HoboEater wrote: 3f5z1m

Not sure if cutting was supposed to fit under here, but I don't consider it mixing fx.

Yes, its not an effect but its still mixing. Apparently I need to reword it to be more clear.

HoboEater wrote: 3f5z1m

Yes. I won't say who, but I have more than enough evidence that its cut since I did it myself. The point is that I think cutting is a stupid rule and can't be enforced unless it super obvious.

Good for you.
We enforce it if its obvious as you can see, if its seamless, good for them.

tHampton wrote: 4h501g

So I fought back a little on the key change debate because that's editing the instrumental, not the vocal. But putting together different pieces of a vocal is essentially editing your performance and not giving a true representation (the term for this is "comping," by the way, which is a step people take when mixing a song).

You have the opportunity to do as many takes as you want in this competition, just pick the best one of those. If you can't give a good performance in a single take with a whole month to prepare and re-record, honestly you probably don't deserve to move on anyway. *Prepares for backlash*

this

tHampton wrote: 4h501g

So I fought back a little on the key change debate because that's editing the instrumental, not the vocal. But putting together different pieces of a vocal is essentially editing your performance and not giving a true representation (the term for this is "comping," by the way, which is a step people take when mixing a song).
You have the opportunity to do as many takes as you want in this competition, just pick the best one of those. If you can't give a good performance in a single take with a whole month to prepare and re-record, honestly you probably don't deserve to move on anyway. *Prepares for backlash*

preach

Well I see the original rules were now edited. So lets get this clear.
ALL of the DQs (and excluding troll/404 submissions) are made up of edited cuts.
I think its pretty clear that the original rules were shit if every single DQ was breaking the exact same rule.

Maybe there's a good reason why people use cuts? You might argue that oh why can't you do it in a single take or you have a whole month to prepare.

Doing a single take is way harder than you think, especially if the song is 3 minutes or longer. You screw up once and you have to listen to the whole thing again so it doesn't count as being cut. That's just stupid. This isn't some live audition; its perfectly reasonable to use cuts to save time and give the best pieces of your vocal performance.

It's so stupid to see entries like this https://soundcloud.com/ikkoe/once-upon- ... i-applella get DQ'd because of cutting.

I don't like arguing, but just saw your posts and I think like... yes, it's not live auditions but changing judging now and letting cutted entries isn't kinda unfair with people who made effort to record in one sitting?

Emma55525 wrote: z5w3

I don't like arguing, but just saw your posts and I think like... yes, it's not live auditions but changing judging now and letting cutted entries isn't kinda unfair with people who made effort to record in one sitting?

From what I've read, the entries can be rejudged. And the judging has already been changed literally an hour ago. The rules were updated to "mixing fx is not allowed" to "track mixing is not allowed". These are completely different. Not letting cut entries is much more unfair. It works both ways.

HoboEater wrote: 3f5z1m

From what I've read, the entries can be rejudged. And the judging has already been changed literally an hour ago. The rules were updated to "mixing fx is not allowed" to "track mixing is not allowed". These are completely different. Not letting cut entries is much more unfair. It works both ways.

Yet I there were several times someone asked in topic if it has to be recorded in one sitting so everyone should be aware of that. As you said - recording in one sitting is way harder but most people did it, tho they probably wanted to do cuts many times. If you were one of those people, wouldn't you feel like you lost your time? Being unaware of rules doen't make you allowed to break them and breaking rules is to be punished. Fighting for changing rules now is way too unfair.

Emma55525 wrote: z5w3

HoboEater wrote: 3f5z1m

From what I've read, the entries can be rejudged. And the judging has already been changed literally an hour ago. The rules were updated to "mixing fx is not allowed" to "track mixing is not allowed". These are completely different. Not letting cut entries is much more unfair. It works both ways.

