I completely relate with the amount of effort put into this but I have to make something apparent: The tournament looks massively rigged in Portallifes favour, as much as i love you portal, it seems all the pros are bunched together and you have a free to the final.

Doomy, could this be, jesse and raharu all face each other within 3 games, I happen to face mudkipz first game and it seems a bunch of low ranks are facing each other all at the start, I urge you to rethink the seeding so the pros have a chance to reach the final and really test their skill then the hard maps come out, because right now alot of us are facing each other within the top 10 when the maps are super easy and it will only be an accuracy war.

Here is my compelling evidence: Portal:

Pro vs Pro 2nd game, no other top 10 deals with this



below is poor just miku who has to face doomy again first round as with the last tourney, give him a break?



seems like 5 of the top 10 are facing each other within the first 3 games here, you NEED to space the seeds out more, this placing needs re thinking, random number generator just wont work.



I am completely fine with a challenge but il reiterate on the accuracy war point, the whole point of this tournament is to have pros face each other on the hardest maps, not easy insanes like crazy hot nomod where 1x100 = lose.

IT was a randomly generated bracket. I did not manipulate this bracket in any way.
I am a competitive player also, I am strongly against this sort of behaviour or cheating.
The fact you tried to accuse me of this is quite disgusting.
You're also quite subtly insulting everyone in that upper bracket.
Don't go spreading these lies please. If you really believe this, you are free to drop out this tournament and give your a opponent a win.

Sorry but

Can we just stop arguing about shit and play


Portal got shit for it being unfair on the first torny,
So he randomises it for everyone (Cus people told him too) and gets more shit

I mean come on.

EDIT: RNG is random. I didn't complain when I was against a top tier player 1st round last torny due to Dodef taking leave (would have been seed 16 on 17 i beleive). I just took it on the chin and tried. Its not like this is MLG 360NOSCOPZ battle where you have to get first or you get fired from faze :^)

We can still work out the kinks in the next torny. I might just put everyone name in a hat and pull it out.

EDIT2: Also I would have ed this torny but 30fps laptop plays is too good 4 u. Sorry I couldn't be a livestreamer for this event like me and Portal planned. Maybe next time.

Good luck to everyone playing, this will be a fun weekend

Raiku wrote: 536q5o

I completely relate with the amount of effort put into this but I have to make something apparent: The tournament looks massively rigged in Portallifes favour, as much as i love you portal, it seems all the pros are bunched together and you have a free to the final.

Doomy, could this be, jesse and raharu all face each other within 3 games, I happen to face mudkipz first game and it seems a bunch of low ranks are facing each other all at the start, I urge you to rethink the seeding so the pros have a chance to reach the final and really test their skill then the hard maps come out, because right now alot of us are facing each other within the top 10 when the maps are super easy and it will only be an accuracy war.

Here is my compelling evidence: Portal:

Pro vs Pro 2nd game, no other top 10 deals with this



below is poor just miku who has to face doomy again first round as with the last tourney, give him a break?



seems like 5 of the top 10 are facing each other within the first 3 games here, you NEED to space the seeds out more, this placing needs re thinking, random number generator just wont work.



I am completely fine with a challenge but il reiterate on the accuracy war point, the whole point of this tournament is to have pros face each other on the hardest maps, not easy insanes like crazy hot nomod where 1x100 = lose.

Your Portal theory is flawed as his second game is vs. the winner of group H, he will likely play Charleyzard 2nd round, as most UK players know that is a very challenging opponent to face second round for any player, you cut out a key part of the bracket.

Raiku wrote: 536q5o

I completely relate with the amount of effort put into this but I have to make something apparent: The tournament looks massively rigged in Portallifes favour, as much as i love you portal, it seems all the pros are bunched together and you have a free to the final.

I'm sorry but I had to and comment on this.
It definitely was randomly generated and I saw so myself. If you are able to propose a better seeding system where every single matchup is well thought then feel free to, but I think for now this will be sufficient. Accusing PortalLife of 'rigging' the tourney like that is pretty humorous - as much as I respect you, Raiku, proof post like that really can't be taken seriously.

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Starry- wrote: d5v5v

Starry- wrote: d5v5v

Starry- wrote: d5v5v

Starry- wrote: d5v5v

Starry- wrote: d5v5v

Starry- wrote: d5v5v

RIP Starry- :'(

Portal is weak, just saying.

Match timetable/Map pool is out!

