I don't have a Tatacon but seeing that this is a thing, assuming it works as well as you described I'd love to try using one!
When will orders be open? :^)
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I will sell these for as long as possible! If I disappear/get abducted by aliens/die, anyone with enough funds can make batches themselves from the files on GitHubhiandbye wrote: 3d2j1u
How long will you sell these? Should I buy one now because it will be my only chance? Cause I won't be able to afford a Tatacon for quite a while.
There will be supply delays early on as I work out what the demand is like, but these should be alleviated by the second or third batch
Still waiting on them to ship. Chinese New Year slowed things down somewhat, combined with the extended delay in sourcing parts.AnimeGod2205 wrote: s3w1y
hey its me again i was just wondering if you got them in again. its been a while since i have talked to you so i just wanted to check up on their status
Dang, they havent even shipped yet? so many delaysmontymintypie wrote: 446c1i
Still waiting on them to ship. Chinese New Year slowed things down somewhat, combined with the extended delay in sourcing parts.AnimeGod2205 wrote: s3w1y
hey its me again i was just wondering if you got them in again. its been a while since i have talked to you so i just wanted to check up on their status
Still waiting for the parcel, but while I wait, I got hard numbers on latency.
Using my scope, I had 1 probe connected to a piezo mic, and another to the LED of the converter. This LED updates at 1KHz, the same rate as the USB update rate.
I then smacked the drum 50 times, and recorded the delay between the moment the piezo started to respond, and when the converter ed a hit. An example measurement:
After 50 hits, here are the results:
Average: 1.802ms
Median: 1.77ms
Std Deviation: 0.44454517
Min: 1.1ms
Max: 2.78ms
Rounding the max value up, I can confidently say that there is an absolute worst case 3ms lag. And average lag of 1.8ms. This is imperceptible. Lagfree = confirmed!
Using my scope, I had 1 probe connected to a piezo mic, and another to the LED of the converter. This LED updates at 1KHz, the same rate as the USB update rate.
I then smacked the drum 50 times, and recorded the delay between the moment the piezo started to respond, and when the converter ed a hit. An example measurement:
After 50 hits, here are the results:
Average: 1.802ms
Median: 1.77ms
Std Deviation: 0.44454517
Min: 1.1ms
Max: 2.78ms
Rounding the max value up, I can confidently say that there is an absolute worst case 3ms lag. And average lag of 1.8ms. This is imperceptible. Lagfree = confirmed!
I've been prototyping a case.
This is an early prototype so the case doesn't fit properly and looks bad, but would there be interest? It would be 3-5 USD delivered, or cheaper if bundled with the converter. The source is also open so if you own a 3D printer you can make it yourself.
Pictures inside the spoilerbox...
This is an early prototype so the case doesn't fit properly and looks bad, but would there be interest? It would be 3-5 USD delivered, or cheaper if bundled with the converter. The source is also open so if you own a 3D printer you can make it yourself.
Pictures inside the spoilerbox...
The converter pretends to be a keyboard - as long as the keys are set to the same ones you use in Taikojiro, it will work fine. I will release the configuration app when I start shipping converters.
If you subscribe to this thread you will get an email when someone posts. I will post as soon as they arrive! I expect them here by Friday - fingers crossed
If you subscribe to this thread you will get an email when someone posts. I will post as soon as they arrive! I expect them here by Friday - fingers crossed
I just recently got a tatacon and when I Bluetooth connected it to my PC, it worked on osu but I had to hit ACTUAL SMASHING strength to get just one hit and I think it's the problem with the wii so I am really looking forward to this. I also ire you on how you have been working on this for a year!!
So when do you think the final product will be ready and ready to ship, I really need this!
So when do you think the final product will be ready and ready to ship, I really need this!
FluffyHuggie wrote: 6r4c2a
I just recently got a tatacon and when I Bluetooth connected it to my PC, it worked on osu but I had to hit ACTUAL SMASHING strength to get just one hit and I think it's the problem with the wii so I am really looking forward to this. I also ire you on how you have been working on this for a year!!
So when do you think the final product will be ready and ready to ship, I really need this!
I know right!? I have heard that putting a towel or cloth over it helps. I don't really understand how, but I tried it and it helps a little so you don't have to use the force that you would use to cut the branch off of a tree with an ax XD.
