Also I feel like fakeclaiming Cop to bait a CC is kind of a bad strategy, especially in Day 1

Frostings wrote: l110

Also I feel like fakeclaiming Cop to bait a CC is kind of a bad strategy, especially in Day 1

Ok this is all kinds of wrong.

Sakura wrote: 1q3420

The question is more:

"Outside of his claim, are there any reasons to believe he's town?"

...he has not played Undertale?

I mean there are a lot of reason to lynch him but that one is still making me doubt, if he didn't actually know flowey was "evil"...

If he claimed doc I would have lynched him but Cop is such a busted role I kind of want to just deal with the WIFOM even if you guys can't.

Zexion wrote: 11654m

Sakura wrote: 1q3420

The question is more:

"Outside of his claim, are there any reasons to believe he's town?"

...he has not played Undertale?

I mean there are a lot of reason to lynch him but that one is still making me doubt, if he didn't actually know flowey was "evil"...

I've played 2 hours of it, I've already stated that, so if this is really the reason you're not voting me that's pretty stupid.

beeboy123 wrote: 6u4d5c

If he claimed doc I would have lynched him but Cop is such a busted role I kind of want to just deal with the WIFOM even if you guys can't.

You can quickly eliiminate the WIFOM by lynching.

- Magic Bomb - wrote: 5w14d

I've played 2 hours of it, I've already stated that, so if this is really the reason you're not voting me that's pretty stupid.

I must have missed that, but it's kinda important considering the whole thing started for you being neutral to the flavor claim.

Yeah, but he ALSO said that to where he has played Flowey is an evil character, while being neutral to the flavor breaking strategy.

I was neutral to the flavour claim because I didn't mind claiming flavour, even though my flavour itself was proof the game couldn't be broken by it.

Now that I've claimed, I can basically say why.

My character is not very indicitive of my role at all, which I know, the way my flavour actually describes my role is very vague (and again, makes it sound like I'm a tracker, not a cop), so there is no real issue with claiming for me, and in fact there are a few possible good points, such as scum shooting someone they think will have a certain role that doesn't. However, I wasn't entirely for it, because this could have just been my role, not other people's.

Zexion wrote: 11654m

beeboy123 wrote: 6u4d5c

If he claimed doc I would have lynched him but Cop is such a busted role I kind of want to just deal with the WIFOM even if you guys can't.

You can quickly eliiminate the WIFOM by lynching.

On other news this post is all kinds of bad.

Zexion wrote: 11654m

beeboy123 wrote: 6u4d5c

If he claimed doc I would have lynched him but Cop is such a busted role I kind of want to just deal with the WIFOM even if you guys can't.

You can quickly eliiminate the WIFOM by lynching.

I mean... we can always just lynch him tomorrow and have 0 wifom regarding his clear if he flips scum ^_^

Lynching Mbomb today over tomorrow is just horrible play and if Sakura does acknowledge that in her next post I am voting her.

doesn't*

THAT EMOTE WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE

Sakura wrote: 1q3420

On other news this post is all kinds of bad.

Huh? I thought MB claiming cop is WIFOM , which is why beeboy is hesitant to lynch him. Or did you meant something else?

beeboy123 wrote: 6u4d5c

I mean... we can always just lynch him tomorrow and have 0 wifom regarding his clear if he flips scum ^_^

Problem is that in-between now and the "future" lynch we might change our opinions and go the wrong way.

Oh, i misunderstood then.
beeboy come at me, im not buying MB's claim so im not unvoting

beeboy123 wrote: 6u4d5c

I mean... we can always just lynch him tomorrow and have 0 wifom regarding his clear if he flips scum ^_^

Agreed. If mb is town, we can possibly direct the NK onto him if scum decide Cop is more important, which is way better than lynching him today

vote: Sakura

o3o let's lynch this team.

Zexion wrote: 11654m

beeboy123 wrote: 6u4d5c

I mean... we can always just lynch him tomorrow and have 0 wifom regarding his clear if he flips scum ^_^

Problem is that in-between now and the "future" lynch we might change our opinions and go the wrong way.

But that won't happen to me o3o

You're thinking too much about the good outcome and to little at the bad one.

I still don't believe MB and beeboy is being a shitton of silly here.

I'm pretty sure after I die along with Sakura there will be no one to save this game from MB's potentially fucking this game up with his PR/fake Cop claim if he's scum and it will be gone. You may say "ok, we will lynch him tomorrow, no worries )" but you have absolutely no idea what can happen tomorrow, who can die, who can claim what and what roles can be in motion during the day/night, you can not plan a lynch ahead, it's ridiculously stupid and only complicates the game.

