get the message?". Instead what I am seeing is panicked finger pointing, "but but you said penta's neg role make h-him more scum then mine, why me?". So making up excuses to save your own skin are we now? The best part is that you would loose ability to get a role if penta is killed. So what this tells me is that this is not just panicked finger pointing, but brain dead panicked finger pointing.

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

Penta can't see her path and roles even if die, so it's more like:

if we were to vote penta out, then bambi would just lose his role because then it's pretty much useless no?
if we vote bambi, then literally nothing would happen and penta would die because she pushed to vote for me so town loses 2 townies

I don't understand how people think voting either me or pentaqola right now is a good idea

How in the world did you understood that I said we needed to vote pentaqola ?
Yes, I was panicked, because everyone was against me all of a sudden and for no real reason, and I think everyone would be, even more if they are town.

Jee I wonder how

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

@abraker you proved long ago that, based on the negs, pentaqola is more likely to be scum than me, and now all of a sudden I'm on your scum reads like wtf

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

You are not reading my messages, taking some old message I sent at the very beginning of the game just to make an accusation that doesn't make any sense based on my mot recent messages, wtf are you trying to do ?

uhhh saying that is not helping cause you are itting to be anti-town at best lol

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

some old message I sent at the very beginning of the game just to make an accusation

Just to stress which part of that message is scummy

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

For someone who is against using neg role to judge scum I'd expect the response to be something along the lines of "uhh what? role != alignment didn't you get the message?". Instead what I am seeing is panicked finger pointing, "but but you said penta's neg role make h-him more scum then mine, why me?". So making up excuses to save your own skin are we now? The best part is that you would loose ability to get a role if penta is killed. So what this tells me is that this is not just panicked finger pointing, but brain dead panicked finger pointing.

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

Penta can't see her path and roles even if die, so it's more like:

if we were to vote penta out, then bambi would just lose his role because then it's pretty much useless no?
if we vote bambi, then literally nothing would happen and penta would die because she pushed to vote for me so town loses 2 townies

I don't understand how people think voting either me or pentaqola right now is a good idea

How in the world did you understood that I said we needed to vote pentaqola ?
Yes, I was panicked, because everyone was against me all of a sudden and for no real reason, and I think everyone would be, even more if they are town.

Jee I wonder how

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

@abraker you proved long ago that, based on the negs, pentaqola is more likely to be scum than me, and now all of a sudden I'm on your scum reads like wtf

Was I saying that we needed to vote pentaqola out ? Stop reinterpreting m'y messages pls

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

some old message I sent at the very beginning of the game just to make an accusation

Just to stress which part of that message is scummy

Why is that scummy ? Sorry but I actually don't understand lmao

Have we decided yet?

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

Mainly because of this tbh

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

Penta scum offers balanced gameplay. Scum is killed, but as a double edged sword, town looses a role.
Bambi scum offers gameplay in favor of town. Scum is killed and nothing bad happens to town

I think we should at least wait for day 2 before voting pentaqola, so I can get rid of my neg and then we can kill a scum without town losing a role, but voting me right now just doesn't make any sense, all you will do is lose a townie

Also you forgot this message

NotRaffi wrote: 171b11

Have we decided yet?

That looks like a no and the problem is that abraker wasted all of the day trying to accuse me so now uuuuh... yeah

We really need to choose someone to vote out

^

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

For someone who is against using neg role to judge scum I'd expect the response to be something along the lines of "uhh what? role != alignment didn't you get the message?". Instead what I am seeing is panicked finger pointing, "but but you said penta's neg role make h-him more scum then mine, why me?". So making up excuses to save your own skin are we now? The best part is that you would loose ability to get a role if penta is killed. So what this tells me is that this is not just panicked finger pointing, but brain dead panicked finger pointing.

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

Penta can't see her path and roles even if die, so it's more like:

if we were to vote penta out, then bambi would just lose his role because then it's pretty much useless no?
if we vote bambi, then literally nothing would happen and penta would die because she pushed to vote for me so town loses 2 townies

I don't understand how people think voting either me or pentaqola right now is a good idea

How in the world did you understood that I said we needed to vote pentaqola ?
Yes, I was panicked, because everyone was against me all of a sudden and for no real reason, and I think everyone would be, even more if they are town.

