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They don't appear often in the lower difficulty maps, however inversions and LN walls are key components in higher difficulty o2jam style or ln style maps.timi96 wrote: f634h
some inverted notes beatmaps? (lift or LN walls) i didn't find any
Here are some examples:
https://osu-ppy-sh.jeuxcrack.net/b/543414 (Lv.34)
You can invert any map using coming soon™.timi96 wrote: f634h
some inverted notes beatmaps? (lift or LN walls) i didn't find any
(I am by no means an expert so if I say something completely dumb or wrong please don't hold it against me. Also my star estimates are personal estimates from experience)
Un0fficial, the whole Beginner-Novice-Advanced-ET classification isn't 4 concrete stages, it's an entire spectrum. Beginners can play anywhere from 1 to low 3 stars, Novices can extend from 3 to high 4 or even 5 stars, Advanced is 4-6 stars and ET is anything else. I looked at your profile (sorry) and my guess is you're bridging Beginner/Novice. You're playing 1-2 star beatmaps, but highly excelling at them as far as accuracy goes.
You may feel that you're switching between them due to a bad performance, which happens to most of us. Also, keep in mind different maps can have completely different patterns, some you're well acquainted with and some you've never seen before. It's important to pracitce those you haven't seen before, it helps you become a much better player, much quicker.
If you're looking to cement your status as a Novice, begin to practice some harder maps, going from 2-2.5 stars. They'll be harder and you're likely to get B's and C's when you first play them, perhaps even fail, but continue playing them and you'll see improvement. Keep track of the star count you excell at, at, and fail at, as star counts are a very solid guideline to go off of.
Sorry for writing a lot, probably a bit more than you were looking for. , keep a positive attitude, and PRACTICE. Good luck!
Un0fficial, the whole Beginner-Novice-Advanced-ET classification isn't 4 concrete stages, it's an entire spectrum. Beginners can play anywhere from 1 to low 3 stars, Novices can extend from 3 to high 4 or even 5 stars, Advanced is 4-6 stars and ET is anything else. I looked at your profile (sorry) and my guess is you're bridging Beginner/Novice. You're playing 1-2 star beatmaps, but highly excelling at them as far as accuracy goes.
You may feel that you're switching between them due to a bad performance, which happens to most of us. Also, keep in mind different maps can have completely different patterns, some you're well acquainted with and some you've never seen before. It's important to pracitce those you haven't seen before, it helps you become a much better player, much quicker.
If you're looking to cement your status as a Novice, begin to practice some harder maps, going from 2-2.5 stars. They'll be harder and you're likely to get B's and C's when you first play them, perhaps even fail, but continue playing them and you'll see improvement. Keep track of the star count you excell at, at, and fail at, as star counts are a very solid guideline to go off of.
Sorry for writing a lot, probably a bit more than you were looking for. , keep a positive attitude, and PRACTICE. Good luck!
As a new player myself this guide is very helpful. Given that i havn't read 17 pages of comments i thought i'd share my experience today.
Today i was given the advice that if i wanted to improve my game faster. I should stop playing autoconverts.
When i stopped playing autoconverts and only played !Mania maps for the fews hours i played today i can truely say that the advice was worth pure gold.
Personally i find the !Mania maps way more fun aswell as the patterns aren't boring compared to a lot of the autoconverts.
I'm not saying we should completely lay off the autoconverts. Maybe just have a more casual approach to the autoconverts and a more serious approach to the !Mania maps.
Please do correct me if i'm wrong! (I'm new afterall)
Cheers!
Today i was given the advice that if i wanted to improve my game faster. I should stop playing autoconverts.
When i stopped playing autoconverts and only played !Mania maps for the fews hours i played today i can truely say that the advice was worth pure gold.
Personally i find the !Mania maps way more fun aswell as the patterns aren't boring compared to a lot of the autoconverts.
I'm not saying we should completely lay off the autoconverts. Maybe just have a more casual approach to the autoconverts and a more serious approach to the !Mania maps.
Please do correct me if i'm wrong! (I'm new afterall)
Cheers!
So, i have appeared to hit a wall. I can some very high two star maps, but when ever it has those fast patterns that have two notes at once, i lode it. Like when it goes like, middle left, two keys on the left, outside right, both outside keys. That completely throws me off. Is this completely normal, and is there a way to practice it effectively?