They're here!
Building...
Complete!
2 important notes
While you're at it, the Chrome web app is now public. You will need it to configure buttons, LEDs, debouncing, and for future firmware updates.
Building...
Complete!
2 important notes
- The cases aren't ready yet. If you purchase now you won't get a case.
I underestimated some costs and the price had to be raised to $25. Shipping is still free!
While you're at it, the Chrome web app is now public. You will need it to configure buttons, LEDs, debouncing, and for future firmware updates.
I have 12 left. If I run out, I will simply order moreFluffyHuggie wrote: 6r4c2a
Ill be waiting for the cases to come out so when will that be, and also how much stock do you have because I surely wouldn't want it to run out and I won't be able to buy it!
Cases.... fortnight? I don't have a 3D printer so there's a lot of shuffling getting other people to print them for me.
Alright then I'll be waiting to order it when you announce the cases thanks!montymintypie wrote: 446c1i
I have 12 left. If I run out, I will simply order moreFluffyHuggie wrote: 6r4c2a
Ill be waiting for the cases to come out so when will that be, and also how much stock do you have because I surely wouldn't want it to run out and I won't be able to buy it!
Cases.... fortnight? I don't have a 3D printer so there's a lot of shuffling getting other people to print them for me.
I also was insterested on your case, but I'm afraid you run out of converters by the time you get them ready...FluffyHuggie wrote: 6r4c2a
I have 12 left. If I run out, I will simply order moremontymintypie wrote: 446c1i
Ill be waiting for the cases to come out so when will that be, and also how much stock do you have because I surely wouldn't want it to run out and I won't be able to buy it!
Cases.... fortnight? I don't have a 3D printer so there's a lot of shuffling getting other people to print them for me.
Would you make your 3D models available for people printing their own cases? In that case, I think I could ask a friend of mine to print it for me
Absolutely! The unfinished cases are in .scad format in the Github repo. When they are finished, I'll also release .stl files which any 3D printer s!afureru wrote: 4r17g
Would you make your 3D models available for people printing their own cases? In that case, I think I could ask a friend of mine to print it for me
Give me a couple of days to clean my desk and sureFluffyHuggie wrote: 6r4c2a
Oh and if you have time can you show us a example like a video or something that shows the usb converter and a tatacon in use so I could see the lag free results and just how hard or soft you need to hit, but you dont have to I'm just curious
I'm about to order more boards, but I wanted to ask people's opinions - currently there's a USB A port on the converter. It's like a USB flash drive or a dongle of sorts.
Would people prefer micro USB, like on their phone? Pros: can get a longer cable out of it. Cons: If you don't have a cable already it's 1 extra thing you need.
Would people prefer micro USB, like on their phone? Pros: can get a longer cable out of it. Cons: If you don't have a cable already it's 1 extra thing you need.
I would want it to be just the USB for computer, more easier just plug it in right away right?montymintypie wrote: 446c1i
I'm about to order more boards, but I wanted to ask people's opinions - currently there's a USB A port on the converter. It's like a USB flash drive or a dongle of sorts.
Would people prefer micro USB, like on their phone? Pros: can get a longer cable out of it. Cons: If you don't have a cable already it's 1 extra thing you need.
if anyone has a spare one that I can borrow, I would be very grateful. I was planning on doing a series of videos.Do you still have mine on hold? It's fine if you don't I can wait until the next batch but I will be able to buy it this weekend(Hopefully).montymintypie wrote: 446c1i
Thanks for everyone's ! The first batch is now sold out.
I expect the second batch by late April/early May. By then I should hopefully have nailed the case design too. People who have purchased this batch will be able to 3D print their own case
Ah! Mine came today! (I hadn't said earlier, but I had scrapped up enough money to buy one! ;3) I can't test it now since i'm actually still remodeling my drum, but I can do it later. I can update then! Thanks so much @montymintypie!! ! (For the little gifts too :33)
EDIT: I had finished fixing my drum, and i've gotta say, this works wonders! I love it so much. There's no delay at all for me. I can now play songs that are not on TnT Wii with a tatacon, and effectively! Thank you again!! :3!