There is one match missing because im not sure what time it'll be. Ill the players about that.

Only wanted to play round 1 anyway q.q

Dont worry Jesse will oversleep and youll get a free win

obviously this idea is a bit late and I did propose this idea for the first tourney but to make things fair since we have high ranked players going against.. very low ranked players, we should make a winners bracket and a losers bracket.. just to give people a second chance since.. (no offence) quite a lot of the players don't stand a chance.. just feels like.. what's the point of some people entering the tourney otherwise right?
especially since its single elimination.

Navi wrote: 283469

obviously this idea is a bit late and I did propose this idea for the first tourney but to make things fair since we have high ranked players going against.. very low ranked players, we should make a winners bracket and a losers bracket.. just to give people a second chance since.. (no offence) quite a lot of the players don't stand a chance.. just feels like.. what's the point of some people entering the tourney otherwise right?
especially since its single elimination.

Like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-eli ... tournament

You don't understand how much insane effort and insanity it takes to organize something like that Navi. It'd make the tournament around double the length and with so many matches its more probable to go wrong.

I am not a competitor, nor would I qualify for this Tournament. However, I feel that something should be said regarding the following Rule.

PortalLife wrote: 404e4b

This tournament is a single elimination 1v1 tournament. Lose once, you are out. Brackets will be determined by seeding which is based on your PP.

If this is indeed the case, then why were the participants put through a random number generator, as said in the following quote?

PortalLife wrote: 404e4b

IT was a randomly generated bracket. I did not manipulate this bracket in any way.

By not following the rule that you posted, you did in fact manipulate the bracket. Whether it was or was not in your favor, I don't know. And as for this:

Mahiro Yasaka wrote: 2a4n10

Portal got shit for it being unfair on the first torny,
So he randomises it for everyone (Cus people told him too) and gets more shit.

Nowhere in this thread was it said by ANYONE to randomize the seeding. If it was to be randomized, then an appropriate line in the rules post should have been made. If it was posted elsewhere, then please direct me to where it was written, and I will retract this statement. And finally, this:

Starry- wrote: d5v5v

It definitely was randomly generated and I saw so myself. If you are able to propose a better seeding system where every single matchup is well thought then feel free to, but I think for now this will be sufficient. Accusing PortalLife of 'rigging' the tourney like that is pretty humorous - as much as I respect you, Raiku, proof post like that really can't be taken seriously.

Good for you, you witnessed the tournament organizer breaking the second tournament rule that was made. As for a suggestion, how about following the rule that was posted, and seed the participants according to the pp score?

It was initially done by seeding, but the outcome was so bad it was changed to randomization. Please don't make wild statements without full knowledge please.

This my tournament and I made these rules. I reserve the right to change them at any time.

Wouldn't it have been best to notify the participants of this change to the rules then, that way such "wild statements" would not have been made? A simple update to the rules post would have been sufficient.

me3lingual wrote: 2844g

Good for you, you witnessed the tournament organizer breaking the second tournament rule that was made. As for a suggestion, how about following the rule that was posted, and seed the participants according to the pp score?

I also witnessed the atrocity that became following the seeding of pp rank. It was awful, and the finals simply consisted of Rank #1 vs Rank #33 of the seeding theoretically. Furthermore, my post was aimed at Raiku's statement of PortalLife 'rigging' the tourney. Not you.

I did notify people, however i overlooked the "rules" part of the post cause I was so fucking busy with the other parts of the tournament that I didn't check over that. I don't really see what you're trying to do here other than be obnoxious.

The only thing I am trying to do is help make it clear the reasons why a RNG was used. After all, one could simply assume that it was manipulated in your favor under the guise of using a RNG. Without proper clarification in the rules section, you sending messages to those involved could be seen as a ploy to do something to that effect. Now, I am not saying you did that, nor would I assume that you did. I am on your side in this. I made a bracket of the participants myself before even making my first post, and I also saw the "atrocity" of that final match. I am just trying to help you clarify the reasoning behind the seedings. I apologize if this is seen as obnoxious to you, that was not my intention.

After all, without clearly defined rules, people are prone to think things are rigged in favor of one person or group.

What do I have to gain from rigging a unofficial tournament that is largely for fun?

Not going to comment on these match rigging accusations and such because I know nothing about it, but what Raiku said about the accuracy war was pretty valid. A lot of the top players are going to play against each other early on in the tourney so I suggest making the maps difficult starting from the 2nd round, yes it's unfair to the lower seeded players who got through to the 2nd round but it'll avoid accuracy wars between top players.

