determinism is just as ridiculous as spiritualism
B1rd wrote: 4w393k
I have definite principles and opinions. Yet what is the worth of them in an environment where leverage is only gained though sucking the dick of the various higher-ups, who think that this game is their own little kingdom where they delight in inflicting their arbitrary will upon other people. It's a bit hard to 'fight' anything in this location, where my only means of communication can be deleted and revoked if it goes against the agenda of these established people. But before you call me ineffectual, maybe you should ask yourself where half the old population of this subforum has gone. Where there's a will there's a way, don't think that some casual commentary by me is a serious attempt to 'fight' anything.
[Taiga] wrote: 4k1228
Fuck off from HW maps. Go back playing your beloved garbage fycho and tayenyang maps.Blitzfrog wrote: 2a3s
Insert every single Hollow Wing map here thx
U r too weak to play HW maps, that's all.
With that kind of thinking, you can never trust anyone to help you get off your knees. And eventually you need to retire and give someone else the torch.B1rd wrote: 4w393k
I'm only talking about people's ability to moderate online communities, and people's ability to handle authority in general. To just give someone else power over yourself and trust them to act responsibly is a bad idea.
you should leave then and go somewhere with no moderation, as much as I complain about them having mods >>> not having modsB1rd wrote: 4w393k
I'm only talking about people's ability to moderate online communities, and people's ability to handle authority in general. To just give someone else power over yourself and trust them to act responsibly is a bad idea.
Oh what's the matter? having 4/5 of the BNs in your mode being inaccessible because they do mod by their own accord or being "too busy" isn't so bad.ColdTooth wrote: 1g2nr
I don't even like the new QAT/BN system, way too fucking confusing and difficult to rank a map now.
Like honestly, my last ranked map was in late 2014, and that was already hard enough to rank a map. Now it seems I can't get any attention either because not enough people, or they forget, or they don't like the song/map. Either way, it pisses me off. Like, I want to rank maps, but if this system is going to get harder and harder, then what's the point if they're going to look at other mappers who have been mapping for 6 years and go 'ok instant rank'.Stefan wrote: 5nd6l
Oh what's the matter? having 4/5 of the BNs in your mode being inaccessible because they do mod by their own accord or being "too busy" isn't so bad.ColdTooth wrote: 1g2nr
I don't even like the new QAT/BN system, way too fucking confusing and difficult to rank a map now.
I don't know how Standard mappers can even complain.
Or maybe I'm having very bad luck in finding the right people.Stefan wrote: 5nd6l
I am mapping since six years.ColdTooth wrote: 1g2nr
..then what's the point if they're going to look at other mappers who have been mapping for 6 years and go 'ok instant rank'.
I am probably too patient.
*quickly runs away*viptwo wrote: 642es
What
If everyone follows your advice and begins mapping/getting things ranked, 1) there will be a boom in Pending maps which would make ranking a map take even more time than it takes now, and 2) it would make the Ranked status absolutely worthless.Stefan wrote: 5nd6l
Well, it really doesn't. Bad maps are getting ranked anyways so that shouldn't hesitate you to get something ranked.
Same dude, except I have a 4:55 map, so right now I just took stuff out to make it 4:30abraker wrote: 6cx2d
Fuck the 5 minute marathon thing. I want to map one difficulty, pour all my love and hard work into it and be proud of that one baby. Unfortunately, 4:24 needs to have 2 more difficulties. It took 1.5 months to map a 4.67 star map that long. I have work, I have a life, and I can't be bothered with making more than that. I can't be bothered mapping more than one diff of anything long than 2:30. I'd rather complain about the lack of ranked maps than waste my time doing this.
Oh hear this:
this is a numbers name not a rhythm game
- Newbie: Will you map this for me?
Veteran: Read rules, map it yourself
Newbie: ok...
<later>
Newbie: I made a new map! Wanna play it?
Veteran: Your map is cancer. Why are you mapping 9 stars?
Newbie: <sad face>
<later>
Newbie: I made a new map! Wanna play it?
