i dont think ponify is a necessary word it seems like too much to me
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Probably not, no, whyMadvillain wrote: 2v6e3b
would anyone other than bronies actually use that word
your point being?DaddyCoolVipper wrote: 4p47
It's a TV show created to market toys to children.
i dont think transmogrify is a necessary word but it has its place and its usesAomi wrote: 2q6w66
i dont think ponify is a necessary word it seems like too much to me
Nah, USSR cartoons were incredibly well-drawn and always had a nice story behind it, but sadly didn't have the budget of the West at the time. Most Soviet-block cartoons were actually drawn by people who didn't like Socialism all that much.Comfy Slippers wrote: 4v5r2f
commie propagandaKlocuch12 wrote: 6h432u
I grew up on USSR cartoons and it was great.
You'll find very little evidence of people loving living under Socialism besides delusional fanatics (looking at you, Balkan) or those who never actually lived under it.
It's funny because Erasmus' quote "War is delightful to those who have had no experience of it." applies perfectly when it comes to those liberals in the West and their thoughts about Socialism.
It's funny because Erasmus' quote "War is delightful to those who have had no experience of it." applies perfectly when it comes to those liberals in the West and their thoughts about Socialism.
Same. I still have some video cassettes of those.Klocuch12 wrote: 6h432u
I grew up on USSR cartoons and it was great. Nowadays children should watch kemono friends its best show
Mahogany, if you say advancement you're implying that there's some sort of goal. Furthermore, you're implying that the invention of the word "ponify" somehow moved us closer to that goal.Mahogany wrote: 4pak
itt: Contributing to the advancement of the English language makes you a horrible community
If the goal of language is to have the general population communicate as efficiently as possible, then adding useless clutter to the dictionaries can hardly be called an "advancement".
That shit belongs on urban dictionary. Not in a real dictionary.
Adding or taking away words is a change, but not necessarily an advancement. You need change for advancement, but not every change constitutes an advancement.
it really doesn't.Mahogany wrote: 4pak
It's not clutter if it has good uses
If you add ponify to the dictionaries, you might as well add this
Lumberjack
Euphemism for someone who drops a huge, usually long, piece of shit. As a lumberjack lays logs, this person laid their to the toilet.
Aww dude, couldn't you flush the toilet?
I did, but the log was too long go down.
You lumberjack!
because the english language is always evolvingDaddyCoolVipper wrote: 4p47
Not to mention it'll be completely gone in 10 years.
I didn't think people would be so offended by the idea of a new word but then again it really shouldn't surprise me
does that get used in that manner often enough to be considered a part of the english language? Then sure of courseRailey2 wrote: 6a2u27
If you add ponify to the dictionaries, you might as well add this
This is something the MLP community always had a massive problem with. They feel that just because they personally are obsessed with the show, that naturally everyone else will feel the same way.
I.e. "ponify being a word just shows that MLP is gonna take over the world! xD" when in reality it's just a small group of people who are fans of some random toy-based TV show. Pokédex isn't a dictionary word either, and for good reason. Just because some community uses it, that certainly doesn't mean they're "advancing the English language", or having the language "evolve".
Bronies always forced their fandom onto others for no good reason- I think it's because the community has lots of socially inept people who don't actually understand that other people simply aren't interested in what they're obsessed with.
I.e. "ponify being a word just shows that MLP is gonna take over the world! xD" when in reality it's just a small group of people who are fans of some random toy-based TV show. Pokédex isn't a dictionary word either, and for good reason. Just because some community uses it, that certainly doesn't mean they're "advancing the English language", or having the language "evolve".
Bronies always forced their fandom onto others for no good reason- I think it's because the community has lots of socially inept people who don't actually understand that other people simply aren't interested in what they're obsessed with.
No it doesn't and neither does ponify -> my point. Both belong in the category "slang", words that are used by only a very small subset of people, words you won't find in any respectable piece of literature etc.Mahogany wrote: 4pak
does that get used in that manner often enough to be considered a part of the english language? Then sure of courseRailey2 wrote: 6a2u27
If you add ponify to the dictionaries, you might as well add this
Not fit for dictionaries.
nice strawmanDaddyCoolVipper wrote: 4p47
"ponify being a word just shows that MLP is gonna take over the world! xD" when in reality it's just a small group of people who are fans of some random toy-based TV show.