Raiku wrote: 536q5o

below is poor just miku who has to face doomy again first round as with the last tourney, give him a break?

Well I don't see how that is possible since I am against doomsday.

May I also add that even though in the last tournament I was put up against charleyzard and then had vidya and on both occasions would have had no chance at even gaining a point, I took the opportunity to evaluate my weaknesses and for once, actually work on them. If I was put up against someone at my skill level then I probably would have just practiced the maps a bit and not really bother trying to improve upon my weaknesses.

When I found out I was against doomsday, I didn't whine and complain or rush to portal's house and hold him at gun point until he puts me up against someone easy to beat. If anything I am glad I get to play doomsday because I can get a royal arse whooping rather than a regular arse whooping. I can also once again take this time to try strengthen my weaknesses rather than just moan and give up all hope.

Even though I have absolutely no chance (again), I at least have an opportunity to evaluate how I perform in a tournament match against tough opposition so I can see how I will fair in a tournament such as the CTB world cup (If we even have a team).

If portal really did rig this tournament, then he didn't do a great job at it in my eyes, he may have a few easy matches but he will still probably have to face charleyzard (hopefully he is awake this time) and if portal gets to the semis he will probably have to face mudkipz, navi or raiku.

Simply put, I am in this for the fun of it, getting higher through the tournament doesn't exactly mean you are better than everyone else. Would you believe that I am better than doomsday if I somehow get a win? If you entered in this tournament then you should have really expected to face anyone of any skill level and should not expect an easy match.

I just hope everyone gives it their best shot regardless of who they play.

PortalLife wrote: 404e4b

Dont worry Jesse will oversleep and youll get a free win

He'd have to be a super pro sleeper to sleep past 8PM!

I'll have to face him round 3 if I win mine ;_;

Next tournament (Summer, June ish) I'll do a name out the hat drawings and let it be streamed to determine who faces who.

PortalLife wrote: 404e4b

You don't understand how much insane effort and insanity it takes to organize something like that Navi. It'd make the tournament around double the length and with so many matches its more probable to go wrong.

well that's a tournament for ya, however I don't think you should carry the whole burden by yourself, I think you should note that everyone who has posted in this thread is trying to help you, E.G me3lingual has some great constructive criticism, perhaps by taking in everything hes saying and even PMing him, or anyone, people can help you run this tournament.
however its "your tournament" so if you want the stress be my guest <3

Just a comment ing through.

Anyway, I know for a fact the PP seeding was not the best and the RNG is much better. >.>

destructor966 wrote: 1n205e

Simply put, I am in this for the fun of it, getting higher through the tournament doesn't exactly mean you are better than everyone else. Would you believe that I am better than doomsday if I somehow get a win? If you entered in this tournament then you should have really expected to face anyone of any skill level and should not expect an easy match.

I just hope everyone gives it their best shot regardless of who they play.

When I first signed up, I was matched against you and I was like "Oh god, I'm going to lose." but when it changed to the RNG bracket, I ed that I had ed this to have fun instead of feel competitive or bad when I lose.

I don't see why it matters, i'm going to win regardless of how this thing is seeded.

#FIGHTINGTALK

Crai will prove himself #1 Scotland if he gets in the top 3.

Cant. Fucking. Wait

Deathosaurus wrote: 2ue

Crai will prove himself #1 Scotland if he gets in the top 3.

Yeah, he can finally say he's better than SoraRoxas01 if he does that

WeedMaster wrote: 5h6m40

Yeah, he can finally say he's better than SoraRoxas01 if he does that

Yeah, but he's a hacker. I'll never be able to reach the sick feats he has achieved, such as Shotgun Senorita FC and Golden Sky + DT FC.

Come 'UK osu!standard 2 R064 map pool' for practicing. Currently room is not made.

im not a hacker

WeedMaster wrote: 5h6m40

Yeah, he can finally say he's better than SoraRoxas01 if he does that

Wow the bm

SoraRoxas01 wrote: 3m5e3w

im not a hacker

Also the more you try to deny it the more you look like you are a lovesmacker~


So many UK players are cheaters or have multi-s. I know we all know of one of them.
Now where was that Spare pack of digestives I had lying around...

I'm amazed nobody talked shit about the mappool.