Jee I wonder how

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

@abraker you proved long ago that, based on the negs, pentaqola is more likely to be scum than me, and now all of a sudden I'm on your scum reads like wtf

Was I saying that we needed to vote pentaqola out ? Stop reinterpreting m'y messages pls

you already contradicted yourself with the following message:

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

How in the world did you understood that I said we needed to vote pentaqola ?

unless this is also a cause of bad wording, this has to be a terrible case of bad wording since it implies you are hinting towards you trying to make me seem like the best to vote out at day two. not just that, but you seem desperate to make me in abraker's scum list instead of you so you could survive longer for whatever reason. i'm not scum, and i would rather get voted out today. because at least i'm still worth something despite being eliminated

and if you want why i would rather be voted out today, its because i'm really worried that mafia will keep me alive for d2 and bambi takes that as a means of me somehow being scum. me being alive at d2 does not equate to me being scum, if anything it just means that mafia could be planning to do something with me.

pentaqola wrote: 576830

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

For someone who is against using neg role to judge scum I'd expect the response to be something along the lines of "uhh what? role != alignment didn't you get the message?". Instead what I am seeing is panicked finger pointing, "but but you said penta's neg role make h-him more scum then mine, why me?". So making up excuses to save your own skin are we now? The best part is that you would loose ability to get a role if penta is killed. So what this tells me is that this is not just panicked finger pointing, but brain dead panicked finger pointing.

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

Penta can't see her path and roles even if die, so it's more like:

if we were to vote penta out, then bambi would just lose his role because then it's pretty much useless no?
if we vote bambi, then literally nothing would happen and penta would die because she pushed to vote for me so town loses 2 townies

I don't understand how people think voting either me or pentaqola right now is a good idea

How in the world did you understood that I said we needed to vote pentaqola ?
Yes, I was panicked, because everyone was against me all of a sudden and for no real reason, and I think everyone would be, even more if they are town.

Jee I wonder how

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

@abraker you proved long ago that, based on the negs, pentaqola is more likely to be scum than me, and now all of a sudden I'm on your scum reads like wtf

Was I saying that we needed to vote pentaqola out ? Stop reinterpreting m'y messages pls

you already contradicted yourself with the following message:

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

How in the world did you understood that I said we needed to vote pentaqola ?

unless this is also a cause of bad wording, this has to be a terrible case of bad wording since it implies you are hinting towards you trying to make me seem like the best to vote out at day two. not just that, but you seem desperate to make me in abraker's scum list instead of you so you could survive longer for whatever reason. i'm not scum, and i would rather get voted out today. because at least i'm still worth something despite being eliminated

and if you want why i would rather be voted out today, its because i'm really worried that mafia will keep me alive for d2 and bambi takes that as a means of me somehow being scum. me being alive at d2 does not equate to me being scum, if anything it just means that mafia could be planning to do something with me.

Yeah I know my wording is pretty bad sorry
I am saying the exact same thing in both messages, how is that contradictory ?
Also I'm not saying that you are 100% a scum and you need to be killed or whatever, I was just saying that it was more logical. I know my wording can be really confusing and I'm surely wrong, but I really didn't want to eliminate you or whatever, and you'll be worth nothing if you get eliminated at day 1 because all you'll do is make a townie lose his role

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

NotRaffi wrote: 171b11

Have we decided yet?

That looks like a no and the problem is that abraker wasted all of the day trying to accuse me so now uuuuh... yeah

I am trying to find reasons why you aee not scum and you are just priving you are with each post you make. I wasted all day trying to accuse you of being scum? How does that even work? Anybody could have posted something else, anything at all for that matter. You could have came up with other leads on who couls be town or scum. You could have given your reads. You could have direct a question to someone who is being quiet. I didn't waste a day, you are taking about what happened and turning it around to save your own skin.

It's getting close to deadline and I'm convinced enough.

vote: bambinex

excuse the typos, im on mobile

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

NotRaffi wrote: 171b11

Have we decided yet?

That looks like a no and the problem is that abraker wasted all of the day trying to accuse me so now uuuuh... yeah

I am trying to find reasons why you aee not scum and you are just priving you are with each post you make. I wasted all day trying to accuse you of being scum? How does that even work? Anybody could have posted something else, anything at all for that matter. You could have came up with other leads on who couls be town or scum. You could have given your reads. You could have direct a question to someone who is being quiet. I didn't waste a day, you are taking about what happened and turning it around to save your own skin.

It's getting close to deadline and I'm convinced enough.

vote: bambinex

You gave reasons why I am scum?. I literally debunked all of these reasons. Yet you rae still trying to make me look scummy. You are doing the exact same braindead finger pointing you were reproaching me to do before.
I want to save my own skin, just like everyone would do in this situation wdym

Remove the first ? (typo)

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@NotRaffi
@Yhuan Debeste

You have barely contributed to the game. Your thoughts on this ?