Yet I there were several times someone asked in topic if it has to be recorded in one sitting so everyone should be aware of that. As you said - recording in one sitting is way harder but most people did it, tho they probably wanted to do cuts many times. If you were one of those people, wouldn't you feel like you lost your time? Being unaware of rules doen't make you allowed to break them and breaking rules is to be punished. Fighting for changing rules now is way too unfair.

Maybe it was mentioned somewhere, but that's ridiculous because it wasn't mentioned in the original rules. You don't bury extra rules in the middle of a thread. Anyways from what I've seen so far, no one has been disqualified for not breaking the rules in a single take. I'm sorry to all those who spent lots of time doing a single take, but trust me, the feeling of being DQ'd for not breaking rules is a much worse feeling.

This was never buried. Mixing was never allowed in osu!idol (excluding finals). Cutting falls under it.
I'm not here to argue, so I will not. I apologise if the rule didn't give the proper information.

Flanster wrote: 2k4e1s

This was never buried. Mixing was never allowed in osu!idol (excluding finals). Cutting falls under it.
I'm not here to argue, so I will not. I apologise if the rule didn't give the proper information.

^this

Also going to add, if your first entry got disqualified, please do not resubmit the old one unedited or submit a new entry.

the rules are the same each year cutting has been a form of editing and that is why we ask you to do it in one sitting, that being said I think s are getting our finals rules mixed up with the stage rules. It has not changed since I ran it I have no idea where any of you are getting this from lol.

Due to my voice not being very clear, as said in the docs, and it blending with the BGM, should i make a new recording..? or just leave it for the judges to decide what to do with the recording that's already been sent in?

Emma55525 wrote: z5w3

I don't like arguing, but just saw your posts and I think like... yes, it's not live auditions but changing judging now and letting cutted entries isn't kinda unfair with people who made effort to record in one sitting?

The whole point I guess is to make it like a live audition... Idols get selected in live auditions, where only a single "one shot" performance matters, not a whole work of "producing"

Can you do a duet with someone who doesn't have a osu! as long as long as it is for this competition?

Flanster wrote: 2k4e1s

This was never buried. Mixing was never allowed in osu!idol (excluding finals). Cutting falls under it.
I'm not here to argue, so I will not. I apologise if the rule didn't give the proper information.

Really... You're not here to argue? Should I address my concerns over to peppy?

Maybe I'm not making my point clear. As I've said the original rules were ambiguous of what mixing fx meant. I think most would think that cutting is not considered a mixing fx. Mixing effects would be directly editing your voice such as changing the pitch or adding reverb effects. And you even edited the rules afterwards to make it clear that track mixing is not allowed. This edit happened after people were already DQ'd. Saying this was never allowed in the previous year either is not a valid point.

The least I propose is rejudging the few that got DQ'd in the registration phase and clarifying it for future rounds.

And for consideration in the future, I still think cutting should be allowed. It's perfectly reasonable for someone to save time by combining their best vocal tracks together instead of doing a one take. If there's a long break in the middle of the song you can't seriously think that we will sit through it a bunch of times if we mess up. Maybe there's a huge pitch change in between a verse and it's awkward to sing well. Maybe the song is really long or has a lot of high notes and we need a break in between.

I'm sure lot more people are doing it than you may think, and the only ones being punished are those with obvious cuts (an entry that I mixed for someone got a ).

Or maybe you think that its unfair that those who know how to mix have an advantage over those who don't? It's literally as easy as making a slideshow in windows movie maker. We are even encouraged to mix in the finals!!! If you don't know how to mix then you're in huge trouble later on.

Sorry for dragging this on.

I am so (semi) hyped to enter. Don't know what i'm gonna sing. Probably queen. Im fucked anyways.

StaticImages wrote: 6s5q38

Due to my voice not being very clear, as said in the docs, and it blending with the BGM, should i make a new recording..? or just leave it for the judges to decide what to do with the recording that's already been sent in?

At this time, please do not submit another entry. Your entry is marked in yellow so it is still under evaluation. Submitting a new entry now could very possibly result in you being disqualified.

Jellyblob56 wrote: 6l1u62

Can you do a duet with someone who doesn't have a osu! as long as long as it is for this competition?

