Mere days away (for real this time!). I've finally got the quality up to scratch, the solution is to just print everything really slowly. I'm printing ~8 of each colour so I actually have stock to sell when I open orders. It's about 10 hours of printing so including breaks, 2 days absolute tops. Prepare your wallets
AnimeGod2205 wrote: s3w1y
i had a suggestion for a new color, the official osu! Shade of pink. I think it would be pretty nice to have that as a color option.
You're making me broke. Purchased 3 new rolls - osu! pink, silver and lime green.
Have also ordered the next 50 PCBs. Stock issues should subside
Mere days away (for real this time!). I've finally got the quality up to scratch, the solution is to just print everything really slowly. I'm printing ~8 of each colour so I actually have stock to sell when I open orders. It's about 10 hours of printing so including breaks, 2 days absolute tops. Prepare your wallets
AnimeGod2205 wrote: s3w1y
i had a suggestion for a new color, the official osu! Shade of pink. I think it would be pretty nice to have that as a color option.
You're making me broke. Purchased 3 new rolls - osu! pink, silver and lime green.
Have also ordered the next 50 PCBs. Stock issues should subside
Haha, I'm sorry. Thats awesome. Those are really god collors and i think that the osu! Pinkwill sel very well(i'm jellous cause i want a silver but ill just print it myself haha)
Another new idea since they come in parts , why not offer multicolor ones?
I totally would go for a transparent one, especially since they used to have a face on the board. But I was impatient and bought a white one as soon as they came out.
My tatacon just arrived in the mail, and after hours of butthurt trying to pair my Wiimote I got it to work. I note in the product features that it's so sensitive you can bounce your sticks for multihits; trying out the tatacon, though, I noticed it takes a good amount of force whacking it to get a hit. Is the converter more sensitive than the Wiimote, or is it a hardware thing? Because I really don't want to get noise complaints from my neighbors, during the night it sounds as loud as a real drum.
I totally would go for a transparent one, especially since they used to have a face on the board. But I was impatient and bought a white one as soon as they came out.
My tatacon just arrived in the mail, and after hours of butthurt trying to pair my Wiimote I got it to work. I note in the product features that it's so sensitive you can bounce your sticks for multihits; trying out the tatacon, though, I noticed it takes a good amount of force whacking it to get a hit. Is the converter more sensitive than the Wiimote, or is it a hardware thing? Because I really don't want to get noise complaints from my neighbors, during the night it sounds as loud as a real drum.
It can be heard throughout a household but not by neighbors. I ordered mine when it first came out which would be nice to get a clear case for.
well my converter came in today, i will say the 0 delay claim is true and it's really fun to use! still trying to get used to how to actually control the drumsticks and hit the correct part of the drum, i find myself often hitting a dead part of the drum when i try to hit kats c:
i think my drum is just trash though because it's having a lot of trouble ing even the most basic hits. i messed around with debouncing settings and stuff, and nothing seemed to make any difference. the drum was new and it's the same one that comes with taiko wii games, but i can't really test the drum on its own without the game.
regardless, after a 2+ hour session playing random maps to test it out, i have to say it's a lot of fun! i'll definitely do some more testing to confirm it's just the drum having problems and not the converter c:
For steps 9-10, I couldn't get a 5 mm hole puncher, so I stuffed the holes with tissue and put tape over the holes. I also stuffed some tissues into the empty area shown in step 3 to lessen the impact from hits.
You might have to do some more modifications after testing (some of the rubber would make the kat parts too sensitive on mine, so I had to cut those pieces of rubber off), but if you're willing to do that, the results are very noticeable.
On another note, I haven't gotten my converter yet, but I can't wait to use it. I might make a video on it if I can properly record it and show the improvement in delay.
For steps 9-10, I couldn't get a 5 mm hole puncher, so I stuffed the holes with tissue and put tape over the holes. I also stuffed some tissues into the empty area shown in step 3 to lessen the impact from hits.
You might have to do some more modifications after testing (some of the rubber would make the kat parts too sensitive on mine, so I had to cut those pieces of rubber off), but if you're willing to do that, the results are very noticeable.