! (For the little gifts too :33)EDIT: I had finished fixing my drum, and i've gotta say, this works wonders! I love it so much. There's no delay at all for me. I can now play songs that are not on TnT Wii with a tatacon, and effectively! Thank you again!! :3!
Hey awesome project monty. I had bought a tatacon and all the wii crap a while back but once i got osu open I found myself drowning in lag ;-;
poor tatacon has been sitting in the closet for months now thanks to that. I wish i had known about your project beforehand. Do you have that next batch(with cases) finished yet? I'd love to have a converter.
poor tatacon has been sitting in the closet for months now thanks to that. I wish i had known about your project beforehand. Do you have that next batch(with cases) finished yet? I'd love to have a converter.
To all those following, thanks again for the patience
If you're thinking of buying one, could you fill this survey on case colour? I'll be able to offer white, black, blue and red and would like to know roughly how much to print of each. If there's big demand for another colour I will buy more filament.
PCBs have shipped and I should receive them within 2 weeks. It may take a bit longer to start shipping since that'll coincide with my exams for this semester. But almost there
If you're thinking of buying one, could you fill this survey on case colour? I'll be able to offer white, black, blue and red and would like to know roughly how much to print of each. If there's big demand for another colour I will buy more filament.
PCBs have shipped and I should receive them within 2 weeks. It may take a bit longer to start shipping since that'll coincide with my exams for this semester. But almost there
First of all, hi to the community. Noob here. Made an just to write in this thread and discovered Osu! on the way
I wanted to congratulate montymintypie for such awesome board, one of the coolest I've seen in my life and this comes from someone with several Cave PCBs at home. I wanted to buy a couple of boards with blue and red boxes although my daughter would prefer pink I'll be checking for updates. Keep up the good work!
I wanted to congratulate montymintypie for such awesome board, one of the coolest I've seen in my life and this comes from someone with several Cave PCBs at home. I wanted to buy a couple of boards with blue and red boxes although my daughter would prefer pink
I'll be checking for updates. Keep up the good work!
Yes, this June 2016! This parcel is taking its time to arrive at my house...
I own both genuine and knockoff, works on both. Even works on the very expensive Hori controllers.
Osu doesn't need to detect the drum as it pretends to be a keyboard. However I do like navigating songs with the drum, expect that to come to osu when it becomes open source.
Yes to cases for this batch - printer is ready!
I own both genuine and knockoff, works on both. Even works on the very expensive Hori controllers.
Osu doesn't need to detect the drum as it pretends to be a keyboard. However I do like navigating songs with the drum, expect that to come to osu when it becomes open source.
Yes to cases for this batch - printer is ready!
Status update:
Cases will be strong and hold the board very well without the need for glue.
I have gone through many prototypes:
The cases for the old and new versions are on Thingiverse now.
Almost ready, but I am fixing some print quality issues. I want to make sure people receive the best quality product.
Cases will be strong and hold the board very well without the need for glue.
I have gone through many prototypes:
The cases for the old and new versions are on Thingiverse now.
Almost ready, but I am fixing some print quality issues. I want to make sure people receive the best quality product.
Thanks again for making these available!montymintypie wrote: 446c1i
Status update:
Cases will be strong and hold the board very well without the need for glue.
I have gone through many prototypes:
The cases for the old and new versions are on Thingiverse now.
Almost ready, but I am fixing some print quality issues. I want to make sure people receive the best quality product.
They should be in stock very soon from what ive seen. Also this is for monty, i had a suggestion for a new color, the official osu! Shade of pink. I think it would be pretty nice to have that as a color option.mizuki-chan wrote: 6y595q
so whats the status for now? when are they going to be available?
Mere days away (for real this time!). I've finally got the quality up to scratch, the solution is to just print everything really slowly. I'm printing ~8 of each colour so I actually have stock to sell when I open orders. It's about 10 hours of printing so including breaks, 2 days absolute tops. Prepare your wallets
Have also ordered the next 50 PCBs. Stock issues should subside
You're making me broke. Purchased 3 new rolls - osu! pink, silver and lime green.AnimeGod2205 wrote: s3w1y
i had a suggestion for a new color, the official osu! Shade of pink. I think it would be pretty nice to have that as a color option.