So, i have appeared to hit a wall. I can some very high two star maps, but when ever it has those fast patterns that have two notes at once, i lode it. Like when it goes like, middle left, two keys on the left, outside right, both outside keys. That completely throws me off. Is this completely normal, and is there a way to practice it effectively? Also, how do i get the track in the middle of the screen? What file in the .ini do i change?
My finger indepence doesn't allow me to. (sorry for saying it out of the blue)Tristan97 wrote: 115ri
You'll have to play a lot more than 19 autoconverts to be be successful at IIDX maps.TrinitehFoarse wrote: 3wq4e
My problem is, HOW DO I GET THE DARN IIDX MAPS?!?!?! THEY'RE TOO HARD!
Play mania specific beatmaps, play easier 7 key difficulties, play lots of them and work your way up.
Yooh - Legend has some okay patterns on the easiest diff.Redon wrote: 555l49
Un0fficial wrote: 5w1w3q
So, i have appeared to hit a wall. I can some very high two star maps, but when ever it has those fast patterns that have two notes at once, i lode it. Like when it goes like, middle left, two keys on the left, outside right, both outside keys. That completely throws me off. Is this completely normal, and is there a way to practice it effectively?
play more
play different maps that have slower/simpler versions of the patterns you're struggling with
also play 7K
Also, how do i get the track in the middle of the screen? What file in the .ini do i change?In the skin.ini file, under [Mania], the value for ColumnStart tells the game how big the gap between the left edge of the window and the first column should be.
https://osu-ppy-sh.jeuxcrack.net/wiki/Skin.ini
Can you give me a easy 7K map?Tristan97 wrote: 115ri
You'll have to play a lot more than 19 autoconverts to be be successful at IIDX maps.TrinitehFoarse wrote: 3wq4e
My problem is, HOW DO I GET THE DARN IIDX MAPS?!?!?! THEY'RE TOO HARD!
Play mania specific beatmaps, play easier 7 key difficulties, play lots of them and work your way up.
How to streams?
I'm really bad at streams and my friend gave me the https://osu-ppy-sh.jeuxcrack.net/s/147745 Candy Galy map.
The 4k HD is really brutal with almost unreadable 1/4 notes, but it's only 3.00 stars and only HD.
My friend told me to play a lot of those, but I cant even the HD.
I can play those chord thingies at about star rating 3.5-3.7, but I get destroyed by the 1/4 short notes.
What should I do to improve streams~~
EDIT: I play both 4k and 7k
I'm really bad at streams and my friend gave me the https://osu-ppy-sh.jeuxcrack.net/s/147745 Candy Galy map.
The 4k HD is really brutal with almost unreadable 1/4 notes, but it's only 3.00 stars and only HD.
My friend told me to play a lot of those, but I cant even the HD.
I can play those chord thingies at about star rating 3.5-3.7, but I get destroyed by the 1/4 short notes.
What should I do to improve streams~~
EDIT: I play both 4k and 7k
Play more. If you get destroyed by streams from a certain star rating, play streams with slightly lower star ratings till you are able to hit most of them.dennischan wrote: 6i6h11
How to streams?
I can play those chord thingies at about star rating 3.5-3.7, but I get destroyed by the 1/4 short notes.
What should I do to improve streams~~
EDIT: I play both 4k and 7k
Fortunape
It's a sarcastic remark by him because osu mania doesn't offer a lot of high difficulty charts. He's considering osu!mania to be a 'baby's rhythm game', so to say. The 'real rhythm games' that he's referring to would be vsrgs like o2jam and lr2.Fortunape wrote: 6j9e
''Time to move on to the real rhythm games cause you're a big boy now
LR2 is still active, the BOFU is happening right now, It's more than thousands new songs. But yeah, there isn't any other game except some in dev. http://manbow.nothing.sh/event/event.cgi?action=List_def&event=104
http://vsrg.club has a server
Not a 4k player, but I improved to the next difficulty via analyzing what is my most common problem in harder maps/maps in the difficulty I play atm. and try to get better at what gives me a hard time.
For example: layered LN's are a huge problem for me, so I played only maps with these patterns in them to get better at them.
Another tip would be: play harder maps on halftime and try to get high acc. and try to learn new or hard patterns.
If you play them map on normal speed later you'll have an easier time to play these patterns.
Last tip: play old maps and try to get higher acc. and combo.