No.

HoboEater wrote: 3f5z1m

Flanster wrote: 2k4e1s

This was never buried. Mixing was never allowed in osu!idol (excluding finals). Cutting falls under it.
I'm not here to argue, so I will not. I apologise if the rule didn't give the proper information.

Really... You're not here to argue? Should I address my concerns over to peppy?

Maybe I'm not making my point clear. As I've said the original rules were ambiguous of what mixing fx meant. I think most would think that cutting is not considered a mixing fx. Mixing effects would be directly editing your voice such as changing the pitch or adding reverb effects. And you even edited the rules afterwards to make it clear that track mixing is not allowed. This edit happened after people were already DQ'd. Saying this was never allowed in the previous year either is not a valid point.

The least I propose is rejudging the few that got DQ'd in the registration phase and clarifying it for future rounds.

And for consideration in the future, I still think cutting should be allowed. It's perfectly reasonable for someone to save time by combining their best vocal tracks together instead of doing a one take. If there's a long break in the middle of the song you can't seriously think that we will sit through it a bunch of times if we mess up. Maybe there's a huge pitch change in between a verse and it's awkward to sing well. Maybe the song is really long or has a lot of high notes and we need a break in between.

I'm sure lot more people are doing it than you may think, and the only ones being punished are those with obvious cuts (an entry that I mixed for someone got a ).

Or maybe you think that its unfair that those who know how to mix have an advantage over those who don't? It's literally as easy as making a slideshow in windows movie maker. We are even encouraged to mix in the finals!!! If you don't know how to mix then you're in huge trouble later on.

Sorry for dragging this on.

Sorry but now you're just nitpicking. I'm sure those who werent very familiar with audio editing have asked someone who could. There hasn't been any problem like this so far. I could even offer my assistance if a problem like this arises.
I've already apologised and have said the rule wasn't clear enough. Cutting was never allowed and it won't be, thats final.

Backsound isn't one of the judging points right?
Cause I've post with low quality backsound T.T

DaJoeyElMacho wrote: 2b37

Backsound isn't one of the judging points right?
Cause I've post with low quality backsound T.T

we judge voice, not bgm

[Hiiro Sakaki] wrote: 1zsy

The whole point I guess is to make it like a live audition... Idols get selected in live auditions, where only a single "one shot" performance matters, not a whole work of "producing"

That makes sense, I haven't even thought about it this way, tho it's so easy and it seems so correct >w<
Well, it makes no-cutting rule even more obvious now

Have you decided with the amount of entry and entered, will it be top 100 / 75 / 50 after this registration stage?
Thank you 😊😊

Zeva[FL] wrote: 6w6c26

Have you decided with the amount of entry and entered, will it be top 100 / 75 / 50 after this registration stage?
Thank you 😊😊

With as small of an amount of ing entries as there are, and depending how much more come in at the finish, it is likely we may do top 75 or top 50.

Top 50 will be the most likely scenario.

Heres a bonus: timelapse video of checking stuff

Flanster wrote: 2k4e1s

Top 50 will be the most likely scenario.

Heres a bonus: timelapse video of checking stuff

Flan's stress in real time

Ganbatte Flanster !!

excuse my breathing

SHIT I SUBMITTED MY FILE IN .M4A FUCK MY LFIE kms oh well

Wahhhh only 4 days left and my friend still didnt submit her entry She got sick just as her exam ended and now cant record D: Piyooooo you have to get better before the limit D:
Hoped for enough entry for Top100 i thought maybe i could through registration but with only top 50 its scarier D:
Oh and I saw my favorite song title in the entry list but barely able to recognize the song with the entry D: oh well x)

Lacrimae wrote: 3y4cm

excuse my breathing

SHIT I SUBMITTED MY FILE IN .M4A FUCK MY LFIE kms oh well

Dude that almost happened to my friend xd. Inb4 I get disqualified, at this point I am just going to bet that I am.