Seriously, voting Sakura gives me actualy scumvibes coming from you. What's your reason? I understand that MBomb's reason is because he's Mafia / OMGUS but you have literally not stated a proper reason as of yet.

You only said "lynching MB today over tomorrow is horrible" without explaining why.

Ok so let's not play around town being incompetent for a bit.


So we lynch Sakura today and she flips scum.
Then tomorrow we lynch MBomb.

Results
1. He flips town and a lynch baity person is confirmed town.
2. He flips scum and we get a scum lynch at the cost of him using a 1-shot roleblocker or busdriver at best?
3. He is scum claims a guilty on someone and we lynch him anyway.
4. He is town claims a guilty on someone we lynch bomb then the guilty.

fartownik wrote: 64d9

I'm pretty sure after I die along with Sakura

????????????????

Tsukasa go vote Sakura with me

If we're gonna be lynching Sakura (Which I'm entirely for, by the way) should we decide who I should target (preferably don't give me 1 person, multiple choice is better to avoid WIFOM being caused if I get NKed), or should I just target who I want? I'd prefer to just target who I want but if you guys would prefer a group decision, that's fine too.

beeboy123 wrote: 6u4d5c

Ok so let's not play around town being incompetent for a bit.


So we lynch Sakura today and she flips scum.
Then tomorrow we lynch MBomb.

Results
1. He flips town and a lynch baity person is confirmed town.
2. He flips scum and we get a scum lynch at the cost of him using a 1-shot roleblocker or busdriver at best?
3. He is scum claims a guilty on someone and we lynch him anyway.
4. He is town claims a guilty on someone we lynch bomb then the guilty.

why the fuck would we lynch Sakura

How many Mafia games have you played in your life, beeboy

we're not lynching Sakura today
we're not lynching MB today

Adding the fact that you didn't even answer my question from top of the page @beeboy

Frostings wrote: l110

we're not lynching Sakura today
we're not lynching MB today

The majority will decide that, not you.

Does anyone even have a solid townread on Frostings for him to boss around like this?

fartownik wrote: 64d9

Does anyone even have a solid townread on Frostings for him to boss around like this?

Only sakura

Which doesn't really say much

beeboy123 wrote: 6u4d5c

Tsukasa go vote Sakura with me

Vote sakura, sure

Vote sakura with you? Nope

Tsukasa wrote: i3p

beeboy123 wrote: 6u4d5c

Tsukasa go vote Sakura with me

Vote sakura, sure

Vote sakura with you? Nope

unvote

How about you vote Sakura first so I am voting Sakura with you ^_^

That would be lovely

Unvote
Vote: Sakura

What the hell is going on

Do you realize
That there's actually a mafia common role that's more harmful than a bus driver... it's role cop, it gives scum 2x the chance of finding PRs.

Zexion wrote: 11654m

What the hell is going on

Scum are starting a counterwagon. That's what.

Sakura wrote: 1q3420

it's role cop, it gives scum 2x the chance of finding PRs.

But he claimed just 2-shot cop, right?

Not role cop

Tsukasa wrote: i3p

Sakura wrote: 1q3420

it's role cop, it gives scum 2x the chance of finding PRs.

But he claimed just 2-shot cop, right?

Not role cop

Of course he did, do you expect scum to say the truth?

Unvote:

You know what

Gimme some time to think

beeboy123 wrote: 6u4d5c

Ok so let's not play around town being incompetent for a bit.


So we lynch Sakura today and she flips scum.
Then tomorrow we lynch MBomb.

Results
1. He flips town and a lynch baity person is confirmed town.
2. He flips scum and we get a scum lynch at the cost of him using a 1-shot roleblocker or busdriver at best?
3. He is scum claims a guilty on someone and we lynch him anyway.
4. He is town claims a guilty on someone we lynch bomb then the guilty.

I love how you're not considering me flipping town.

I feel like there's very few people actually thinking while playing this game

Sakura wrote: 1q3420

Zexion wrote: 11654m

What the hell is going on

Scum are starting a counterwagon. That's what.

Of course that's happening.

It's just like how it's happening.

There's literally no reason.

Unvote

I want to see a votecount before acting.

Tsukasa wrote: i3p

Sakura wrote: 1q3420

it's role cop, it gives scum 2x the chance of finding PRs.