You really said I barely contributed to the game huh

Even though I have been in a lot of games, I am still terrible in deciding, so this is what i think of the situation

Abraker seems to have pinned bambi, almost too aggressive, something a scum would do

Bambi defenses himself too, but it is aggressive too (Now i don't know if that is normal since i can barely defend myself), making it look like you're being cornered by abraker

Take it as you will, i don't think that I'll vote until we make a decision

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

@samX500
@ShinRun
@Amianki
@NotRaffi
@Yhuan Debeste

You have barely contributed to the game. Your thoughts on this ?

Shit got struck by lightning so I wasn't able to use my wifi for a while, very sorry about that. I'll try to read through everything now

Yeah I don't really know, bambi's messages seem to only point to penta and doesn't really bother anyone else so that really makes him look anti-town. his behavious is probably enough to vote him out if we're just trying to get points in D1 + the fact that he'll only get to use his point to remove his negs even if he gets one

Yhuan Debeste wrote: 5h2o60

Yeah I don't really know, bambi's messages seem to only point to penta and doesn't really bother anyone else so that really makes him look anti-town. his behavious is probably enough to vote him out if we're just trying to get points in D1 + the fact that he'll only get to use his point to remove his negs even if he gets one

Almost all of my messages were about trying to defend myself actually, and I think everyone is going to use his point to remove his neg if they get one imo

Vote Count 1.1

Day 1 will end in 28 hours

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

Yhuan Debeste wrote: 5h2o60

Yeah I don't really know, bambi's messages seem to only point to penta and doesn't really bother anyone else so that really makes him look anti-town. his behavious is probably enough to vote him out if we're just trying to get points in D1 + the fact that he'll only get to use his point to remove his negs even if he gets one

Almost all of my messages were about trying to defend myself actually, and I think everyone is going to use his point to remove his neg if they get one imo

A neg like mine wouldn't really matter would it?

Yhuan Debeste wrote: 5h2o60

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

Yhuan Debeste wrote: 5h2o60

Yeah I don't really know, bambi's messages seem to only point to penta and doesn't really bother anyone else so that really makes him look anti-town. his behavious is probably enough to vote him out if we're just trying to get points in D1 + the fact that he'll only get to use his point to remove his negs even if he gets one

Almost all of my messages were about trying to defend myself actually, and I think everyone is going to use his point to remove his neg if they get one imo

A neg like mine wouldn't really matter would it?

Yeah yours wouldn't be too bad but I think everyone else should remove their role as soon as possible because they can be really problematic

igorsprite wrote: 6x186x

Vote Count 1.1

bambinex (1): abraker.
Not Voting (8): Yhuan Debeste, samX500, Amianki, pentaqola, NotRaffi, Sub_kun, ClevelandsMyBro, ShinRun.

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Day 1 will end in 28 hours

You forgot to replace sub_kun's name

prod dodge

got nothing to add.

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

prod dodge

got nothing to add.

I'm gonna nothing to add you into a pretzel. I am running over bambinex and you got NoThInG tO aDd
You better get something to add within the 7 hours we get left of this day or so help you, your worst nightmares gonna look like heaven after

thank god i said something

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

ClevelandsMyBro wrote: 58np

prod dodge

got nothing to add.

I'm gonna nothing to add you into a pretzel. I am running over bambinex and you got NoThInG tO aDd
You better get something to add within the 7 hours we get left of this day or so help you, your worst nightmares gonna look like heaven after

i've said enough days before i think. i'm already convinved who i'm going to vote out days ago. i was hoping for some more discussion about this so i left it overnight, maybe someone's post is going to change my mind. but no, i woke up to find my post from last night is still the last post. if no one is going to discuss it anymore then fine by me.

i'm voting.
vote: bambinex

Why are you voting for me just because abraker is pressuring you ?
vote: abraker
I'm pretty sure I'm going to die but please guys don't trust this guy on the future

I actually don't understand why you are following this guy even tho I proved everything he said was wrong

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

NotRaffi wrote: 171b11

Have we decided yet?

That looks like a no and the problem is that abraker wasted all of the day trying to accuse me so now uuuuh... yeah

I am trying to find reasons why you aee not scum and you are just priving you are with each post you make. I wasted all day trying to accuse you of being scum? How does that even work? Anybody could have posted something else, anything at all for that matter. You could have came up with other leads on who couls be town or scum. You could have given your reads. You could have direct a question to someone who is being quiet. I didn't waste a day, you are taking about what happened and turning it around to save your own skin.

