/me jumps out of thinking chamber

okay so guys, let's start planning those videos! *with high spirits* :3
Since it will be a series, here's how I think the flow should go (these will be really short videos since people like me hate long endless boring tuts) :

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I. INTRODUCTION
A. Choosing A Song To Map
^^^ Kind of subjective. Unless you want to adhere to osu stereotypes, I would only discuss this briefly.
1. to change bitrate.
2. Song length
3. Recommendations for beginner level maps- what should you start out mapping- and what songs you should try to avoid.
4. ^ example maps of each
B. Getting Familiar With The Editor (osu!std only)
I'm not sure what we would be getting familiar with... Everything is going to be covered in part II. This should be the introduction to part II
II. GETTING STARTED
A. Setting Up A Song Difficulty
1. How will we go about instructing this? What guidelines?
B. Timing Your Map Properly
1. I could perhaps be helpful unless you know some super timers out there. (charles!)
2. Will need visual indications- edit in arrows, and make sure people understand what's going on
3. Tap the beat is only semi-useful. Cover manual timing/finding proper offset
C. Adding Timing Sections And Kiai Time
1. Red lines, green lines, bookmarks? differences
2. Introduce the timing setup
3. Introduction to volume adjustment
4. style tab- when to start/end kiai
D. Placing Notes, Sliders, And Spinners
1. Really straight forward??? If we're teaching them how to time first, it seems weird that these really obvious parts are tought later. Unless we're structuring this as a beatmap from start to finish. That would be difficult. Timing should be moved lower down on the video list
2. what about slider velocity?
E. Using The Editor Features: Distance Snap, Grid Snap, etc.
1. Distance snap, use it!!!!!one
F. Customizing The Hitsounds (Preset Ones)
III. BASICS OF MAPPING
A. Mapping Techniques: Most Common Note Patterns
-Which patterns?
1. Common mapping styles/themes
2. Mapping Easy/Normal/Hard/Insane < a lot right here
3. include symmetry somewhere
4. Flow (charles!)

B. Map Editor Features: Flip and Rotate < is it that complex that it needs it's own part?
C. Mapping Techniques: Advanced Note Patterns
Oh boy....
D. Polishing Your Map
Nazi!!!!...
1. ai-mod?
2. Consistency (spacing, difficulty, hitsounds)
IV. DEG YOUR MAP
A. Adding A Background Image And Color
1. NSFW
B. Adding A Video
1. rankability
2. It's not pirating, it's borrowing :p
C. Optimizing Your Video
D. Introduction To Storyboarding
E. Basics Of Storyboarding
1. Basics are not really basic.
V. ADVANCED MAPPING
A. Using Different Time Signatures
1. Include visual aid
B. Using Advanced Beat Snaps
1. Good luck
C. Adding Custom Hitsounds
D. <insert Charles445 threads here>
VI. ADVANCED CUSTOMIZATION AND DESIGN
A. Most Common Storyboarding Techniques
B. Adding Custom Skin Elements
C. Advanced Customization Techniques
VII. GAME MODE SPECIFIC MAPS
A. Mapping Taiko Difficulties
B. Mapping CTB Difficulties But we still don't know what we're doing!!!!
C. Mapping mania Difficulties ^^^^
VIII. PUBLISH YOUR BEATMAP Why is this at the very end of the tutorials. you're going to make them go through all the advanced stuff before they are allowed to submit?
A. Submitting Your Map
B. Keeping Your Map Up-To-Date
C. Getting Your Map Ranked

so more or less we should be able to produce 25+ short videos, including in-depth sb discussions and basic game mode specific mapping. We need someone to make the awesome videos, someone to record their sexy voices, and a lot of people adding up info for each video. ^_^

Edit: I went browsing some Charles445 threads, and it made me want to put a super advanced mapping techniques section xD

Yes, I know there are some topics up there that will be useless. It needs repolishing.