On another note, I haven't gotten my converter yet, but I can't wait to use it. I might make a video on it if I can properly record it and show the improvement in delay.
yeah i've had people suggest i mod it, i'll definitely take a look c:
For steps 9-10, I couldn't get a 5 mm hole puncher, so I stuffed the holes with tissue and put tape over the holes. I also stuffed some tissues into the empty area shown in step 3 to lessen the impact from hits.
You might have to do some more modifications after testing (some of the rubber would make the kat parts too sensitive on mine, so I had to cut those pieces of rubber off), but if you're willing to do that, the results are very noticeable.
On another note, I haven't gotten my converter yet, but I can't wait to use it. I might make a video on it if I can properly record it and show the improvement in delay.
You mean I have to spend even more money on this? ;_; I'll take a look into this when I have an actual income and soundproofing on my walls, thanks!
That actually helps quite a bit. I'll have to try out the style you were holding the sticks with, I was trying it the way people always do it in the arcade TnT. Maybe I can get mine as responsive as yours.
That actually helps quite a bit. I'll have to try out the style you were holding the sticks with, I was trying it the way people always do it in the arcade TnT. Maybe I can get mine as responsive as yours.
i wouldn't recommend my style, i had no idea what i was doing cause i never played arcade before. i just tried a bunch of different ways and this is what felt right
update: i modded my drum and here's an update of how responsive the dons are now. still working on the kats, i'll hopefully get them just as perfect really soon!
update: i modded my drum and here's an update of how responsive the dons are now. still working on the kats, i'll hopefully get them just as perfect really soon!
I have no idea how you're hitting those kats, I'm just assuming that you're shifting your finger over and the camera isn't fast enough. Now it's time to figure out how spinners and bouncing works, eh?
I'm assuming you're using the guide from above; can I ask how much the mod cost you and where you bought everything from?
update: i modded my drum and here's an update of how responsive the dons are now. still working on the kats, i'll hopefully get them just as perfect really soon!
I have no idea how you're hitting those kats, I'm just assuming that you're shifting your finger over and the camera isn't fast enough. Now it's time to figure out how spinners and bouncing works, eh?
I'm assuming you're using the guide from above; can I ask how much the mod cost you and where you bought everything from?
oh, it was relax mod so i hit everything as a don c:
this was mainly just to show how responsive the drum itself was. i haven't modified any of the sensors for the rims yet. well i did, but i screwed them up so i reverted back to normal and i'll try them again tomorrow.
i used the exact guide you linked. the cork things cost me $7.99 for three + shipping, i managed to get some scrap rubber for free at home depot, and the rest of my shopping was buying a mini hole punch and some tape which probably cost me $3 total. it wasn't too bad at all, and the mod itself probably took me 2 hours. filling all of the holes with rubber takes more time than you'd think, plus i didn't really know exactly what i was doing.
just a warning, if you mod like this, you can't overlap the left and right side rim sensors with the rubber or both sides will be treated the same which can cause some problems. i also noticed there's a spot right in the middle of my drum that hits both dons at the same time, but that's super minor.
once i can perfect the sensors on the rims i'll update and let you know how it goes c:
i used the exact guide you linked. the cork things cost me $7.99 for three + shipping, i managed to get some scrap rubber for free at home depot, and the rest of my shopping was buying a mini hole punch and some tape which probably cost me $3 total. it wasn't too bad at all, and the mod itself probably took me 2 hours. filling all of the holes with rubber takes more time than you'd think, plus i didn't really know exactly what i was doing.
just a warning, if you mod like this, you can't overlap the left and right side rim sensors with the rubber or both sides will be treated the same which can cause some problems. i also noticed there's a spot right in the middle of my drum that hits both dons at the same time, but that's super minor.
once i can perfect the sensors on the rims i'll update and let you know how it goes c:
Didn't know Relax did that, the description isn't very specific. Look forward to the update!
My drum has the same mods as the neogaf post - I made the mistake of covering everything with rubber and I often hit kats and dons at the same time which was a huge pain. I've since taken it apart again and left gaps around the edges and it's much better. Also to leave gaps for the kats too! I'm still double hitting some kats when I shouldn't be, I'll take it apart and fix it for good soon...