I guess all complaints are in Andrea's inbox now

Huehuehuehue~ Get ready for the rush~! Liking the map pool atm

navi agree, winner loser bracket sounds very compelling.

oh and in regards to the previous post, im not disrespecting any players or at least didnt mean to (soz charley you are better than me for that matter) but it just seemed to me that most of the top 10 were bunched in the last letters of the bracket and you alone were in the top facing very few to players till mabye 5th game, just an opinion, dont get too wound up over it, just a little criticism


sorry again portal that you had to deal with people questioning you over match fixing as a result of my post

Sadly EatYourMatress has suffered some tech issues and has requested a drop out. His opp, [ Thanatos ] shall enjoy a advancement to the second round. Guess you can say this is first blood xD

AmaiHachimitsu wrote: a664c

I'm amazed nobody talked shit about the mappool.


I guess all complaints are in Andrea's inbox now

No people have complained

AmaiHachimitsu wrote: a664c

I'm amazed nobody talked shit about the mappool.


I guess all complaints are in Andrea's inbox now

The ar8 map is pretty hilarious, overall the pool is fine.

Far East Nightbird? Its only streams, no jumps lol. Even a weakling like me could read it

Deathosaurus wrote: 2ue

Crai will prove himself #1 Scotland if he gets in the top 3.

But on another note, for those of you too lazy to all the maps individually, here you go.
https://mega.co.nz/#!VBIEAR5C!f9BUeshKDyNkRpwmFWSdgSZo5ZGnIXQ-mByrDlClm1E

Puush was being a biiiit of a diked and had problems connecting. So for now take this Mega link and enjoy!
If puush decides to work sooner or later, I'll a puush for it as well.

I thought the map pool was going to be piss hard difficult but I can play most of those maps, I might be able to tiebreaker.
heh...

That was the point of it.

Everybody should be able to play those maps more or less, but those better players will find them easier to fc under the pressure.

Is it just me or are the HR maps hard

vidya wrote: o2a7

Is it just me or are the HR maps hard

I hate to reveal my weakness, but I've lost anyway.. If Jesus1412 chose a HR map, he'd get a point instantly.

My priorities when choosing hr maps were:

reasonably low hp drain
not-so-hard to full combo


Kinema might be hard to high acc, but you can still pull off a fc. There is one slowdown when you might fail but just after there is a bunch of consecutive reverse sliders so you can revive easily. D:

Overall easy maps, able to full combo
Question though are the maps gonna be harder as we move through the rounds?

AmaiHachimitsu wrote: a664c

There is one slowdown when you might fail but just after there is a bunch of consecutive reverse sliders so you can revive easily. D:

PortalLife wrote: 404e4b

If you fail, you lose that map.

Question though are the maps gonna be harder as we move through the rounds?

Of course, we plan to tell boys and men apart as soon as in RO16

vidya wrote: o2a7

AmaiHachimitsu wrote: a664c

There is one slowdown when you might fail but just after there is a bunch of consecutive reverse sliders so you can revive easily. D:

PortalLife wrote: 404e4b

If you fail, you lose that map.

AFAIK It's not that you can't recover. You will lose the map only when you fail and don't recover. I'll ask Portal about it but since he is doing this tournament in OWC fashion in of match rules, it should be the way I just said.

In team vs, you fail when the team fails. These are teams of 1.

The question is if we can recover, it should be in the rules :<

The answer is that if you die, you die. That's how it was last time

I don't like it, but well. Just please make sure it's obvious from reading the rules. (write sth like "When you fail, you lose the map [even if you recover])


In this case Kinema Lolita is not a suitable pick (though I think its hp drain is still low enough, there are scores with like 95 accuracy on HHR)

You don't recover in team vs. 1v1, you just die straight up when your HP reaches 0 and it goes to score screen.

oh, right

[16:12:38] AshleyCarnine: Yo C3Swamp can't play in the tournament cause he broke his wrist
[16:12:47] AshleyCarnine: and he's too pussy to tell you himself

Well RIP. Charleyzard gets a win.

I know the feels, man.

After some timetable problems, first blood (true) has been shed, SoraRoxas01 3-0's his match:

http://osu-ppy-sh.jeuxcrack.net/mp/5330834

gz

Congratz. It was fun. I wish everyone the best of luck for their matches

After seeing the scores for a game, I'm suddenly more hyped for my game. Best of luck to everyone!

Will the tourney be live streamed by anyone?
It would be cool

Navi wrote: 283469

Will the tourney be live streamed by anyone?
It would be cool

Deatho will be doing a stream of some if not all of it.