Have also ordered the next 50 PCBs. Stock issues should subside
Haha, I'm sorry. Thats awesome. Those are really god collors and i think that the osu! Pinkwill sel very well(i'm jellous cause i want a silver but ill just print it myself haha)montymintypie wrote: 446c1i
Mere days away (for real this time!). I've finally got the quality up to scratch, the solution is to just print everything really slowly. I'm printing ~8 of each colour so I actually have stock to sell when I open orders. It's about 10 hours of printing so including breaks, 2 days absolute tops. Prepare your wallets
You're making me broke. Purchased 3 new rolls - osu! pink, silver and lime green.AnimeGod2205 wrote: s3w1y
i had a suggestion for a new color, the official osu! Shade of pink. I think it would be pretty nice to have that as a color option.
Have also ordered the next 50 PCBs. Stock issues should subside
Another new idea since they come in parts , why not offer multicolor ones?
Thank you everyone again for your patience. They are on sale again!
Check the first post for more info, or just click here
Check the first post for more info, or just click here
The rear cover is far too small for me to make it an official option, but if someone wants to mix and match, just leave a note when you purchase.AnimeGod2205 wrote: s3w1y
Another new idea since they come in parts , why not offer multicolor ones?
I totally would go for a transparent one, especially since they used to have a face on the board. But I was impatient and bought a white one as soon as they came out. 
My tatacon just arrived in the mail, and after hours of butthurt trying to pair my Wiimote I got it to work. I note in the product features that it's so sensitive you can bounce your sticks for multihits; trying out the tatacon, though, I noticed it takes a good amount of force whacking it to get a hit. Is the converter more sensitive than the Wiimote, or is it a hardware thing? Because I really don't want to get noise complaints from my neighbors, during the night it sounds as loud as a real drum.
My tatacon just arrived in the mail, and after hours of butthurt trying to pair my Wiimote I got it to work. I note in the product features that it's so sensitive you can bounce your sticks for multihits; trying out the tatacon, though, I noticed it takes a good amount of force whacking it to get a hit. Is the converter more sensitive than the Wiimote, or is it a hardware thing? Because I really don't want to get noise complaints from my neighbors, during the night it sounds as loud as a real drum.
It can be heard throughout a household but not by neighbors. I ordered mine when it first came out which would be nice to get a clear case for.ToaKarn wrote: 2d5u1k
I totally would go for a transparent one, especially since they used to have a face on the board. But I was impatient and bought a white one as soon as they came out.
My tatacon just arrived in the mail, and after hours of butthurt trying to pair my Wiimote I got it to work. I note in the product features that it's so sensitive you can bounce your sticks for multihits; trying out the tatacon, though, I noticed it takes a good amount of force whacking it to get a hit. Is the converter more sensitive than the Wiimote, or is it a hardware thing? Because I really don't want to get noise complaints from my neighbors, during the night it sounds as loud as a real drum.
well my converter came in today, i will say the 0 delay claim is true and it's really fun to use! still trying to get used to how to actually control the drumsticks and hit the correct part of the drum, i find myself often hitting a dead part of the drum when i try to hit kats c:
i think my drum is just trash though because it's having a lot of trouble ing even the most basic hits. i messed around with debouncing settings and stuff, and nothing seemed to make any difference. the drum was new and it's the same one that comes with taiko wii games, but i can't really test the drum on its own without the game.
regardless, after a 2+ hour session playing random maps to test it out, i have to say it's a lot of fun! i'll definitely do some more testing to confirm it's just the drum having problems and not the converter c:
i think my drum is just trash though because it's having a lot of trouble ing even the most basic hits. i messed around with debouncing settings and stuff, and nothing seemed to make any difference. the drum was new and it's the same one that comes with taiko wii games, but i can't really test the drum on its own without the game.
regardless, after a 2+ hour session playing random maps to test it out, i have to say it's a lot of fun! i'll definitely do some more testing to confirm it's just the drum having problems and not the converter c:
ToaKarn wrote: 2d5u1k
trying out the tatacon, though, I noticed it takes a good amount of force whacking it to get a hit.
That's just how the normal tatacon is. Luckily, there are some mods you can do that will make it work better.Catgirl wrote: 662g33
i think my drum is just trash though because it's having a lot of trouble ing even the most basic hits.