So I have kind of a weird setup. Basically none of my laptops/tablets are able to handle Osu efficiently, & I can't play near my PC. So my only choice is to connect my PC from 10 meters away to the big screen TV using hdmi & usb extension cables. I run the game at 720p to prevent screen tearing, & the speaker is in the same room so the sound is fine.
But then the input lag from the tatacon is quite noticeable during high bpm songs, due to the long distant usb cord. I can still hit the notes if I focus on the beats, but the Don/Kat sounds are really distracting because they play a bit late after the hit.
Do you guys have any ideas how to reduce the latency? I did some googling & some people suggest using a USB hub, but I'm not sure if that's gonna make a different
Due to the nature of USB, it either works or it doesn't - there is no extra latency from a long USB cable (technically 30 nanoseconds, but that's about 100,000 times shorter than you can notice).
Is the audio coming through HDMI too? Some TVs can have atrocious input lag, and if it's handling the audio too it could explain it. If it's the audio, you may have to run a 3.5mm cable along with the rest
If that fails, try and look at the lights on the converter - see if they're also lagging. It could be the controller isn't sensitive enough and only s a hit some time after you actually make it. I think this is unlikely as even bad controllers hits on time, you just have to hit them really hard.
Aye I think this is a sweet Idea. I am kindo late to the Taiko segment of Osu, However my sister recently got this great interest in it and would like to play with the drum set. I was wondering what I should do about it because after a ton of research it seems that the default wii drum is bad. Do I absolutely have to Mod the drum or can I buy one that works good right away? After I figure what I will do about the drum, I would love to buy one of these converters to fix the lag problem!
I would definitely say the default wii drum 100% needs modding. That being said, there are 2 other options:
Hori drum. Practically arcade spec. $270. Somewhat overkill..
$30 Chinese knockoff drum. Feels funny to play on since they use real buttons instead of capacitive sensors, but without mods it plays better than the official drum without mods.
If you mod the official drum it's the best value for money, but if you don't want to mod anything I think the knockoff wins.
Yeeees I see, well I will more than likely be going for the mod-route then. I see the official Taiko Drum for like $50 bucks on amazon, so I figure it will be okay. I look forward to trying everything out!
What do you mean by modding the official drum? What are its shortcomings? Is there a guide anywhere on what you can do to make it better?
Edit: Actually, I just saw that GMMAwesome posted one just 2 pages ago: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.ph ... tcount=117
Also, thank you for all your hard work on making and distributing this converter!
If I buy a Wii tatacon drum or wii U tatacon are they both compatible with osu? Also if I use a wii tatacon u to usb converter do I by owning a wii console or wii U console entirely?
I can't off the top of my head but I'm pretty sure the Wii U drums also connect via the Nunchuck connector. If this is the case, it will work fine with my converter! You don't need a wii at all
Is it possible for shipping to Korea to be cheaper than normal?
Because the converter is small, I get away with pretending it's a "Large letter". Because of this, cost saving of sending to Korea is only 60 cents PM me if you're still interested
Yes, the drums are not cheap I am currently prototyping a "basic" version of the converter. It may be $15 instead of $25. I'm not sure if I can make it work. Shall see...
Having ed this is a thing, I'm highly considering picking one of these up once I have the funds to afford getting a wii drum. Possibly after the holidays depending on circumstances. Would be something great to play around with when I'm not up for really hard songs.
The adapter came in the mail in about 3 weeks, and there isn't any noticeable delay from it. The only thing I need to do is fix my tatacon's rim, the hits are not very accurate and I have to hit pretty hard for it to . Overall I'd give the adapter a 10/10. My drum however gets a 3/10.
Wow, that seems great!
I'll be ordering one since I was given a knock off Taiko remote, but I actually want to try and replicate your work as a side project.
Thing is, I know next to nothing about Arduino and the likes.
How do I go about making my own Tatacon to USB converter?
I'm prepared to learn whatever it takes.
Please enter cheesy Rozen Maiden quote here "Hey! That rotten devilish annoying doll makes me go nuts every single time!"
I just hoped on the taiko train, this seems really nice ~ Any updates on the refill ?
And since nobody ever asked ima ask here : can it work without installing Chrome - and ever better, can it be customised without using the Chrome app ? My
toaster laptop's burning at 60°C without anything launched, so I'm not too keen on installing new softwares on top of that.