I will be streaming some of the games depending if I am available.

This will be on http://www.twitch.tv/deathosaurus777

There will be commentary but it wont be anything serious. If you want to take part just add me on skype and I will get you into the call.
I know for sure that Crai and I will be speaking on stream~

My skype name can be found on my profile.

Something about Navi

Matches starting today, ill post results in this post, keep checking here and on challoenge

Maybe I should actually practice the maps before hand next time.

Good luck to the rest of you.

Looking good

Why did I even wake up? >_>

jesus1412 wrote: 6h1r1a

I win lesgo.

You're well on your way to becoming an osu! rhythm champion!

Garchojoker pulls out because he cant anny of the maps. Omentaphobia enjoys free win x)

The tension and nervous feelz are also an obstacle, oh well...better play better next time~ good luck to everyone else ed the first round ^^

pretty interesting how everyone plays while under a bit of pressure, spectators and the stream.
Separates the men from the boys!
Well done to everyone who got through and better luck next time to those that didn't.

I am happy to announce we've gained offical backing so we now have the cilent needed to stream (Deathosaurus will do this)
And we have prizes avaialbe!

1st place - 6 months er
2nd place - 3 months er
3rd place - 1 month er

yeeeeeey stream!

Nice~I shall spectate(^з^)-☆ふふふ～～

Starry- wrote: d5v5v

I know the feels, man.

LOL

PortalLife wrote: 404e4b

Chunelle vs Snookie
Noshow, Snookie wins

im too good for him

PortalLife wrote: 404e4b

I am happy to announce we've gained offical backing so we now have the cilent needed to stream (Deathosaurus will do this)
And we have prizes avaialbe!

1st place - 6 months er
2nd place - 3 months er
3rd place - 1 month er

wow now i have to try a little bit wtf

Please only post once instead of 3 times in a row, thanks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZcvYZxjNf4

Hello, want to remind something, but I am thinking that your Harukaze Dance link is wrong (or maybe you should put maaagic as the mapper )

Updates: The tournament cilent will not work for us sadly so we have to not use it and do our traditional streaming method: One player at a time. Sorry guys.

Two people have dropped out due to personal circumstances:

Crai and spaminabox. Their opp's will advance.

zozozofun wrote: 73x3y

Please only post once instead of 3 times in a row, thanks.

bit rood

Please , I don't mind being hated.

Good luck to everyone left and have fun.

You too man!

Count me

I just fucked up big time. I was gonna use Lauriers Harukaze but put maagics in by accident and its quite a bit harder than what I wanted for this round //facedesking

GG ._.

RO32 results!

I lost 3 -0, but I don't mind, it was still fun

Se you guys again in the summer tournament o/

New map pool is out! And we have got a working proper stream with the client now. Make sure to watch here: http://www.twitch.tv/deathosaurus777

Thanatos forefited due to some problems
Could This Be won 3-1 http://osu-ppy-sh.jeuxcrack.net/mp/5546205

PortalLife wrote: 404e4b

New map pool is out! And we have got a working proper stream with the client now. Make sure to watch here: http://www.twitch.tv/deathosaurus777

Nice one

Good luck to everyone still in! (including me xD welp)

Well, Behaviour got banned so SoraRoxas01 advances, rip

Main results:

Viremon vs Doomsday
http://osu-ppy-sh.jeuxcrack.net/mp/5638240
0-4

Navi vs Snookie
https://osu-ppy-sh.jeuxcrack.net/mp/5639721
3-0, Snookie ragequit after the 3rd map

Just Miku vs Cozzzy
http://osu-ppy-sh.jeuxcrack.net/mp/5643962
2-4
(miku failed first on the last map, he was given the loss)

Could This Be vs Kardet
https://osu-ppy-sh.jeuxcrack.net/mp/5645137
4-1
(one chocolate run was redone due to tech problems)
vidya vs jesus1412
https://osu-ppy-sh.jeuxcrack.net/mp/5647698
3-4

iLikeMudkipz vs sullyjhf
http://osu-ppy-sh.jeuxcrack.net/mp/5666212
(first map was redone due to bancho disconnects)
4-0

PortalLife vs Neroh
https://osu-ppy-sh.jeuxcrack.net/mp/5670869
4-0

gg

that tiebreaker really is too slow though

also portal Navi vs Snookie has the same link from Viremon vs Doomsday