Veteran: Not bad, you should go for rank!
Newbie: okai ^_^
<later>
Newbie: It took my daytime job and my first born, but the full difficulty spread for a 4:30 map is finally complete!
Veteran: Nice here is a star. Go get mods
Newbie: oh ok... ^_^
<later>
Newbie: Nobody wants to mod my map. They are all busy!!! >_<
Veteran: Gotta looks some more
Newbie:![]()
<later>
Newbie: Map is ranked. Took like a year. Lost my brain in some drama over a slider, but it's ok now
Veteran: Sweet. How much pp does it give?
Newbie: Maybe 200 on DTHR
Veteran: Eh ok...
Newbie: ... so I... uh rank more maps?
Veteran: ye ye, we always need more maps!
<later>
Newbie: Ranked a new map!
Veteran: OH HO pp shower!
Newbie: Yay!
Others: "Fucking pp map" "oh pp" "pogchamp cookiezi 900pp"
Newbie: Wow I like people liking my map. People like numbers.
<later>
Veteran: So it looks like you are having so such a fun time mapping
Newbie: Yea, people like these jumps for some reason, so I make some more of them here and there
Veteran: Your maps are all jumps. How about some interesting sliders here and there?
Newbie: I learned this is a numbers name not a rhythm game
this is a numbers name not a rhythm game
/satire
/rant
Thats good i got pretty bad pm when i ask for modBlitzfrog wrote: 2a3s
Just wanna put this out there, that mapping is heavily based on aesthetics and space emphasis. So if you do both you can map a 7* and no mappers (not players) will flame too much even if you're a newbie.
I'm new to mapping, mapped a 7*, mostly positive comment right now soo...
here check it outhttps://osu-ppy-sh.jeuxcrack.net/s/530545
UGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH another oneBlitzfrog wrote: 2a3s
Just wanna put this out there, that mapping is heavily based on aesthetics and space emphasis. So if you do both you can map a 7* and no mappers (not players) will flame too much even if you're a newbie.
I'm new to mapping, mapped a 7*, mostly positive comment right now soo...
here check it outhttps://osu-ppy-sh.jeuxcrack.net/s/530545
me too thanksEphemeral wrote: 4k296t
iTT: SUBJECTIVE LUL MEGALUL OPINIONS IN 2017 haha How The Fuck Are BN Opinions Real Just Like Close The Mapping Thread And Walk Away hahahahaha you suck at mapping even though your maps have like 20 million plays i played this game once for 20 minutes and thought it was hard so i have an opinionon your work
Are you fucking kidding me LOL
GRAVEYARD BOYS
take me by the hand BN MAN lead me to the land OF THE MAPS THAT YOU UNDERSTAND
THE CRUST OF A TAN QAT IMBIBED BY THE EXAM soaking up the CREATIVITY OF THE MAPPERS
Annnnnd mutual please?Ephemeral wrote: 4k296t
proud of u blitzfrog
Also I haven't received negative comment for zat map dude, I am physicist, I prove through trying to prove myself wrong bruhN0thingSpecial wrote: 3t6c4t
UGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH another one
K look positive comments means shit since it only revalidate your presumption that you made something good which doesn't mean the map itself is good
AgreedB1rd wrote: 4w393k
The ranking people don't just rank maps based on 'quality', they rank maps based on the current gaming meta. High-AR anime map with overmapped jumps? You're golden. Have a map that is creative, niche, or hard to play for casual pp farmers? Prepare for one hell of a fight to get your map ranked.
Just be famous and deny any suggestions it's really not as hard as you describe it to be xdB1rd wrote: 4w393k
The ranking people don't just rank maps based on 'quality', they rank maps based on the current gaming meta. High-AR anime map with overmapped jumps? You're golden. Have a map that is creative, niche, or hard to play for casual pp farmers? Prepare for one hell of a fight to get your map ranked.
are you salty just because people hate your mapsB1rd wrote: 4w393k
The ranking people don't just rank maps based on 'quality', they rank maps based on the current gaming meta. High-AR anime map with overmapped jumps? You're golden. Have a map that is creative, niche, or hard to play for casual pp farmers? Prepare for one hell of a fight to get your map ranked.