If I had a dollar for every missed 'new message' notification from the forums, I'd have... at least 6 dollars.
SugoiReborn wrote: 546l4d
How do I go about making my own Tatacon to USB converter?
Arduino Leonardo (for keyboard emulation), nunchuck adapter for arduino ($1 off ebay) and communicate via I2C to the nunchuck. You can even use my code, just as long as you hook it up to the right pins.
Stalzak wrote: 1s733d
I just hoped on the taiko train, this seems really nice ~ Any updates on the refill ?
And since nobody ever asked ima ask here : can it work without installing Chrome - and ever better, can it be customised without using the Chrome app ? My
toaster laptop's burning at 60°C without anything launched, so I'm not too keen on installing new softwares on top of that.
Refill coming ~soon~, waiting for my PCB fab to ship. You do need the Chrome app to configure things, but can uninstall it once you do, since it re the settings.
Omenasai wrote: 6nl3g
is dis legit ??
110$% legit, I've almost sold 100!
Oh, and sorry to crush the colourful people, but the next batch will be black only (unless you 3D print your own case). I've had ongoing issues with getting parcels out on time, and I don't like being that guy. Making them all black lets me pre-print everything for massive gains in shipment speed.
USB adapter came in today. Works great! I have a question more so about osu. Is there any way to lower the sensitivity of drum hits? Because I feel like I have to hit really hard on the drum for it to hits.
Does all knockoff tatacon were made the same design? the official drum is very pricey
thinking of buying a knockoff since there is no way i can afford the official ones..
oh btw, is the discount still available? :3 /cheapskate
2 months late, I'm afraid. Knockoff is all the same (as far as I can tell) - design is simple and playable, you just have to hit don a little hard. And noisy. But it works well!
2 months late, I'm afraid. Knockoff is all the same (as far as I can tell) - design is simple and playable, you just have to hit don a little hard. And noisy. But it works well!
aww that sucks very new to taiko like a few days old lol. got bored with mania and decided to try something new. but I have always been fascinated with taiko drums! (the arcade)
i see. well guess i will only get to play during the day then if i were to get it
oh btw, may i know which type of knockoff drum do you own?
If there is more delay that's no problem but I would like to know if you are still alive
TREEToTREET wrote: 5e1x46
What about srock? And how many does it cost at all if its possible to send this in russia?
Sincere apologies, I've been overly busy in the leadup to Xmas - I should have posted an update sooner.
I've got all the parts, just need to print cases + solder things together. I've been having some Z-axis issues where the USB connector doesn't fit through the final print, so I've expanded tolerances and will reprint soon. I expect to have stock shortly after Christmas, maybe only a few days after boxing day.
-mon
PS: Russia is same as everywhere else, $25 delivered.
Still waiting for the parcel, but while I wait, I got hard numbers on latency.
Using my scope, I had 1 probe connected to a piezo mic, and another to the LED of the converter. This LED updates at 1KHz, the same rate as the USB update rate.
I then smacked the drum 50 times, and recorded the delay between the moment the piezo started to respond, and when the converter ed a hit. An example measurement:
After 50 hits, here are the results: Average: 1.802ms Median: 1.77ms Std Deviation: 0.44454517 Min: 1.1ms Max: 2.78ms
Rounding the max value up, I can confidently say that there is an absolute worst case 3ms lag. And average lag of 1.8ms. This is imperceptible. Lagfree = confirmed!
Well, I hope that this actually works Anyway, where can I buy dis thing
Phew.. 7 months since anyone said anything- luckily I do have a specific reason!
Does anyone know if MontyMintypie still sell these or is it completely inactive? I tried ing the sellers email(just to ask a few questions) and PM on this community but no response, so I figure I try asking here on the forum where maybe anyone might know? xD (Worth a short!)
Hey montymintypie! Are you still selling the USB adapters? I wrote you a few weeks ago to [email protected] and got no resply. I would like to purchase 2 of your awesome adapters if possible...
Hi,
I wanted to buy a Tatacon to USB converter but Paypal told me you don't have any left. So I wanted to ask if you had any left somewhere or if you would produce more of them sometimes.
It does not come with a drum, if that's what you're asking?