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Lincolm wrote: 2x5543
Yep, let's fight.
why would he answer red? are you trying to distract us from actual scum and shift the attention to the new players?Lincolm wrote: 2x5543
That's logical answer. And no, I just ask if you get red or green colour, hoping you to answer red somehow.
Well-written flavour, though.
Hey Zekks, what do you think about John?this further proves my suspicion; stop trying to initiate a bandwagon, it's not working
He wrote really nice flavour for mafia but doesn't know RVS.doesn't take an experienced player to write good flavour
Do you agree that he is newbie?yeah
Most people, even newbies, will know green and red are the expected answer, and some experienced people might be jokingly answer it by any means as it was in RVSand because it's still RSV, I don't think he has any idea whether you're town or not, hence why he gave you a vague answer. to me, that makes perfect sense, he really has no reason to trust you.
You don't want to vote me Zekks? A nice green fast wagon to jump inwhat are you trying to accomplish
Maybe just me then.Foxtrot wrote: 2l233p
doesn't take an experienced player to write good flavour
Not vague, imo.Foxtrot wrote: 2l233p
and because it's still RSV, I don't think he has any idea whether you're town or not, hence why he gave you a vague answer. to me, that makes perfect sense, he really has no reason to trust you.
Because he was around. I like to engage someone who was around. If I want to ask who not online, I would put it later.Foxtrot wrote: 2l233p
i still don't understand why you asked about john to zekks. you could have asked anybody but you went straight for zekks
What do you think about Zekks, then? Am I wrong to engage to him? What should I ask to him?Foxtrot wrote: 2l233p
what are you trying to accomplish
I think tunnelling is good in this condition, I like what he do.[ - Zekks - ] wrote: 4w4v2y
I might vote for Foxtrot, since she is trying to pin everyone on Lincolm, but that seems kinda weak, but I'll still hold onto that
What do you think about my clarification?[ - Zekks - ] wrote: 4w4v2y
Or I can change my vote to Lincolm, because Foxtrot has decent amount of evidence to the fact that Lincolm could be the mafia
Dawnsday haven't confirmed
Unofficial Vote Count
Lincolm (L-3) : johnmedina999, Foxtrot
rEdo (L-3) : Hika, [ - Zekks - ]
Hika (L-3) : Zexion, Lincolm
[ - Zekks - ] (L-4) : rEdo
Not Voting : abraker, Dawnsday
fair enoughLincolm wrote: 2x5543
Because he was around. I like to engage someone who was around. If I want to ask who not online, I would put it later.
i like your confidenceLincolm wrote: 2x5543
It doesn't hurt me or Foxtrot if you vote me or Foxtrot.
well, you were expecting a red or green answer. he said mostly black. that can be seen as vague...Lincolm wrote: 2x5543
Not vague, imo.
let me take that back.Foxtrot wrote: 2l233p
to me, that makes perfect sense, he really has no reason to trust you.
i missed thisZekks wrote: 102o9
idc, as long as I'm walking, there's no stopping for me 'w'
but you didn't say that you were town, either, so we're back to square one. we don't know who you are, so that's a good enough reason to not trust you.John wrote: 3x644n
I purposely did not give out any information because there was no real reason to. If someone asks for your credit card info, would you give it to them on the spot? I thought so
this is ONE of the possibilites i mentioned so i dont think i have to add anything to thatJohn wrote: 3x644n
Also, I voted for him because RVS: there was no one to really vote for, no evidence to analyze yet, but the second he started fishing for an easy noob kill, it seems suspicious to me, and I voted.
are you trying to say that i mindlessly agreed with you? because that's not the case. i gave my reasons, and they just happened to concise with yours. until i read the thread over.John wrote: 3x644n
Foxtrot, you confuse me. Hopping onto the first bandwagon that seemed plausible would be a scum thing to do
but i haven't even refrained my vote from Lincolm so you're contradicting yourself there.John wrote: 3x644n
but I see you are starting to hop off it with your post, and going more neutral. My instincts tell me this is not a scum move, but there is also the possibility of you being Mafia and Lincolm being your partner: as soon as you saw Zekks thinking about hopping on the bandwagon, you saw that your partner being killed might be a certain possibility, and you hopped off the wagon to avoid that. That seems suspicious to me.
i just think that the possibility of you being scum is as high as Lincolm's because you both acted fairly suspicious.