But he claimed just 2-shot cop, right?

Not role cop

holy shit my sides

xD

Why is lynching scum always like pulling teeth.

Sakura today.
MB tomorrow.
EZPZ

beeboy123 wrote: 6u4d5c

Sakura today.
MB tomorrow.
EZPZ

MB today
you during the night

easier peasier

fartownik wrote: 64d9

beeboy123 wrote: 6u4d5c

Sakura today.
MB tomorrow.
EZPZ

MB today
you during the night

easier peasier

erm

fartownik wrote: 64d9

you during the night

easier peasier

ERM

So many posts, so little reading. I am at page 32

Vote tsukasa u boring people

- Magic Bomb - wrote: 5w14d

fartownik wrote: 64d9

you during the night

easier peasier

ERM

oh yes, grab onto that post like I just scumslipped

because you have nothing else to say

I'm not accusing of you of scumslipping, in fact you're one of my main townreads right now.

I'm just very confused by that post.

I was just aping that silly post of beeboy, I thought it's clear enough.

people can ask for vigs without being vig come on people.

- Magic Bomb - wrote: 5w14d

I'm not accusing of you of scumslipping, in fact you're one of my main townreads right now.

I'm just very confused by that post.

btw does that townread on me from you comes from the fact that I correctly guessed your alignment

because you haven't done any opposing when I pushed your lynch for the entirety of the day, and if you think I'm wrong you should be

if you sincerely read me as Town and you're Town you would've been more persistent about actually convincing me you're not scum

MB's mind:

The person that identified the scumslip = scum
The person that sheeped the reasoning = town.

Makes sense for a townie right guys?

Sakura wrote: 1q3420

MB's mind:

The person that identified the scumslip = scum
The person that sheeped the reasoning = town.

Makes sense for a townie right guys?

Nah, the person who twisted a post in a way it could be taken as scum = scum
the person who was stupid enough to believe them = town, but not a particularly helpful one

- Magic Bomb - wrote: 5w14d

Sakura wrote: 1q3420

MB's mind:

The person that identified the scumslip = scum
The person that sheeped the reasoning = town.

Makes sense for a townie right guys?

Nah, the person who twisted a post in a way it could be taken as scum = scum
the person who was stupid enough to believe them = town, but not a particularly helpful one

So since you're twisting my words, you're scum.
K then, keep claiming scum.

fartownik wrote: 64d9

beeboy123 wrote: 6u4d5c

Sakura today.
MB tomorrow.
EZPZ

MB today
you during the night

easier peasier

Don't you dare vig me.

beeboy123 wrote: 6u4d5c

Don't you dare vig me.

Don't you dare put Vig WIFOM on me.

We can do this all day long

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We are playing hangman and the winner gets my vote.

That's not a letter o3o

M

how many letters?

If you keep playing that game, the only thing that you're going to achieve is doubling the amount of pages this topic has produced and burying important pieces of information under piles of offtopic spam for people that are going to be replacing seaboy and Aomi.

fartownik wrote: 64d9

If you keep playing that game, the only thing that you're going to achieve is doubling the amount of pages this topic has produced and burying important pieces of information under piles of offtopic spam for people that are going to be replacing seaboy and Aomi.

Fine.... Metal Sonic gets my vote for trying to play.

"Tsukasa is a lamer" was the phrase.

Not like I don't want you to have fun, but that is not appropriate. What would be fun is finally lynching someone and move this game forward because I hate slow mafia games more than anything, especially when I've already stated everything I had to state for today, voted for who I wanted to vote and I had a good idea who the Mafia are.

Well there was a quicksand tell not too long ago and idk how just now i noticed.

Sakura wrote: 1q3420

Well there was a quicksand tell not too long ago and idk how just now i noticed.

A wut now?

I just don't see why we have to lynch mbomb today >_>

I know scum has no reason to not claim cop or something op op.
But like ehhhh.

3-7 we pretty much lost if we mislynch a cop today.

beeboy123 wrote: 6u4d5c

I just don't see why we have to lynch mbomb today >_>

because he's Mafia

beeboy123 wrote: 6u4d5c

3-7 we pretty much lost if we mislynch a cop today.

holy shit, so if he were a VT we wouldn't be in a 3-7 situation tomorrow and we wouldn't have lost?

beeboy123 wrote: 6u4d5c

Sakura wrote: 1q3420

Well there was a quicksand tell not too long ago and idk how just now i noticed.