Here's the guide I used: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.ph ... tcount=117
This cork plate worked without needing any modifications: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000 ... UTF8&psc=1
For steps 9-10, I couldn't get a 5 mm hole puncher, so I stuffed the holes with tissue and put tape over the holes. I also stuffed some tissues into the empty area shown in step 3 to lessen the impact from hits.
You might have to do some more modifications after testing (some of the rubber would make the kat parts too sensitive on mine, so I had to cut those pieces of rubber off), but if you're willing to do that, the results are very noticeable.
On another note, I haven't gotten my converter yet, but I can't wait to use it. I might make a video on it if I can properly record it and show the improvement in delay.
yeah i've had people suggest i mod it, i'll definitely take a look c:GMMAwesome wrote: 1pl4w
ToaKarn wrote: 2d5u1k
trying out the tatacon, though, I noticed it takes a good amount of force whacking it to get a hit.That's just how the normal tatacon is. Luckily, there are some mods you can do that will make it work better.Catgirl wrote: 662g33
i think my drum is just trash though because it's having a lot of trouble ing even the most basic hits.
Here's the guide I used: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.ph ... tcount=117
This cork plate worked without needing any modifications: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000 ... UTF8&psc=1
For steps 9-10, I couldn't get a 5 mm hole puncher, so I stuffed the holes with tissue and put tape over the holes. I also stuffed some tissues into the empty area shown in step 3 to lessen the impact from hits.
You might have to do some more modifications after testing (some of the rubber would make the kat parts too sensitive on mine, so I had to cut those pieces of rubber off), but if you're willing to do that, the results are very noticeable.
On another note, I haven't gotten my converter yet, but I can't wait to use it. I might make a video on it if I can properly record it and show the improvement in delay.
i already have a recording from today if you want to see the no delay https://twitch.tv/deconstream/v/80370278
You mean I have to spend even more money on this? ;_; I'll take a look into this when I have an actual income and soundproofing on my walls, thanks!GMMAwesome wrote: 1pl4w
ToaKarn wrote: 2d5u1k
trying out the tatacon, though, I noticed it takes a good amount of force whacking it to get a hit.That's just how the normal tatacon is. Luckily, there are some mods you can do that will make it work better.Catgirl wrote: 662g33
i think my drum is just trash though because it's having a lot of trouble ing even the most basic hits.
Here's the guide I used: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.ph ... tcount=117
This cork plate worked without needing any modifications: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000 ... UTF8&psc=1
For steps 9-10, I couldn't get a 5 mm hole puncher, so I stuffed the holes with tissue and put tape over the holes. I also stuffed some tissues into the empty area shown in step 3 to lessen the impact from hits.
You might have to do some more modifications after testing (some of the rubber would make the kat parts too sensitive on mine, so I had to cut those pieces of rubber off), but if you're willing to do that, the results are very noticeable.
On another note, I haven't gotten my converter yet, but I can't wait to use it. I might make a video on it if I can properly record it and show the improvement in delay.
That actually helps quite a bit. I'll have to try out the style you were holding the sticks with, I was trying it the way people always do it in the arcade TnT. Maybe I can get mine as responsive as yours.Catgirl wrote: 662g33
yeah i've had people suggest i mod it, i'll definitely take a look c:
i already have a recording from today if you want to see the no delay https://twitch.tv/deconstream/v/80370278
i wouldn't recommend my style, i had no idea what i was doing cause i never played arcade before. i just tried a bunch of different ways and this is what felt rightToaKarn wrote: 2d5u1k
That actually helps quite a bit. I'll have to try out the style you were holding the sticks with, I was trying it the way people always do it in the arcade TnT. Maybe I can get mine as responsive as yours.Catgirl wrote: 662g33
yeah i've had people suggest i mod it, i'll definitely take a look c:
i already have a recording from today if you want to see the no delay https://twitch.tv/deconstream/v/80370278
I have no idea how you're hitting those kats, I'm just assuming that you're shifting your finger over and the camera isn't fast enough.Catgirl wrote: 662g33
update: i modded my drum and here's an update of how responsive the dons are now. still working on the kats, i'll hopefully get them just as perfect really soon!
Now it's time to figure out how spinners and bouncing works, eh?I'm assuming you're using the guide from above; can I ask how much the mod cost you and where you bought everything from?