To be fair, he makes a good point here. Sorry mahoMahogany wrote: 4pak
are you salty just because people hate your mapsB1rd wrote: 4w393k
The ranking people don't just rank maps based on 'quality', they rank maps based on the current gaming meta. High-AR anime map with overmapped jumps? You're golden. Have a map that is creative, niche, or hard to play for casual pp farmers? Prepare for one hell of a fight to get your map ranked.
your maps are actually shit and they don't even capture the essence of "old-style mapping" that you're going for, they're bad even by old standards
But the point of modding is for someone else to proofread your map before you hand it in to the crowd. The drama resulting from it is equivalent to grammar nazis arguing over whether to a comma is, really needed to be in a sentence or notHobbes2 wrote: 28485y
It is my personal opinion (mine alone, this is not representative of my institution) that maps should be ranked upon being submitted, to avoid as much drama as possible. I have personally submitted a request to peppy for this change, no response yet. I'll keep you guys informed!
You forgot a full stop at the end of your sentence, sir.abraker wrote: 6cx2d
But the point of modding is for someone else to proofread your map before you hand it in to the crowd. The drama resulting from it is equivalent to grammar nazis arguing over whether to a comma is, really needed to be in a sentence or not
baitingHobbes2 wrote: 28485y
It is my personal opinion (mine alone, this is not representative of my institution) that maps should be ranked upon being submitted, to avoid as much drama as possible. I have personally submitted a request to peppy for this change, no response yet. I'll keep you guys informed!
It would be interesting to see a system where every map was ranked, and if it was found to be low in quality (i.e., against the ranked requirements), it would be graveyarded. However, this would cause even more drama as people would start pumping out PP maps like a water from a hose. And if they are graveyarded, the PP earned would have to be refunded, which would cause extreme anger in the community.Hobbes2 wrote: 28485y
It is my personal opinion (mine alone, this is not representative of my institution) that maps should be ranked upon being submitted, to avoid as much drama as possible. I have personally submitted a request to peppy for this change, no response yet. I'll keep you guys informed!
so almost like ripple?johnmedina999 wrote: 3r3a6s
It would be interesting to see a system where every map was ranked, and if it was found to be low in quality (i.e., against the ranked requirements), it would be graveyarded. However, this would cause even more drama as people would start pumping out PP maps like a water from a hose. And if they are graveyarded, the PP earned would have to be refunded, which would cause extreme anger in the community.Hobbes2 wrote: 28485y
It is my personal opinion (mine alone, this is not representative of my institution) that maps should be ranked upon being submitted, to avoid as much drama as possible. I have personally submitted a request to peppy for this change, no response yet. I'll keep you guys informed!
Sorry, I'm not familiar with that game. But if it works for them, I would like to see it in action. Anything where the community s something to a centralized server must have quality control. But the situation Hobbes2 suggested would be absolutely chaotic the way I see it.abraker wrote: 6cx2d
ripple
It doesn't have quality control. I quit after chugging down a couple 4k 7 star maps down my throat, giving me 500pp or so each. No point in playing for numbers after that.johnmedina999 wrote: 3r3a6s
Sorry, I'm not familiar with that game. But if it works for them, I would like to see it in action. Anything where the community s something to a centralized server must have quality control. But the situation Hobbes2 suggested would be absolutely chaotic the way I see it.abraker wrote: 6cx2d
ripple
because ranking centipede is a good ideaHobbes2 wrote: 28485y
No, the thing is every map is good it's hard to subjectively quantify a map as good or bad. For example, this map has its own good qualities and the current ranking system unfortunately does not give it an opportunity. An autoranking system would do just that and would really enhance this games' competitive attributes. This also solves the problem of pp maps, as pp becoming irrelevant is a good way to disincentivize pp mapping.