Mafia game is full of doubt and naturally heated game. I'm trying to not mentally unbalanced like in the past. Confidence is just to hide my tantrums. Hope I do well in holding it.Foxtrot wrote: 2l233p
i like your confidence
Maybe I'm not clear enough in my explanation before. If he answered either red or green jokingly, it means he is experienced and vice versa.Foxtrot wrote: 2l233p
well, you were expecting a red or green answer. he said mostly black. that can be seen as vague...
Mmmm... even though if you said red colour, did it makes everyone believe you're mafia and vice versa? Tbh, I'm not trying to create a bandwagon, but I'm trying to push everyone to get out from RVS and post actual content. Unfortunately, I don't have any reads to change my vote to serious vote.johnmedina999 wrote: 3r3a6s
I still hold my vote against Lincolm, though, because even if going after fresh meat is a plausible thing to do, trying to create a bandwagon is scummy to me.
Basically, that was rEdo's RVS vote.Foxtrot wrote: 2l233p
but hey, you didn't go after rEdo when he voted for Zekks for simply being new. are you being hypocritical or are you partners with him?
I am considering to vote for myself if I cannot come up with any conclusions in the next couple days because fuck RVSLincolm wrote: 2x5543
@abraker :
Why did you not RVS? What do you think about me?
Lincolm plz, even the role PM's are up.Lincolm wrote: 2x5543
That's logical answer. And no, I just ask if you get red or green colour, hoping you to answer red somehow.
Well-written flavour, though.
It's way too soon to be assuming bandwagons mean something. I've seen games when players get to L-1 and it doesn't mean anything in particular. Also why do you assume rEdo and Hika wagons are "based on nothing"? Have you ever asked the reasons why is that?johnmedina999 wrote: 3r3a6s
I purposely did not give out any information because there was no real reason to. If someone asks for your credit card info, would you give it to them on the spot? I thought so. Also, I voted for him because RVS: there was no one to really vote for, no evidence to analyze yet, but the second he started fishing for an easy noob kill, it seems suspicious to me, and I voted.
Foxtrot, you confuse me. Hopping onto the first bandwagon that seemed plausible would be a scum thing to do (redo and Hika bandwagons are based on nothing), but I see you are starting to hop off it with your post, and going more neutral. My instincts tell me this is not a scum move, but there is also the possibility of you being Mafia and Lincolm being your partner: as soon as you saw Zekks thinking about hopping on the bandwagon, you saw that your partner being killed might be a certain possibility, and you hopped off the wagon to avoid that. That seems suspicious to me.
I still hold my vote against Lincolm, though, because even if going after fresh meat is a plausible thing to do, trying to create a bandwagon is scummy to me.
My vote may have been RVS, but that doesn't mean I keep it for the same reason.johnmedina999 wrote: 3r3a6s
Well, I guess I meant nothing in this game. The first vote was for redo by Hika with no reasoning or previous posts, and you voted for Hika because she "didn't like my bastard game", which (to me) is not based on anything. Sure, cross-game interactions are valuable, but the reasoning isn't there. Now that you're here, may I ask if you have a different reason for voting for Hika?
I think you're just overanalyzing a bad newb-test Lincolm did.Dawnsday wrote: 366838
My entire opinion on the entire "PM color" thing is that no matter what John responded (even red?), it couldn't be taken at face value ever. He responds green? Duh he's scum, or town. Leaving you with nothing. He responds with nor green nor red? Great, he's given you nothing. He responds red? He can simply claim he was trying to see how far you'd push him as a newb and how devoted you'd be to taking such info at face value. (Though I'm not sure I'd even consider this a possbility in hindsight, just pointing out that even in the most extreme of responses it could be played off.) therefore I think the entire concept of asking for his PM color was flawed in response.
and I asked her to clarify on this, but she hasn't told me anything yet. I know, I might be looking too hard for clues, but that is such an odd thing to sayZekks wrote: 102o9
idc, as long as I'm walking, there's no stopping for me 'w'
I'm looking at it critically but maybe you're right. I stand by that the concept was flawed, I have no idea as to Lincolm's experience but I'm just giving my opinion on the matter. I stand by that it COULD potentially have been a scum play but I agree that it's just a shortsighted newb test.Zexion wrote: 11654m
I think you're just overanalyzing a bad newb-test Lincolm did.Dawnsday wrote: 366838
My entire opinion on the entire "PM color" thing is that no matter what John responded (even red?), it couldn't be taken at face value ever. He responds green? Duh he's scum, or town. Leaving you with nothing. He responds with nor green nor red? Great, he's given you nothing. He responds red? He can simply claim he was trying to see how far you'd push him as a newb and how devoted you'd be to taking such info at face value. (Though I'm not sure I'd even consider this a possbility in hindsight, just pointing out that even in the most extreme of responses it could be played off.) therefore I think the entire concept of asking for his PM color was flawed in response.