"Ponify" extends beyond the fandom just because of how the word is used, whereas pokedex literally isn't because it's a plot device that is fundamentally tied to the pokemon world. You're not going to use a "pokedex" to identify a real animal or a digimon or something, hence it's not really something that'd land in a dictionary.
If you see something that's been turned into a pony, though, it's been ponified. It's like you're referring to an art-style - people refer to picasso-style paintings as such, because it fundamentally conveys the intended meaning as clearly as possible, because everyone knows who picasso is and how unique his style was. In the same way, anyone and everyone can identify the meaning of "ponification", hence...well, it's a word!
as for obsession I say you'd be the one who's obsessed what with getting so assblasted over the whole thing. I didn't expect anything like this sort of reaction
It's used outside of the fandom, though. Even if you're not a brony you know what the hell it means to "ponify" somethingRailey2 wrote: 6a2u27
No it doesn't and neither does ponify -> my point. Both belong in the category "slang", words that are used by only a very small subset of people, words you won't find in any respectable piece of literature etc.
https://www.equestriadaily.com/2017/07/ ... rriam.htmlMahogany wrote: 4pak
nice strawmanDaddyCoolVipper wrote: 4p47
"ponify being a word just shows that MLP is gonna take over the world! xD" when in reality it's just a small group of people who are fans of some random toy-based TV show.
"Pony has entered the dictionary, guys, as 'ponify' enters into the English language through Merriam-Webster! We're slowly taking over the whole world, aren't we?"
Also: Do you think that "JoJofied" should be part of the dictionary? Spongebobified? Furrified? Chibified? etc etc
Your worldview's deluded if you think the word "ponify" has any relevance outside of the MLP community
well now you do congratsKlocuch12 wrote: 6h432u
I actually had no idea what it means
That's been a meme since the fandom's inception and you're totally clueless about the fandom if you think it's actually seriousDaddyCoolVipper wrote: 4p47
"Pony has entered the dictionary, guys, as 'ponify' enters into the English language through Merriam-Webster! We're slowly taking over the whole world, aren't we?"
If it gets use, yes! That's what language is.DaddyCoolVipper wrote: 4p47
Also: Do you think that "JoJofied" should be part of the dictionary? Spongebobified? Furrified? Chibified? etc etc
no Mahogany that is not what dictionaries are for. If it worked that way, everyone could just make up a word and say "but d'uh I use the word so its part of our language, now put it in the dictionary"
just no
slang generally doesn't go in dictionaries. Different for jargon, but slang is just nope 99% of the time.
just no
slang generally doesn't go in dictionaries. Different for jargon, but slang is just nope 99% of the time.
I have ESO but I haven't played it much, mainly since I hate lag and there are no Australian servers for MMOs. I also hate how the classes work and how much it deviates from the single player games, it really shoehorns you into using a certain playstyle for a specified race, class or weapon. Having a few classes like "Dragon knight" and "shadow archer" or whatever they are called ignores what's good about the single player games. For example, in the single player games, there are hundreds of combinations of the skills, races and equipment that you can use to create your own unique playstyles. You could play as a monk who plays unarmoured and supplements hand to hand skills with restoration and alteration, or you could play as a mage archer who uses conjuration and illusion to distract your enemies while you sneak in the background shooting arrows, and so on. In ESO, all that is lost in favour of having a few contrived class archetypes - if you're a certain race you must use x weapon or you won't get any benefits, different types of armour give arbitrary bonuses to different playstyles, et cetera.
Rather, I've been playing TESIII: Morrowind.
Rather, I've been playing TESIII: Morrowind.
don't play ESO expecting another TES game. It's still an MMO at the end of the day, hence why classes are a thing. Also, I don't know what you're talking about here
it really shoehorns you into using a certain playstyle for a specified race, class or weapon. Having a few classes like "Dragon knight" and "shadow archer" or whatever they are called ignores what's good about the single player games.first of all, we're still talking about an MMO, not a single player game. second of all, ESO doesn't exactly force you to stick to your class. in fact, the classes are really vague for a reason, so they're much easier to hybrid
You could play as a monk who plays unarmoured and supplements hand to hand skills with restoration and alteration, or you could play as a mage archer who uses conjuration and illusion to distract your enemies while you sneak in the background shooting arrows, and so on.you can do all of those things in ESO??
In ESO, all that is lost in favour of having a few contrived class archetypes - if you're a certain race you must use x weapon or you won't get any benefits, different types of armour give arbitrary bonuses to different playstyles, et cetera.i don't know how the system worked when it was launched at first, but I can tell you that's not the thing anymore. I'm an Argonian and I'm using both two handed and restorations staffs with ease. Race doesn't impact your gameplay at all, unless you choose a race that benefits your class/skills.