It's getting close to deadline and I'm convinced enough.

vote: bambinex

You gave reasons why I am scum?. I literally debunked all of these reasons. Yet you rae still trying to make me look scummy. You are doing the exact same braindead finger pointing you were reproaching me to do before.
I want to save my own skin, just like everyone would do in this situation wdym

@abraker it would be cool if you react to this instead of pressuring people into voting me ? Why am I still a scum to you ?

Vote Count 1.2

Day 1 will end in 12 hours

Day 1 will end in 8 hours

Day 1 is almost over.

the main event of this day was the quite aggressive fight between bambinex and abraker.

I do find bambinex's action to be kinda scummy.

I could also very well see a scenario where abraker is trying to pressure bambinex hard to make them look sus. I am not sure how likely that is though, we are kinda early in the game and I doubt abraker would be so aggressive so early.

I'd favor elim bambinex, but if they turn out scum we should really read into abraker in the next day.

______

Beside, I don't know of any better person to vote off. I do think we should perhaps look into Yhuan and Shinrun too. Both of them were very insistant to not decide who to vote based on neg role despite neither of them being on the chopping block. Penta did the same too but also contradicted herself, it might just be a lot of indecision.

Vote: Bambinex

I think it's 8 hour

samX500 wrote: 4e1z5d

I'd favor elim bambinex, but if they turn out scum we should really read into abraker in the next day.

I'd favor elim bambinex, but if they turn out town we should really read into abraker in the next day.

Typo me can't type.

Vote Count 1.3
samX500 is V/LA

Day 1 will end in 8 hours

We need a sacrifice for the greater good
VOTE : Bambinex

I would prefer to vote someone very inactive like Yhuan

But Bambinex is acting a bit scummy now and also it seems like he’s gonna be voted out so I need some points

Vote Count 1.4
samX500 is V/LA

Day 1 will end in 4 hours

Vote: bambinex

Points

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

abraker wrote: 6cx2d

bambinex wrote: 4c1o3r

NotRaffi wrote: 171b11

Have we decided yet?

That looks like a no and the problem is that abraker wasted all of the day trying to accuse me so now uuuuh... yeah

I am trying to find reasons why you aee not scum and you are just priving you are with each post you make. I wasted all day trying to accuse you of being scum? How does that even work? Anybody could have posted something else, anything at all for that matter. You could have came up with other leads on who couls be town or scum. You could have given your reads. You could have direct a question to someone who is being quiet. I didn't waste a day, you are taking about what happened and turning it around to save your own skin.

It's getting close to deadline and I'm convinced enough.

vote: bambinex

You gave reasons why I am scum?. I literally debunked all of these reasons. Yet you rae still trying to make me look scummy. You are doing the exact same braindead finger pointing you were reproaching me to do before.
I want to save my own skin, just like everyone would do in this situation wdym

@abraker it would be cool if you react to this instead of pressuring people into voting me ? Why am I still a scum to you ?

You never debunked any of the reasons

When I included you in pointed fingers on pentaqola. Why is this bad?

1) This is inconsistent with your opinions that we should not vote pentaqola. If you truly believed that, you would have not done anything to cast them in negative light.

2) This is inconsistent with your opinions that we should not judge alignment by role. Why even invoke my "proof", whatever it is, that penta's neg role is more scummy than yours? If you truly believed we should not judge by neg roles, you would have never used that excuse.

When you defended against my claim your were scum, you urged to dismiss your older posts as something that should be used. Why is this bad?

1) ... aaaaaaaaand wan't able to finish writing before Yhuan voted, oh well.

*you urged to dismiss your older posts as something that should not be used

Vote Count 1.5
samX500 is V/LA

Day 1 will end in 4 hours

I'm stupid I can't hammer someone unvote gogogo

I'll help you

vote: bambinex

Vote Count 1.FINAL
samX500 is V/LA

bambinex Town Enabled has been eliminated Day 1

abraker, samX500, ClevelandsMyBro, ShinRun and bambinex earned 1 Path Point

Night 1 Begins

Oh no, our Princess died

samX500 Town Princess 2-Shots Checker has died Night 1

Day 2 Begins

Vote Count 2.0
Since samX500 died, Day 2 will not be extended.

Day 2 will end on October 27th at 1:00pm UTC-3