^ Damn right

• 1. GETTING STARTED
  
  I. Finding a Song
  
  -How to choose the proper song
  -Editing that song to the proper bitrate.
  -Setting title/artist information/other information
  -Introduction to setup
  
  II. Basic timing
  
  -Tap method
  -Using playback rate
  -Explain down beats, and how to find them
  -Finding an offset
  -Explain tick rates and briefly go over the Beat Snap divisor (1/3rd is not beginner friendly)
  -BPM fine-tuning
  
  III. Buttons, Objects, and Tabs, oh my! :p
  
  -Explain circles, sliders, and spinners.
  -Repeaters
  -Briefly explain changing the slider velocity (save how to use it for the next video)
  -Explain hitsound buttons lightly.
  -Go through each tab and explain it's purpose
  
  2. WHAT DIFFICULTY AM I MAKING?
  
  I. Naming your difficulty
  
  -Naming conventions
  
  II. Choosing the Right Settings
  
  -Making an Easy
  -Making a Normal
  -Making a Hard
  -Making an Insane
  -what you should avoid
  -Setting Slider Velocity for each difficulty
  -Show how it affects objects
  
  III. Using inheriteds and bookmarks
  
  -Main uses for creating an inherited section
  -Briefly mention kiai
  -Explain their relevance in the timeline.
  -Explain bookmarks and how to use them
  
  IV. Creating new difficulties
  
  -Use Save as New Difficulty
  -To clear or not to clear?
  
  3. LETS START MAPPING
  
  I. Time-distance Equality rule
  
  -What is distance snap?
  -When is it alright to not use distance snap?
  -Changing distance snap
  -Introduction to basic jumps
  -Introduction to flow (leave indepth discussion to a later part)
  -Jump or no jump?
  -What is gridsnap?
  -How is it used?
  
  II. Basic Hitsounding
  
  -Finding the main beat
  -Choosing the right hitsound
  -How to avoid hitsound spam
  -Introduction to adjusting hitsound volumes and sampleset with inherited sections
  -Commonly used hitsound techniques
  -2,4 beat
  -Gradual increase/decrease in volume
  -Finding sub-rhythms
  -Finding a balance (audio levels complement the music)
  -wrap up hitsounding (inform that choosing custom samplesets is an advanced technique and will be covered later)
  
  III. Combo usage
  
  -Introduction to combos
  -How to change a combo.
  -When to change a combo.
  -Guidelines to changing a combo
  -Choosing custom combos colors
  
  IV. Slider Types
  
  -Introduction to symmetry
  -Different slider types/techniques
  -Common curves
  -S and wave sliders (reference RandomJibberish)
  -U sliders
  -Using red points/corner sliders
  -Wigglies
  -Flipping/rotating
  -Is slider art okay?
  -Which slider type should I use?
  
  V. Spinners
  
  -Proper spinner placement (mapping into/out of a spinner)
  -Proper spinner length per difficulty
  -How OD affects spinners
  -How to fix a spinner that's too short
  
  4. BASIC TECHNIQUES

TheVileOne wrote: 4cy22

Now to get back on topic, I imagine there to be an collaborative mapping chat, who wants this? Something that opens to all participants. The code is already there waiting to be repurposed. It would be nice to be able to send private messages that would be received by multiple participants in game.

The more I think about it, the more I want this.

Kuro wrote: 2z3c2

Something more like live editing, where you and other collaborators can place objects in real time. Sort of like, inviting friends to create worlds with you in LBP, in which everything is done in real time.

MillhioreF wrote: 6w3d4u

From the OP of the collab mapping thread:

cheesiest wrote: 481m39

There'd be a supervisor(the map creator), and the others in the room. The supervisor can give permissions to people in that room to either start placing objects and inherited sections, add hitsounds, and any other thing that would fit.

The supervisor could deny any kind of editing privileges to the others in the room, essentially only letting them spectate.

Kitsunemimi wrote: 724j25

This is the best feature request in the world and you should all pile all your stars onto it.

MillhioreF wrote: 6w3d4u

"LBP" is LittleBigPlanet, where you can invite friends to edit mode with you and let them modify things along with you. It's pretty much the ideal for multiplayer editing.

Raose wrote: 3e202o

s u p p o r t

Kardet wrote: 2b5x5c

Not sure if I would ever use this, (since I'm terrible at mapping) but it seems like a really cool idea and I would love to see it implemented.

