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This release continues to fix some elements of the new skin which were affecting older skins (there's still a few cases left like the ranking screen which I am still working on – bear with me!). It also adds an exciting new feature called unified scoreboards. You will now see friends, same mod plays and local scores all in the same listing at the song select screen! This is currently limited to ers only while I load test the system, but this may change in the future.



A quick video of unified scoreboards in action:

Hopefully this will make the game much more competitive for players which aren't aiming for the top 50ish scores, which are highly contested. You can now see how you are doing against your friends and people who play using the same difficulty modifiers as you.

This build also adds a button to make it more apparent that online ranking is available at the ranking screen by scrolling down.



More to come :).
Nice peppy !
Buccakazu
O.K Peppy
Nice update ^^
So we can't see top 400 anymore?
not that i need it~ :3
That seems pretty neat. Great job on the updates peppy :)
What I wish is that ers could disable it permanently and get the "Show local scores" button back.
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Show local scores is gone forever unless you play offline ().
I like this scoreboard. I dig it.
Looks good. hueheuhe.

peppy wrote: 6w4l42

Show local scores is gone forever unless you play offline ().
How nice. How do we adapt skins for the new scoreboard? (background colors are not shown)
Also, why are guys that are ranked like #10 are shown as -- in the unified ranking ?
This seams a good idea but I'll miss the ability to show scores up to 400, because it is usfull for seing if all top 400 players use mods or not when you want to try to FC a map to gain a few PP (Because sometimes a FC nomod makes you top 1000+)

peppy wrote: 6w4l42

Show local scores is gone forever unless you play offline ().
what about unranked maps- could you enable it there ?
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Arnold0 wrote: 6g3r1c

This seams a good idea but I'll miss the ability to show scores up to 400, because it is usfull for seing if all top 400 players use mods or not when you want to try to FC a map to gain a few PP (Because sometimes a FC nomod makes you top 1000+)
pp will very soon consider all scores, rather than the top ~1000. Don't worry about this.

Piotrekol wrote: 3y6w13

what about unranked maps- could you enable it there ?
Yes, I will fix this over the coming days.

Piotrekol wrote: 3y6w13

peppy wrote: 6w4l42

Show local scores is gone forever unless you play offline ().
what about unranked maps- could you enable it there ?
Unified rankings show local scores for unranked maps I just tested ^^

Arnold0 wrote: 6g3r1c

Piotrekol wrote: 3y6w13

what about unranked maps- could you enable it there ?
Unified rankings show local scores for unranked maps I just tested ^^
But you can't use Unified rankings unless you're er.
#edit
actually it seems that it's working somehow for unrankeds:
Looks cool. :)
With this my friends will always be seeing my shameful scores on most maps since I play a lot of maps but hardly ever really try to get a good score on them, just ing is enough for me.
That's rather nice, but what's that number that sometimes is displayed as -- ? I'm guessing it's the score difference with the previous best record ?

EDIT: it's the difference in points with the next player in the ranking.
This is great. Can't wait for it to be available for everyone.

I'm considering spending some money right now, I'd so love to have that right now... (Edit: I got er ._. )

qlum wrote: 736f58

With this my friends will always be seeing my shameful scores on most maps since I play a lot of maps but hardly ever really try to get a good score on them, just ing is enough for me.
Same for me. I'm too bad to get high scores so I just play through the maps hoping to get an S ranking. Trying to beat friends would be a great new goal to go for.


Right, here +91 is the difference with Lance's score, and the +427 023 the difference with my best score
Auto scrolling triggers my OCD. :D

I'm not too impressed though. Switching between online/local/friend scoreboards would be better in my opinion. It looks a bit messy this way. I guess I'll get used to it. :|

Piotrekol wrote: 3y6w13

But you can't use Unified rankings unless you're er.
It seems that it only applies to seeing friends' score right now.
But why all scores are blues (Without er) exept my not local best score ?

I think these colors are better, no ?