I have to agree with Dulcet here, the main reason the game gets so much flak is either from people that came into the game expecting an Elder Scrolls 6 rather than an MMORPG or from people throwing around outdated information that is no longer true (the state of the game at launch vs. today is vastly different, it is much better now)
What exactly do you mean by "spirit" of those games?
I'd say the game offers a lot more gameplay freedom than most other MMOs out there, you can explore every zone right from the start and aren't locked out of things because of level requirements or anything like that. If you're that much against the concept of classes I guess it's hard to convince you, but from a balance perspective they make sense.
I'd say the game offers a lot more gameplay freedom than most other MMOs out there, you can explore every zone right from the start and aren't locked out of things because of level requirements or anything like that. If you're that much against the concept of classes I guess it's hard to convince you, but from a balance perspective they make sense.
There are heaps of things that I could go into, but I'm not going to go into an exhaustive comparison because it's been a while since I've played ESO and I don't particularly feel like doing a lot of research just for the sake of this argument. But suffice to say, it's fundamentally different in a lot of ways, like the class system and the gameplay reliance on all of these class/weapon/race specific hotkey spamming. Just because it's an MMO, doesn't mean that it has have all of the tropes of all other MMOs and forsake what made the TES games popular. It's just lazy game design. I could come up with something that could work in an MMO yet stayed true to the typical skills-based system the other TES games have.
The whole point of my argument is that ESO is just like other MMOs, but Runescape is an example showing that there is no law of nature that says you have to design an MMO a certain way. ESO may be fine for people who already flip between 5 other MMOs, but it has no resemblance to the Elder Scrolls games and nothing to offer people who play them.DaddyCoolVipper wrote: 4p47
Runescape is very unique as an MMORPG though, it's not really something you should compare to other MMOs
I haven't seen much about the game, but as far as I'm aware they did some heavy work on it since it had that shambles of a release. Maybe it's a decent game now, like Heroes of the Storm managed to be with the release of 2.0 and months of great updates.
Personally not interested in ESO since the Elder Scrolls world doesn't fascinate me, but yeah. It sounds like most of your criticisms come from a class system existing, which is there for two reasons- balance, and to keep the traditional RPG fantasy that has existed since the earliest pen+paper RPGs.
Personally not interested in ESO since the Elder Scrolls world doesn't fascinate me, but yeah. It sounds like most of your criticisms come from a class system existing, which is there for two reasons- balance, and to keep the traditional RPG fantasy that has existed since the earliest pen+paper RPGs.
I don't think you have enough of a grasp of either ESO or the Elder Scrolls games to comment.DaddyCoolVipper wrote: 4p47
Personally not interested in ESO since the Elder Scrolls world doesn't fascinate me, but yeah. It sounds like most of your criticisms come from a class system existing, which is there for two reasons- balance, and to keep the traditional RPG fantasy that has existed since the earliest pen+paper RPGs.
Funny thing with Runescape though, I hearing that lots of people got permabanned because they protested some LGBT pride event.
I mean, just about all of your criticism are complaints how the class system limits the gameplay variety you can have on a single character. Class systems do that fundamentally, so you're complaining about the class system existing.
I understand Elder Scrolls games have often allowed a lot of freedom in what your character does, but let's be honest, they encourage speccing into a single style too- just with less punishment in order to be nice to people who over-build their characters. I.e. you get talent points (or whatever) per level, and the time between levels gets slower and slower, meaning you find it harder and harder to branch out as you build up your character's skills.
I understand Elder Scrolls games have often allowed a lot of freedom in what your character does, but let's be honest, they encourage speccing into a single style too- just with less punishment in order to be nice to people who over-build their characters. I.e. you get talent points (or whatever) per level, and the time between levels gets slower and slower, meaning you find it harder and harder to branch out as you build up your character's skills.
I played ESO like 4 months ago, and unless they overhauled the game from scratch I know what I'm talking about.Foxtrot wrote: 2l233p
To me it sounds like you haven't even played ESO since launch days and because it's such a different game now I don't think you can comment either without trying it out again
Also the people who got banned for protesting were the ones who spammed bigoted shit or roleplayed as KKK while spamming racism etc.
Every single person who said that they'd been unfairly banned were proven wrong, with evidence. Any self-respecting community would've banned those people; the ingame event wasn't even anything special at all. 6 ingame floor tiles total where you go around the world and collect colours for a leprechaun's rainbow-coloured scarf.