I saw alot of your scores are A's. Try to get S ranks and maybe 97%acc plus.
It seems you're not ready to progress in harder difficulty when your baseskill on an easier difficulty is lacking.
Hope that helps somewhat.
Cheers
For example: layered LN's are a huge problem for me, so I played only maps with these patterns in them to get better at them.
Another tip would be: play harder maps on halftime and try to get high acc. and try to learn new or hard patterns.
If you play them map on normal speed later you'll have an easier time to play these patterns.
Last tip: play old maps and try to get higher acc. and combo.
I saw alot of your scores are A's. Try to get S ranks and maybe 97%acc plus.
It seems you're not ready to progress in harder difficulty when your baseskill on an easier difficulty is lacking.
Hope that helps somewhat.
Cheers
i see, well i do rushing too much to play harder song so i didn't really pay much attention on my accuracy.I will try to improve it first while i play harder maps on halftime.Thx btwARCskieZ wrote: 3h354o
Not a 4k player, but I improved to the next difficulty via analyzing what is my most common problem in harder maps/maps in the difficulty I play atm. and try to get better at what gives me a hard time.
For example: layered LN's are a huge problem for me, so I played only maps with these patterns in them to get better at them.
Another tip would be: play harder maps on halftime and try to get high acc. and try to learn new or hard patterns.
If you play them map on normal speed later you'll have an easier time to play these patterns.
Last tip: play old maps and try to get higher acc. and combo.
I saw alot of your scores are A's. Try to get S ranks and maybe 97%acc plus.
It seems you're not ready to progress in harder difficulty when your baseskill on an easier difficulty is lacking.
Hope that helps somewhat.
Cheers
It's entirely up to you. In 5k that kind of layout doesn't have much disadvantage over a spacebar based layout. However, if you plan on learning 7k later, it might be a good idea to stick with the spacebar. It's certainly possible to be good at 7k using something like sdfghjk, but that layout requires a pinkie on one of your hands, and pinkies are much weaker than your other fingers, which puts you at a disadvantage.
In any case, it's totally up to you. There's no 'right' way to play mania.
In any case, it's totally up to you. There's no 'right' way to play mania.
Begoul wrote: 1a515o
Hello , as it is recommended I try to keep my eyes on the midle of the screen . But they go down all the time especially when there are LN , stairs or a hight density for me . How could I train that ?
Thanks
I personally found that playing with hidden helped me stop doing that. But while I could keep my eyes in place with hidden, the habit of looking lower would still come back a bit when playing without it.
Begoul : Basically this. It is still too soon to draw any conclusions on your current playstyle since you have been playing for a few days at most. The way you read notes (and how you position yourself to play, hands and body, and a lot more) is most likely to improve as you keep playing. You can perhaps fiddle with the scrolling speed, and if you haven't done it yet, to use "Fixed BPM" scrolling speed and not the BPM-scaling one in the options (Just type "BPM" in the Options, you'll get what you are looking for.)Todestrieb wrote: 1d583u
You should just keep playing, with time you will do this a lot less. It's normal when you start.
I've been at osu!mania for a while and I've hit a major wall due to the speed and I just cannot read fast enough, I usually do 1- 2.3 stars at 21 scroll speed but I can't do any more. One map that shows the gap is "time to air" on KK's 4K hyper difficulty. It's such a jump from previous speeds so I can't read it and I have tried every speed from 9 (too close together to read) up to 19 (much too fast for the difficulty).
The fastest I can go is Water Horizon on 4k basic. Any tips for improving on speed and anything that can bridge this huge gap in speed?
The fastest I can go is Water Horizon on 4k basic. Any tips for improving on speed and anything that can bridge this huge gap in speed?
I am not exactly sure what you are asking for.
Do you mean that the song is simply too fast for you and the gap between notes is too narrow that even at a speed you're comfy with you cannot hit them? If so you should just play more and build up speed.
Or do you mean that you can't seem to find the right speed for you on this specific map? You're probably not using fixed scrolling speed. Go into the options, search for "bpm" and (un)tick the only setting that appears.
Do you mean that the song is simply too fast for you and the gap between notes is too narrow that even at a speed you're comfy with you cannot hit them? If so you should just play more and build up speed.
Or do you mean that you can't seem to find the right speed for you on this specific map? You're probably not using fixed scrolling speed. Go into the options, search for "bpm" and (un)tick the only setting that appears.