+26

[Luanny] wrote: 1a3g5e

why isn't this a thing yet?

peppy wrote: 6w4l42

I'll make a deal: If someone creates a series of video tutorials on mapping in osu! – something I've hoped would have been done by now without even having to ask – I will put everything to one side and make something like this happen. This is not a new idea, and it is something I have been keen to implement, but there is a lot involved in making it work correctly.

Hell, I might even settle for new video tutorials on installing and loading new maps into osu! or anything really. I's so sad to see so few quality tutorial videos .

Raose wrote: 3e202o

s u p p o r t

Timorisu wrote: 3l4823

Raose wrote: 3e202o

s u p p o r t

peppy wrote: 6w4l42

I'll make a deal: If someone creates a series of video tutorials on mapping in osu! – something I've hoped would have been done by now without even having to ask – I will put everything to one side and make something like this happen. This is not a new idea, and it is something I have been keen to implement, but there is a lot involved in making it work correctly.

Hell, I might even settle for new video tutorials on installing and loading new maps into osu! or anything really. I's so sad to see so few quality tutorial videos .

meigs2 wrote: 3j551e

What mapping videos have been made? I'd be more than happy to make a few to get this implemented! I have enough knowledge on mapping to make some basic tutorials like timing a map or setting the offset and some basic mapping techniques. I guess I'll also make some videos on some basic stuff like setting your universal offset and using a skin. What other videos should I make?

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Liiraye wrote: 66492b

meigs2 wrote: 3j551e

What mapping videos have been made? I'd be more than happy to make a few to get this implemented! I have enough knowledge on mapping to make some basic tutorials like timing a map or setting the offset and some basic mapping techniques. I guess I'll also make some videos on some basic stuff like setting your universal offset and using a skin. What other videos should I make?

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http://www.youtube.com//osuacademy/videos


We don't have to do anything, it's already done and more vids keep coming out by a selected few people. All we have to do now is to await this feature!

peppy wrote: 6w4l42

I'll make a deal: If someone creates a series of video tutorials on mapping in osu! – something I've hoped would have been done by now without even having to ask – I will put everything to one side and make something like this happen. This is not a new idea, and it is something I have been keen to implement, but there is a lot involved in making it work correctly.

Hell, I might even settle for new video tutorials on installing and loading new maps into osu! or anything really. I's so sad to see so few quality tutorial videos .

Liiraye wrote: 66492b

Just got it confirmed that peppy is planning on making it (at least before he dies), he just has a lot to do.

Probably doesnt say much but at least it's confirmed that it will be done some day

shoumei

Satyrsaw wrote: 42l24

This you a great idea. But i haven seen the post of the comfimation of this. Btw Ztrot has been working an a great series, realy great job. So that might be the videos that peppy asked for.

Liiraye wrote: 66492b

Just got it confirmed that peppy is planning on making it (at least before he dies), he just has a lot to do.

Probably doesnt say much but at least it's confirmed that it will be done some day

shoumei

AndRay2014 wrote: 1a2b6f

Guys, I wanted to ask a question.
If this feature is implemented, will peppy have enough server capacity to handle this? Say, we have average 15000 people connnected.
I know .osu files are light but we already have multiplaying, normal playing scores, calculating PP, chatting, wiki posts and normal BSS.

Don't get me wrong though, I really liked the idea. I just want to know if this can be done

ashihiro wrote: 514s13

Well, as measured by the game itself: Mod, get help.

Why not raise this concept? Why not take the improvement of mappers to a new level?

With the Edit / Modding Room, the mapper can take help of modding in real time, the mapper can make changes and modders he can give ideas and invite their views during the edit, making it much faster and easy way to map.

Moreover, it can be also used a "personal" chat mapper and their modders and the system of "notes", where a modder have a suggestion it adds a note, and it will appear as a "post-it" on screen mapper and click it to see what is in the message.

As soon as possible will be putting pictures as would be the Edit / Modding Room.

Edit #1:
Some pictures of Edit / Modding Room

Edit #2: The command to add your modders to the room chat could be "/modinvite Nickname"
And they receive the link in pm.



Johan.