A wut now?

Quicksand tell when the ground moves below your feet.

Unvote
Vote: Ace Timing

Who can tell me why i'm voting Ace Timing.
Hint: Look at his ISO.

Ace Timing wrote: 36512t

beeboy123 wrote: 6u4d5c

._. I have serious objections about his lynch on day 1.

I mean if he were actually something like a 2-shot bus driver that would fucking suck more than a 2-shot cop would be awesome. Even if he survived just one night, 1 clear is not worth 1 bus drive or 1 rolestop/roleblock. Everyone's shit would have been fucked up because we thought it would be worth one conf town. I'm also like 70% sure even if he doesn't get lynched today, he'll be vigged tonight.

Is it this post, Sakura?

Sakura wrote: 1q3420

Who can tell me why i'm voting Ace Timing.
Hint: Look at his ISO.

he has a stupid avatar?

besides that, he hasn't done jack shit this game besides random almost offtopic posting and role speculation, if that's why you're voting him

If it's not either that or him being the first to respond to the hangman thing (which tbh doesn't seem that scummy to me), then I have no idea.

fartownik wrote: 64d9

Sakura wrote: 1q3420

Who can tell me why i'm voting Ace Timing.
Hint: Look at his ISO.

he has a stupid avatar?

besides that, he hasn't done jack shit this game besides random almost offtopic posting and role speculation, if that's why you're voting him

He sheeps me onto MB, unvotes when MB claims, and when we suspect the claim he conveniently also questions it and votes again.

I don't think he'd be so stupid/obvious to do that as scum, seriously.

Although one game I playing with him where he was scum he was playing similarily, so maybe there's some merit to that. I don't know, I'd still rather roast an MB today.

fartownik wrote: 64d9

I don't think he'd be so stupid/obvious to do that as scum, seriously.

Rly?

I was basically ISOing the quicksand players and the only one that hasnt posted since the claim is NH. Ace's play looked weird to me, like he just goes with whatever instead of analyzing stuff himself.

I would help you but metal sonic is in possession of my vote :/

Sakura wrote: 1q3420

fartownik wrote: 64d9

he has a stupid avatar?

besides that, he hasn't done jack shit this game besides random almost offtopic posting and role speculation, if that's why you're voting him

He sheeps me onto MB, unvotes when MB claims, and when we suspect the claim he conveniently also questions it and votes again.

don't sheeping you fam. I can think for myself and question my own actions. My instinct was to unvote but after looking at what lead up to the claim and the claim itself, I determined that it was untrue, and so I voted back. The only thing I sheeped was the idea that even if it was true it was not worth to leave it alive. If anything I've been sheeping farto, but not you.

fartownik wrote: 64d9

Sakura wrote: 1q3420

Who can tell me why i'm voting Ace Timing.
Hint: Look at his ISO.

he has a stupid avatar?

besides that, he hasn't done jack shit this game besides random almost offtopic posting and role speculation, if that's why you're voting him

Town

beeboy123 wrote: 6u4d5c

I would help you but metal sonic is in possession of my vote :/

Ok let's help one another

vote: ace timing
Permission granted

What is this quicksand tell

Is it one of those newfangled thingmajigs

Let's give it a better name

Let's call it the suwako tell

vote: Ace

@mod Seaboy is replacing out for IRL reasons and won't be able to access the site :/. You can go through standard prodding and wait 24 hours but I would never lie about something like this.

Ace Timing wrote: 36512t

Vote: MB

L-1

After the claim:

Ace Timing wrote: 36512t

unvote

After me, farto and idk who else questions the claim:

Ace Timing wrote: 36512t

- Magic Bomb - wrote: 5w14d

I'm assuming his point is: I'm heavily scumreading Sakura.
If I target her, I either scan my biggest scumread as innocent, which basically proves her town, or I scan her as scum, where she gets lynched, and if she flipped town, it would be obvious I was lying.
Ofc, neither of these would clear me entirely, but both are pretty good for town in of clearing/revealing sakura.

but if you're scum you already know who's town so you can still call her town tomorrow and when you're lynched eventually we'll all be kicking ourselves over what to think about your claims.

are two clears worth two days of scum WIFOM?

Followed by:

Ace Timing wrote: 36512t

fuck I keep doing this

Vote: MB

The thing that bothers me is unvoting after hearing the claim "Since it's the towny thing to do" then when the claim comes into question, he sees the possibility of a mislynch on a claimed town cop. Am i wrong?