It is odd agreed. It's possible this is just fluff memery (however inappropriate one may deem it in a thread). I'm also quite eager to hear the reasoning for it but on the whole I don't think there's too too much that can be read into.Foxtrot wrote: 2l233p
interesting that you mention a connection between Lincolm and Zekks, Dawnsday
Zekks recently wrote this
and I asked her to clarify on this, but she hasn't told me anything yet. I know, I might be looking too hard for clues, but that is such an odd thing to sayZekks wrote: 102o9
idc, as long as I'm walking, there's no stopping for me 'w'
Updated, thank you.Lincolm wrote: 2x5543
@Mod : May you please put this in your (most first) post?
Players ISO :
1. johnmedina999
2. Zexion
3. Dawnsday
4. Foxtrot
5. Hika
6. [ - Zekks - ]
7. Lincolm
8. abraker
9. rEdo
Mod ISO :
beeboy123
I thought I was the only one who made charts and stuff and over analyzed everything.Zexion wrote: 11654m
I missed Dawnsday image-posts.
This is going to be a fun game.
Zekks was onto both on Foxtrot and Lincolm. What difference does it make who gets the vote? It doesn't make sense for Foxtrot to go easier on Lincolm if Foxtrot himself ends up on the end of the voting stick instead.johnmedina999 wrote: 3r3a6s
as soon as you saw Zekks thinking about hopping on the bandwagon, you saw that your partner being killed might be a certain possibility, and you hopped off the wagon to avoid that. That seems suspicious to me.
My scum detector is getting a faint reading here. Attempting to justify the no change in vote using indecisiveness between the two most active ? By what I see Lincolm was trying to break RVS and caught the attention of Foxtrot in the processes. Why even mention a change in vote before the dust has settled a bit is beyond me.[ - Zekks - ] wrote: 4w4v2y
I might vote for Foxtrot, since she is trying to pin everyone on Lincolm, but that seems kinda weak, but I'll still hold onto that
Or I can change my vote to Lincolm, because Foxtrot has decent amount of evidence to the fact that Lincolm could be the mafia
And you ignored my question too, what gives? Answer mine and Lincolm's questions already!abraker wrote: 6cx2d
Zekks, why do you think Lincolm is asking you so many questions?
Unofficial Vote Count
[ - Zekks - ] (L-2) : rEdo, Foxtrot, Dawnsday
Hika (L-3) : Zexion, Lincolm
rEdo (L-4) : [ - Zekks - ]
Lincolm (L-4) : johnmedina999
Not Voting : abraker, Hika
So any reason why "fuck RVS"?abraker wrote: 6cx2d
I am considering to vote for myself if I cannot come up with any conclusions in the next couple days because fuck RVS.
I read both Foxtrot and John as town, for now. So yes, I was stuck.Dawnsday wrote: 366838
Lincolm has stuck to explaining his play.
Because somehow he doesn't care about you? When I asked about you, he said "idc" and it's weird?johnmedina999 wrote: 3r3a6s
It doesn't help that both times he asked someone about me he asked Zekks.
Have play mafia like 4-5 years ago, stopped playing 2 years ago, aaaaaand back.Dawnsday wrote: 366838
I have no idea as to Lincolm's experience but I'm just giving my opinion on the matter.
I like my vote sticks in you >:)Hika wrote: 2p2929
p.s. RVS is over imo
What is the abbreviation BS in here? Is it bullshit? I thought you like to over-analyzed everything. Can you explain more about your read on Foxtrot?abraker wrote: 6cx2d
Foxtrot - My personal BS detector from now on
You and Zekks seemed to speak to eachother a lot, you were asking Zekks for his thoughts about John (you've explained this to be solely down to online s but I'm still iffy.)Lincolm wrote: 2x5543
Somehow this question doesn't posted in my previous post.
Dawnsday wrote: 366838
furthering the narrative that Zekks & Lincolm seems to have some connection
What do you mean by "connection" between me and Zekks? Do you mean scum-scum interaction or something? What if one or both of us town?
BS means bullshit, yesLincolm wrote: 2x5543
What is the abbreviation BS in here? Is it bullshit? I thought you like to over-analyzed everything. Can you explain more about your read on Foxtrot?
it's not like we can't unvote, so why would you say that? is zekks getting too many votes for your liking?Lincolm wrote: 2x5543
So you guys should back off and chill out a little bit and see other players as we have 120 hours before deadline.