People threw mega autistic tantrums and wrote up a bunch of anti-LGBT shit accusing Jagex of "shoving politics down their throats, unpolled!!". When the event actually happened in game, nobody cared about it, and it made all the "protesters" look like the bunch of complete idiots that they are.
Every single person who said that they'd been unfairly banned were proven wrong, with evidence. Any self-respecting community would've banned those people; the ingame event wasn't even anything special at all. 6 ingame floor tiles total where you go around the world and collect colours for a leprechaun's rainbow-coloured scarf.
People threw mega autistic tantrums and wrote up a bunch of anti-LGBT shit accusing Jagex of "shoving politics down their throats, unpolled!!". When the event actually happened in game, nobody cared about it, and it made all the "protesters" look like the bunch of complete idiots that they are.
Yes, because they dressed up as KKK , said shit like "We pay, we say, no fags, no gays" and other horrifically awful stuff.B1rd wrote: 4w393k
Funny thing with Runescape though, I hearing that lots of people got permabanned because they protested some LGBT pride event.
This was all because of a rainbow colored scarf.
Awful fuckin' community.
Then I literally never encountered any of the problems that you have said because I optimize in two-handed swords and restoration staffs with ease, and I have no problem switching from evasion tank to healer and sometimes ranged DPS when needed during a dungeon. I have never felt like the game was forcing me to stick to one class/weapon. So I don't know if you're just projecting or if you just haven't played enough to get enough skill points where you can really branch out. Also, most armor specializes in Health/Stamina/Magicka and their extra effects usually are Physical/Magical penetration and strengthening certain Enchantments (and other obvious ones like extra gold/XP etc) but I have literally never seen an armor that specializes in only ONE class.B1rd wrote: 4w393k
I played ESO like 4 months ago, and unless they overhauled the game from scratch I know what I'm talking about.Foxtrot wrote: 2l233p
To me it sounds like you haven't even played ESO since launch days and because it's such a different game now I don't think you can comment either without trying it out again
Funny thing with Runescape though, I hearing that lots of people got permabanned because they protested some LGBT pride event.I'm pretty sure Runescape has an anti-homophobe policy in their rules and since those people broke such rules the mods had every right to ban them. Also, what happened to loving the free market and respecting the rights of companies to do whatever they wish?
That why I said you don't have much grasp on my argument or the game. I'm not particularly against a class system existing, every ES game except Skyrim has had a class system (the ES games have progressively been dumbed down). The problem is with how the particular class system works and how skills are implemented in the game.DaddyCoolVipper wrote: 4p47
I mean, just about all of your criticism are complaints how the class system limits the gameplay variety you can have on a single character. Class systems do that fundamentally, so you're complaining about the class system existing.
I understand Elder Scrolls games have often allowed a lot of freedom in what your character does, but let's be honest, they encourage speccing into a single style too- just with less punishment in order to be nice to people who over-build their characters. I.e. you get talent points (or whatever) per level, and the time between levels gets slower and slower, meaning you find it harder and harder to branch out as you build up your character's skills.
Is "LGBT" your trigger word to take sides on any issue? The community was definitely overwhelmingly against such a thing, it was just a, if I may be permitted to use the word, toxic incursion of political agenda into a game that people play as a means of escapism. And when is became apparent that the community didn't want it? And this is Reddit, one of the most left-wing mainstream sites on the internet.DaddyCoolVipper wrote: 4p47
People threw mega autistic tantrums and wrote up a bunch of anti-LGBT shit accusing Jagex of "shoving politics down their throats, unpolled!!". When the event actually happened in game, nobody cared about it, and it made all the "protesters" look like the bunch of complete idiots that they are.
Just because I respect someone's right to do something, doesn't mean I agree with it.Foxtrot wrote: 2l233p
I'm pretty sure Runescape has an anti-homophobe policy in their rules and since those people broke such rules the mods had every right to ban them. Also, what happened to loving the free market and respecting the rights of companies to do whatever they wish?
So I suppose that if you don't the forced incursion of political agenda into entertainment media you're a homophobe right? Things like this are perfectly fine? https://puu.sh/wDQmR/4c1577378b.webm
How'd you make it? I make beef bone broth occasionally which is really good. Never made some homemade ramen though.Foxtrot wrote: 2l233p
oh by the way, I made my own ramen broth last night and it was quite good AMA