I feel the discrimination against screams :^)
Was fun to do though, good luck to everyone es Judges, I hate you >.> Jk don't kill me ;w;

Btw am I disqualified because I broke a rule or I just don't because my entry was not good enough?

[Hiiro Sakaki] wrote: 1zsy

I feel the discrimination against screams :^)
Was fun to do though, good luck to everyone es Judges, I hate you >.> Jk don't kill me ;w;

Btw am I disqualified because I broke a rule or I just don't because my entry was not good enough?

Probably just bad sound management. Doubt they disqualify screaming metal like sort some sort of discrimination.

Now I think about it, what are the ing participants going to do about the ROCK/METAL songs in stage 4... I'm planning to do OP 2 from Death Note if I even get that far. I'm a bit worried hah.

These are evaluations, whoever es, es registrations.

Lacrimae wrote: 3y4cm

excuse my breathing

SHIT I SUBMITTED MY FILE IN .M4A FUCK MY LFIE kms oh well

I can still open it in the browser so no worries, converting it to mp3 is a 5 sec job if anything.

[Hiiro Sakaki] wrote: 1zsy

I feel the discrimination against screams :^)
Was fun to do though, good luck to everyone es Judges, I hate you >.> Jk don't kill me ;w;

Btw am I disqualified because I broke a rule or I just don't because my entry was not good enough?

I highly doubt we can even judge that.

xSynchronize wrote: 104d4z

Probably just bad sound management. Doubt they disqualify screaming metal like sort some sort of discrimination.

Oh I never thought of it seriously, was just kidding :^)

Flanster wrote: 2k4e1s

I highly doubt we can even judge that.

Well too bad, I hope at least you kinda enjoy it c: S A V A G E

I did actually, you were pretty good at it B)

Flanster wrote: 2k4e1s

I did actually, you were pretty good at it B)

Well thanks to the contest I discovered I could sing those. Inb4 cover of the whole 漢's undead corporation album

xSynchronize wrote: 104d4z

Now I think about it, what are the ing participants going to do about the ROCK/METAL songs in stage 4... I'm planning to do OP 2 from Death Note if I even get that far. I'm a bit worried hah.

Well I guess it'll be more about clean rock/metal such as One Ok Rock, or anime rock (LiSA, Babymetal, or equivalent). Metal clean song would go to the thrash metal, and some post-hardcore/metalcore songs

EDIT : Ty Flan

> Accidentally submits mp3 to friends
> Friends make a beatmap out of it
> Becomes a meme
> ...

Yeah I can live with it.

-Nitrous wrote: 624d57

> Accidentally submits mp3 to friends
> Friends make a beatmap out of it
> Becomes a meme
> ...

Yeah I can live with it.

since more people are voting i'm just going to throw in my input here.

the poll question is specifically "which is more convenient?" not "which is best?". obviously more convenient would be to just pick one of the three finalists, because it's quick, easy, and you only have to pick the one you think is the best.

rating on a scale of 1-10 is harder and will take more time and effort for people (and i assume it would make people actually listen to all 3), meaning less votes. the votes you do get might have more meaning, but to be honest rating three entries on a scale of 1-10 if they're all really good will just result in a lot of high ratings and not a lot of difference (or troll 0 ratings which are even worse).

maybe ranking the three entries as 1st 2nd 3rd would be a good balance if the first option wins.

Catgirl wrote: 662g33

maybe ranking the three entries as 1st 2nd 3rd would be a good balance if the first option wins.

that's a good idea
could weigh via points then, 3 points for 1st, 2 points for 2nd and 1 for 3rd or something, similar to how they do it on top xx osu! players votings

Do you know when the due date is for the 2nd judging

kungfump wrote: 1h5g5s

Do you know when the due date is for the 2nd judging

Starting July 1, there will be 1 week for judging, then another week for registrations for the next round. So those submissions will most likely be due July 15.

I'd like to apologise to everyone who was unfortunate enough to hear my entry.