I'm bit disagree with we can't see top #400 anymore, sad ):
looking good
Pretty cool, but that scrolling is like blah. I'm more interested in looking at the part of the scoreboard I'm at, rather than scrolling away from the score. (Yes the scrolling stops by mouse-over, but let's say you're looking for a score, finds it, then opens chat, changes tab -> moves away mouse).

Aaaand a lot of times I'm usually just interested in the top scores anyway, so this scrolling behaviour is like ;_;

Other than that the new scoreboard is cool though!
This is just amazing. Thank you.

These has now been marked as added:
t/88988/

however, the automatic scrolling thing is a bit annoying. It should only scroll down if you're not moving/touching anything at all. So if you're moving your cursor or typing, it should go back up again. many even wants to disable it completely.

I also think sudden death and perfect mod ranks should be ignored as a default for all mods you can select, but once you select one of the two you start to filter out all the other ones.
omg nice so cool <3

theowest wrote: tpu

however, the automatic scrolling thing is a bit annoying. It should only scroll down if you're not moving/touching anything at all. So if you're moving your cursor or typing, it should go back up again.
The score list don't scroll down only when you moving on it, and you must go back, it don't scroll up if you don't use the mouse wheel or move up the scroll bar
maal
this looks really great, no doubt about it

but i can see that just from a quick glance at it, it looks kind of cluster-ish. just a small notice

but yeah good job!
http://puu.sh/2nESi - this is what my unified scoreboard looks like now. The scores won't load. I have a really slow internet connection, but normally scores would load with about one second delay, so I think it's not because of my internet. The normal (not unified) scoreboard won't load either.

I restarted my client and it worked again, but when I clicked another beatmap, it wouldn't load...
Morbon_old
That "--" instead of ranks - is it normal?
primrose
Local scores... ;___:

Demmon wrote: 1v2j2c

theowest wrote: tpu

however, the automatic scrolling thing is a bit annoying. It should only scroll down if you're not moving/touching anything at all. So if you're moving your cursor or typing, it should go back up again.
The score list don't scroll down only when you moving on it, and you must go back, it don't scroll up if you don't use the mouse wheel or move up the scroll bar
I know that, but this is the change I'm suggesting.
Many already wants to be able to disable this.

Morbon wrote: 3l1e1d

That "--" instead of ranks - is it normal?
Yes, that's normal. When you have unified ranking checked you see the ranks with mods you have selected, they can be any rank.
This is obviously to avoid a cluttered online ranking.
Awesome update, but one thing bothers me:
I can't see local scores during playing anymore and I am not good enough to get rank #50+ on nomod, so seeing these during playing doesn't help and makes the in-game scoreboard pretty much useless for me since I don't have many friends.

mario182 wrote: 461r4

Awesome update, but one thing bothers me:
I can't see local scores during playing anymore and I am not good enough to get rank #50+ on nomod, so seeing these during playing doesn't help and makes the in-game scoreboard pretty much useless for me since I don't have many friends.
Oh yes, true

And, if we view the top 50, we should can view all replay (Can't view replay ender top 40)
Topic Starter
Local scores should show up in-game. Please report this in tech if it is replicable.
Disable auto-scrolling.
The only things I don't like about this is the unified ranking being turned on after I finish every map and the scrolling down on the ranking display thing. Other than those, this is pretty nice!
Topic Starter
It scrolls until it reaches your own score.

peppy wrote: 6w4l42

Show local scores is gone forever unless you play offline ().
but can local scores are shown only during gameplay even which is gone on song select screen?

peppy wrote: 6w4l42

Show local scores is gone forever unless you play offline ().
But i like to see my scores on the left of the screen while I'm playing :cry:

I want the local scores button back :cry:
Topic Starter
As per above, this is likely a bug.

spaghetti2222 wrote: 6xb4q

peppy wrote: 6w4l42

Show local scores is gone forever unless you play offline ().
But i like to see my scores on the left of the screen while I'm playing :cry:

I want the local scores button back :cry:
I reported this here: p/2198503
But since this seems to be a bug anyways, awesome update, keep up the good work, peppy :)

peppy wrote: 6w4l42

Arnold0 wrote: 6g3r1c

This seams a good idea but I'll miss the ability to show scores up to 400, because it is usfull for seing if all top 400 players use mods or not when you want to try to FC a map to gain a few PP (Because sometimes a FC nomod makes you top 1000+)

peppy wrote: 6w4l42

pp will very soon consider all scores, rather than the top ~1000. Don't worry about this.
So the pp system is going to change? :o
I really like this unified ranking system. But i don't really understand how it exactlty works or why i can't see people's ranking place.