I agree that slower scroll speeds help with getting used to the patterns at a low level, but scroll speed 10 sounds awfully slow to me. Maybe 15? (considering that this is a fixed scale of course)Aqo wrote: 382f42
play slower scroll speed, seriously. you won't learn new patterns from high scroll speed and 21/17 is waaaay too fast for the level of charts you're playing.
try playing 7k with 10 scroll speed for a while. you'll see a lot of improvement after a week of playing.
Yes, you have to get warmed up properly and that's not possible every day if you for example don't sleep well the night before or have bad eating habits, or stress from work etc.M0STW4NT3D wrote: 465d
ok my question is:
is that normal if you play a map in one day you get S and the next day you get B (it happens to me most)?? ._.
Try to figure out EXACTLY what is causing the problem and find a solution. For example, sometimes all you need to do is increase your scroll rate and patterns that were hard to read become easier. But sometimes that's not the solution, because the problem was not that the notes were just too close together. This solution is much harder to do, and it's hard to find anyone who can help you figure it out, but it's BY FAR the most effective way to improve.
While you're trying to figure out the exact problem, you can also try things like:
Practice maps that are a little bit too hard for you.
Try using a slower scroll rate (on songs that are not too hard) to try to get better at reading more dense patterns.
etc.
There is no trick that can suddenly make you much better at rhythm games. The most effective way to improve is just to keep playing.
While you're trying to figure out the exact problem, you can also try things like:
Practice maps that are a little bit too hard for you.
Try using a slower scroll rate (on songs that are not too hard) to try to get better at reading more dense patterns.
etc.
There is no trick that can suddenly make you much better at rhythm games. The most effective way to improve is just to keep playing.
Play songs that have longnotes that end at the same time with another note and practice lifting your finger right as you tap down another on the same hand.Samuel97 wrote: 5wy6f
I really need help with Sliders. Started playing for 3 days now and I havent got a single 300 (max) or reg 300 slider. I thought maybe I gotta press a other button and the same time or something but nope. Im not sure if increasing the speed would do it (possibly).
Tips?
Garecy
This guide is so true i'm actually a 4K player I want to practice other keys but its getting hard... I so much improve in 4k but suck in other keys... I dont know if I follow this guide I will be good, bcoz I already started playing without reading this for almost a year now. But I think this guide will be good for people who starting mania but for someone who starts playing already it will be hard 
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How do you guys deal with changes to much slower scroll speeds?
I can't understand shit so I always end up smashing everything in hope of hitting the keys. :C
It's specially awful when the speed changes, but the density doesn't.
Also, if I play songs of my skill level with, say, 19 scrolling speed instead of 24, my accuracy drops from 95% to 80%. It's kinda frustrating.
I can't understand shit so I always end up smashing everything in hope of hitting the keys. :C
It's specially awful when the speed changes, but the density doesn't.
Also, if I play songs of my skill level with, say, 19 scrolling speed instead of 24, my accuracy drops from 95% to 80%. It's kinda frustrating.
Handling slowdowns is a difficult skill to learn. I know in o2jam players would often practice at slow speeds until they were able to play well at both low and high speeds. Since I play with flashlight, slowdowns are one of the few things that can completely ruin a map for me (in of playability). For example, I can't ExPew's Wintersun or Entozer's Oni Kanojo because of the slowdowns. I try not to let it bother me much. I sometimes play maps with slowdowns on nofail just so I can enjoy the map though.gintoki147 wrote: 71445l
How do you guys deal with changes to much slower scroll speeds?
I can't understand shit so I always end up smashing everything in hope of hitting the keys. :C
It's specially awful when the speed changes, but the density doesn't.
Also, if I play songs of my skill level with, say, 19 scrolling speed instead of 24, my accuracy drops from 95% to 80%. It's kinda frustrating.