Catgirl wrote: 662g33

maybe ranking the three entries as 1st 2nd 3rd would be a good balance if the first option wins.

That actually would be the best way.
Though I don't think the form s that way of evaluation, might have to do some functions on the main document.
I'll try it out.

Drunk poll D:

[Hiiro Sakaki] wrote: 1zsy

Drunk poll D:

plus twitter one 52/48
usually polls i've done were onesided haha

you are condemned to make the decision

[Hiiro Sakaki] wrote: 1zsy

you are condemned to make the decision

Im considering Catgirl's suggestion, I'll close the polls, that 50/50 is enough of a result.

I'm a bit late this year but hell yes I'm ing.

It took some time because I had to write the lyrics eheheHEHE

I hope you enjoy

Flanster wrote: 2k4e1s

[Hiiro Sakaki] wrote: 1zsy

you are condemned to make the decision

Im considering Catgirl's suggestion, I'll close the polls, that 50/50 is enough of a result.

It would be the easiest and cause the least confusion, and that's what we need after all this madness :U

I sneezed more than I have recording takes.

i kinda know the answer but i'll ask it anyway(not sure if it was asked in this thread prior).. can i cut the song to at least the first two minutes/second chorus?

domSaur wrote: 2t3q71

i kinda know the answer but i'll ask it anyway(not sure if it was asked in this thread prior).. can i cut the song to at least the first two minutes/second chorus?

you can shorten it yea

*waits to submit on the last day* lawl

just kiddin

Pawsu wrote: 1vn6x

*waits to submit on the last day* lawl

just kiddin

YOU DISSAPOINT ME WIFEY.

I got mine in outside the 24 hour procrastination window, so that's something at least

E: Just checked the google doc, OzzyOzrock wins

tHampton wrote: 4h501g

I got mine in outside the 24 hour procrastination window, so that's something at least

E: Just checked the google doc, OzzyOzrock wins

I expected that tbh. Just wondering if Sharlo/yealina will take part.

Also I'm pleased to announce we hit 100 entries that have ed so far, that will guarantee a scenario of Top 75/100.

tHampton wrote: 4h501g

I got mine in outside the 24 hour procrastination window, so that's something at least

E: Just checked the google doc, OzzyOzrock wins

i love you

Ozzy's entry lifted my mood after some of the less than enjoyable entries I had listened to

YO BUT I PROMISE I'LL TRY NEXT TIME THOUGH I'M SORRY LMAO

but me after listening to Ozzy's entry

I know this question is way too early to be asked, but since I already have my songs for each stage picked out, is it okay if I sing only ONE song has only ONE swear word (The F word) in it that is said around one to two times?

I'm sad Piyo wont be participating D: Q-Q

First she makes me participate and then she get sick and cant enter with me D:

Well I need to get far for her now! x)

Should prolly start looking for another song i wanna sing if i can this x) But every song i wanna sing i can't D: Oh well.. (Maybe i should stop trying to sing IA songs too x) ) And so many amazing entry im not even sure I'll this D: But now i need to cuz i have to be good for Piyo!

_Kitteh wrote: 2w1n3y

I know this question is way too early to be asked, but since I already have my songs for each stage picked out, is it okay if I sing only ONE song has only ONE swear word (The F word) in it that is said around one to two times?

Yeah thats fine.

really excited to participate with my boy IGNITE


hopefully we weren't too late in submission, i literally stayed up all night to finish this lol......


fingers crossed it was worth it, submitted via the form but listen and let us know what YOU THINK, hopefully something a little different

https://soundcloud.com/-13159710/os ... the-garden

im the growly one and he's the not growly one

7h and a bit left to submit /o\
*unpacks recording equipment*

Endaris wrote: 6j5f7

7h and a bit left to submit /o\
*unpacks recording equipment*

actually


was retweeted on the idol .

I should still record now because it's not really cool to do it at night when my landlord has his sleeping room above mine.