Also, i scored an A that was better than my S a few moments ago. The A was saved online, but what was shown was the S. If i wanted to check my A I had to scroll.
Things like that make me think i don't know how this new system works.

It really looks good. but i miss the buttons on top.

I think it would be nice if i could go to options and disable autoscrolling or choose what i want to be shown in a way i could choose.

mario182 wrote: 461r4

I reported this here: p/2198503
But since this seems to be a bug anyways, awesome update, keep up the good work, peppy :)
Sometimes my local score is on the left when I'm playing and sometimes it is not. Guessing it must be a bug since it's not permanent.
Great. Another useless innovation. Online Local scores (you kidding, right? its local, why now this need online?), automatic scrolling in the score list (very annoying thing), bye top400, hello top5 http://puu.sh/2nFEK, people with same mods - how nice and useless things. Friends best scores maybe one good point from "update".
Ranking must be like this


But it's like this (Blue color only)


It's harder to read
Dislike. i want see only local scores. Old style with swithcer was better
I dislike this fix

Now custom spinners are not transparent anymore :(

The spinner i had edited looked like this


But now it looks like this

I want to see flanchan again behind the spinner :/
Topic Starter

RbwDash wrote: 5j12o

Dislike. i want see only local scores. Old style with swithcer was better
Please play offline.

[SAK]KING_OF_SA wrote: 14g5o

Now custom spinners are not transparent anymore :(
skin.ini SpinnerFadePlayfield:0
or "Prefer new default skin" in skin options.

frfrfr wrote: 3i2k4w

ye top400, hello top5
You can toggle this. By definition innovation cannot be useless, but I'm sorry you feel this way. Hopefully next update will have a more useful innovation for you. I think this one will be useful to the majority of the community, though.
wow, nice update!
but why are there so many random people with low score there?

peppy wrote: 6w4l42

[SAK]KING_OF_SA wrote: 14g5o

Now custom spinners are not transparent anymore :(
skin.ini SpinnerFadePlayfield:0
or "Prefer new default skin" in skin options.
hooo hoooh. I'm definetly doint that. thanks.
I really like this new feature!
Now will it be the turn for "Country" Unified scores? I will hope and wait for that too!

Don Omar wrote: 6u593i

wow, nice update!
but why are there so many random people with low score there?
your friends

theowest wrote: tpu

Don Omar wrote: 6u593i

wow, nice update!
but why are there so many random people with low score there?
your friends
random people
Stop downgrade Ose!.. please
>ose
Aww, where did the local scores go..? I liked it the way it was before better. .. oh, well. gotta get used to it. D:

(But please, PLEASE add an option somewhere to disable auto-scrolling! it's a nice idea, yah, but really irritating as well.. at least for me. @.@)
Edit: Yeay, just noticed that auto-scrolling disappeared! Like it waaay better non-moving. (:
EDIT:
Found my local scores, but the old one is definitely better than this. Especially that scroll at the result screen, christ that looks so annoying.

Demmon wrote: 1v2j2c

Ranking must be like this


But it's like this (Blue color only)


It's harder to read

it's like this because ur not er.
Nice update! Autoscrolling is a bit annoying but from the outcry I assume it'll be fixed soon.

The two things I'd like to see changed:
1. More top overall scores: Maybe not back to 400, but 40 would be nice.
2. An option to put your local scores at the top. Having to scroll down to them all the time is a little annoying.