Nearly two weeks ago I made this comment and wow, in just two weeks I improved a lot. I'm hitting patterns I never thought I could hit. It's so satisfying. There are days when you just can't seem to hit anything, and THATS OKAY! Don't force yourself because better days will come. The most improtant thing is to keep playing and get used to the notes, even if no immediate improvements show! Have fun!mysweetpiano wrote: 3a513q
Thanks. I my peak was 2.00 star maps when I first started, and I could only get a B on those max. Only been a few days and I'm at 3.00 stars B-ranks. Slowly but surely, I will get better. Gotta keep a positive mindset.
mysweetpiano wrote: 3a513q
Nearly two weeks ago I made this comment and wow, in just two weeks I improved a lot. I'm hitting patterns I never thought I could hit. It's so satisfying. There are days when you just can't seem to hit anything, and THATS OKAY! Don't force yourself because better days will come. The most improtant thing is to keep playing and get used to the notes, even if no immediate improvements show! Have fun!mysweetpiano wrote: 3a513q
Thanks. I my peak was 2.00 star maps when I first started, and I could only get a B on those max. Only been a few days and I'm at 3.00 stars B-ranks. Slowly but surely, I will get better. Gotta keep a positive mindset.
Yeah you just need to play everyday
That's great! And that's a great way to look at things too. It's ok to recognize when you're having a bad day, but don't let it bother you. Even playing on bad days helps you improve.mysweetpiano wrote: 3a513q
Nearly two weeks ago I made this comment and wow, in just two weeks I improved a lot. I'm hitting patterns I never thought I could hit. It's so satisfying. There are days when you just can't seem to hit anything, and THATS OKAY! Don't force yourself because better days will come. The most improtant thing is to keep playing and get used to the notes, even if no immediate improvements show! Have fun!mysweetpiano wrote: 3a513q
Thanks. I my peak was 2.00 star maps when I first started, and I could only get a B on those max. Only been a few days and I'm at 3.00 stars B-ranks. Slowly but surely, I will get better. Gotta keep a positive mindset.
Ahh sometimes I just randomly find beatmap and I even don't know its speed xDBobbias wrote: 7q4g
Your skills won't improve at the same speed, so it's common to rub into problems where your speed is holding you back. When that happens, you should try to find maps that are just a little bit too fast to play properly and practice on those.
so you need to play the same map over and over again right??Bobbias wrote: 7q4g
Well when you can identify what is holding you back, the next step is to find maps that you can use to practice the skill you have trouble with. It's fine to play random maps, but it won't help you improve as fast as practicing on maps specifically to improve that skill will.
Okay. I already repeat some beatmap and at the same time it's inspire me to get better at osu!mania, like beatmap Imprinting 4kBobbias wrote: 7q4g
Well when you can identify what is holding you back, the next step is to find maps that you can use to practice the skill you have trouble with. It's fine to play random maps, but it won't help you improve as fast as practicing on maps specifically to improve that skill will.
No, you shouldn't replay the same map over and over. Playing it a few times is ok, but if you keep playing a map over and over, you will improve your scores on ONLY that map. Even though it looks like you're getting better, you won't see nearly as much improvement on other maps.
The idea is to find as many different maps that all have the kind of patterns you need to practice.
The idea is to find as many different maps that all have the kind of patterns you need to practice.
So you mean repeating same beatmap over and over isn't helping much?Bobbias wrote: 7q4g
No, you shouldn't replay the same map over and over. Playing it a few times is ok, but if you keep playing a map over and over, you will improve your scores on ONLY that map. Even though it looks like you're getting better, you won't see nearly as much improvement on other maps.
The idea is to find as many different maps that all have the kind of patterns you need to practice.
Repeating a beatmap causes you to memorize the patterns in that beatmap. When you memorize the patterns, you are no longer learning how to read patterns better when you play that map. You can still get some improvement from playing it, but the improvement will not be as fast as if you didn't replay the same song a lot.
Personally, One of my areas of strength is sightreading beatmaps. When I play a beatmap, chances are I won't play the same one again for a few weeks at least, sometimes I don't replay it for a few months. There are maps I play more often than that, but even then I usually play my favorite maps less than once a week on average.
Personally, One of my areas of strength is sightreading beatmaps. When I play a beatmap, chances are I won't play the same one again for a few weeks at least, sometimes I don't replay it for a few months. There are maps I play more often than that, but even then I usually play my favorite maps less than once a week on average.
No. Slowdowns are not that common at higher skill levels, but they are still more common than they are at low skill levels. I personally can't play maps with slowdowns at all, because I play with flashlight and have always been really bad at them even before I started using that mod. It does mean there are a few maps I can't play without nofail, but it doesn't bother me too much. If I really enjoy a map, I will sometimes make an edited copy with the slowdown removed.
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