OzzyOzrock wrote: 3i1y5r

YO BUT I PROMISE I'LL TRY NEXT TIME THOUGH I'M SORRY LMAO

boi why are you resurrecting what was burried.

Asked a question without reading the first post properly. Oops.

Generally all official times are UTC but see what Flanster just posted 2h ago here and on twitter.
Also 1st July isn't the last day you have to submit, it's the day you technically can't submit anymore. (starting post states "UNTIL 1st July" so it is not included)

Endaris wrote: 6j5f7

Generally all official times are UTC but see what Flanster just posted 2h ago here and on twitter.
Also 1st July isn't the last day you have to submit, it's the day you technically can't submit anymore. (starting post states "UNTIL 1st July" so it is not included)

https://countingdownto.com/countdown/os ... down-clock
UTC +0

So you do have until 12:00 am on July 2nd to enter, according to the timer... But the front page says UNTIL July 1st...

I'm kidding, of course. I'll try to finish up my entry by tonight. And thank you both! I edited my original post before I saw anyone had replied, which was a bad move on my part. Now this all might seem a bit confusing... My apologies!

Timer is godlike though.
Guess I can still record an instrumental for my performance x)

Timer is indeed OP.

I just added more time since I can close it on Friday mightnight, I really had troubles last year staying 3-4 AM on workdays to close it myself.
More time for entries and more sleep for me, win win, yes?

more judging for me T.T but bring on the voices!

All these last minute entries coming in

I'll go through the last ones on Saturday morning and get everything set up for judging asap!

I'm hyped to get all of my judging moved into the sheet

Kyonko Hizara wrote: 1g2bq

I'm hyped to get all of my judging moved into the sheet

i love you

A question, is my entry okay or do I need to it then by soundcloud?

Ah why not, trying again this year :0

Phor Cillic wrote: 14a61

A question, is my entry okay or do I need to it then by soundcloud?

The link works and the sound plays so it should be fine. I don't think there has been an entry before of someone recording themselves sing.

ztrot wrote: 21x5f

more judging for me T.T but bring on the voices!

Kyonko Hizara wrote: 1g2bq

All these last minute entries coming in

Let the fun begin B)

and now the fear of not making it through to stage 1 begins with all 50 million new entries in the final 2 days of registrations :c

Catgirl wrote: 662g33

and now the fear of not making it through to stage 1 begins with all 50 million new entries in the final 2 days of registrations :c

Only time will tell~

I hope I win

MillhioreF wrote: 6w3d4u

I hope I win

MillhioreF wrote: 6w3d4u

I hope I win

What took you so long.

sorry ozzy we have a new winner

omg i was gonna remake mine since you guys deserve better but i thought this was off of australian time aka was over :V

OzzyOzrock wrote: 3i1y5r

omg i was gonna remake mine since you guys deserve better but i thought this was off of australian time aka was over :V

What's better than perfection?

Stefan's performance is beaten. My world is shattered.

Sent mine in! Now I can worry about now making it through in peace.

Just a question but when do we submit our entries for stage 1?

You can't submit for Stage 1 before the judging of registrations is finished. Based on the amount of entries it could take like whatever. Probably not before 8th I'd guess but it takes as much time as it takes Flan to kick asses of the judges.

If you're on vacation during stage 1 I think you can PM Flan your entry, I saw something about that earlier in this thread. Guaranteed, if you don't go through registration you can't enter the next stage.

Zeptaurus wrote: 1r2w3x

If you're on vacation during stage 1 I think you can PM Flan your entry.

Yup, if you are confident enough that is

Oh god, I submitted >.<
If I make it to the next round I will sing the Aria of the Night from The Magic Flute

My entry is accepted? Glad to hear. I just thought it would be nice to show myself during singing and Nike'd that (just did it). Now I may only have hope I will advance to the next stage. XD

Phor Cillic wrote: 14a61

My entry is accepted? Glad to hear. I just thought it would be nice to show myself during singing and Nike'd that (just did it). Now I may only have hope I will advance to the next stage. XD