Otherwise I really like the idea. I need more friends :P
лучше бы заместо нового скина дал возможность отключить всю эту фигню :|
Nice update again !
Well, I have to say new score system is cool, but can't see up to Top 400 is... ;_;

Btw, autoscroll is not much annoying, indeed is cool.

Xplayer1 wrote: 4t131n

1. More top overall scores: Maybe not back to 400, but 40 would be nice.
The new limit is rank 50, but you will see pretty much all ranks with the mods you have selected anyway with unified.

Xplayer1 wrote: 4t131n

2. An option to put your local scores at the top. Having to scroll down to them all the time is a little annoying.
That's actually a pretty good suggestion.
I only want top400 back while not using "Unified scores" setting, and the "Refresh button"..
Top400 was a very good idea..
Yukki_old_1
just want to say

from what i see that's pretty much useless @@
Is there any way -not- to show local scores on the online scoreboards? Right now it looks something like this:

It looks even worse on songs i whored.. so yeah. Not a er atm though so not sure if intended zz

I still prefer the classic top 6
z and c keys are placing notes since the latest update for me, which is very frustrating when trying to map and using keyboard shortcuts.
I wonder what are these scores

Those are the score differences between the player and the player below.

Mashley wrote: 134c1t

z and c keys are placing notes since the latest update for me, which is very frustrating when trying to map and using keyboard shortcuts.
you've hit ctrl-tab somehow and activated live-mapping mode, hit it again to disable xc override

edit: no, you're right. this is my bad. i've got lua on the brain and completely fucked up the condition for check livemapping status. i'll push a fix right away. have peppy fix my hrorible code and already have a public build up with the fix before i even noticed.

Rock Forever wrote: 725d4w

I wonder what are these scores

Next to the score, you see how many points MORE this score has to the previous one.
Is there any way to close this score setting? -_-
Good update. Thanks, Peppy :)
i like the new update but i not prefer peppy make that local score gone just like that
:( :(
It'd be nice if there were 3 buttons: Top 40, Friends, and Local. It'd be much easier to understand in my opinion.
Like the overall update. Personally i haven't seen the local scoreboard autoscroll, but maybe I'm just not paying attention. One thing that confuses me is the point of the local score since it seems really cluttered when you have a lot of plays on a specific song. Also i think when you have a local score that is the same as your personal best its a bit redundant since you end up having 3 of the same score on the board.
The thing i would want to see changed is that maybe all local scores get moved under the personal best that shows the rank, then you dont have the issue like my image that shows a local score, a personal best, then more local scores.

So yea like the update, cant wait for unified to go live for free s(its a really nice feature but im certainly not paying for it haha)
Scrolling all the way down every time and no local scores is really annoying . qq

Takeda Shingen wrote: y3m70

Demmon wrote: 1v2j2c

Ranking must be like this


But it's like this (Blue color only)


It's harder to read

it's like this because ur not er.
So, because i'm not er, ranking is blue ? That idiot.

Rock Forever wrote: 725d4w

I wonder what are these scores

Look that

Demmon wrote: 1v2j2c



Right, here +91 is the difference with Lance's score, and the +427 023 the difference with my best score
that nice! peppy thanks!

good work!

:)
The more I play a song, the more my name shows up in the ranking screen. I really would like to prevent my entire top score list from filling up with my local scores. Is there some option I need to disable or something?

Yes yes yes yes yes yes

Thank you

Ephemeral wrote: 4k296t

Mashley wrote: 134c1t

z and c keys are placing notes since the latest update for me, which is very frustrating when trying to map and using keyboard shortcuts.
you've hit ctrl-tab somehow and activated live-mapping mode, hit it again to disable xc override

edit: no, you're right. this is my bad. i've got lua on the brain and completely fucked up the condition for check livemapping status. i'll push a fix right away. have peppy fix my hrorible code and already have a public build up with the fix before i even noticed.
Thanks :) Now I can finish my map
peppy! What is this patch in the online ranking in the window says "+ number"?
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