Sirade wrote: 443f1

Column from 1 to 7, left to right respectively.

7K Rebirth
00:52:145 - Maybe add another note to represent either clap or click sound.
different. no to this, this will break the consistency
00:56:058 - Same as above.
ok for this
01:03:884 (63884|2,63884|6,63884|4,63884|3,63884|0,64047|1,64047|5,64129|2,64129|4,64211|6,64211|0,64374|1,64374|5,64455|4,64455|2,64537|6,64537|0,64700|2,64700|4) - I think pattern like this are bit to much, try make more variety patterns also make it more interesting (obviously no hold notes), these patterns are found alot in the first kiai section
i did that on purpose, for consistency. pattern chaanged a bit for variety. i consulted this with expew and he doesn't find any issues with it so i'll keep the note count.



So... The general of this is just adding a note on the clap sound, some of it aren't add for that sound.
i did that on purpose. i don't use clap for the whole section. only at the beginning i use clap to express that tack tack sound.


The rest are fine, I see no problem there for me. >.>

I seriously don't know what to mod anymore.
And making the mod long is a bit uncomfortable so I tried to mod only important stuffs. ' -'
So.. Um... Thats all.

Good luck for rank.

schwarzvgrune wrote: 4t4w11

不是說不注重pattern吧， 就是pattern和PR。 這方面我問了expew他說我的圖沒有巨大的問題。 我有其他的圖， 不太跟著PR。 跟著pattern。但這是為了那幅圖是BMS典。並不是這種歌曲~

edit：如果你要諷刺就直接說吧。 不必那樣寫。 我使用錯字。算不是不重要，但是pattern和PR是一起考慮。 手感這個沒有特別接物镜的標準。 為何我讓一些人打的他們都覺得沒有問題呢？
我問了ExPew，KuoKyoka等。 如果我回復的語氣不好那我就對不起你， 我的中文不夠好， 所以會被別人誤會。下次我就是用英語回復你吧。
但是從你的摸摸我已經接受了很多。 謝謝你的幫助咯 o(≧v≦)o~~

paperlens wrote: 104m6h

诶.....? 你误会了吧……
只是因为我在我的图被mod的时候经常会有人提出很多更注重抓音的意见，之前问spy的时候他也说他更注重抓音……就是因为很多我觉得有问题的地方别人觉得没问题，我觉得没问题的地方大家都觉得有问题，所以随便说一句而已。。
完全没有讽刺什么的 请千万不要误解，另外我也没有误会你，我看你的中文的时候也没有感到不适
顺便说一句我今天下午会试着摸一摸Insane

schwarzvgrune wrote: 4t4w11

是嗎 QAQ 那我就很抱歉啊。。 翻譯過來感覺是個含諷刺的句子o(>﹏<)o

1. 00:33:069 (33069|3,33151|2,33232|1) - 建议摆到123或者234，更符合pitch，也避免00:32:580 (32580|2,33151|2) - ；前后的几个小note可以看情况动一动
   
2. 00:36:982 (36982|2,37064|1,37145|0) - 也是建议摆到123，这里的pitch也是上升的感觉 00:37:308 (37308|2) - 挪到1
   
3. 00:55:080 (55080|5,55080|1,55080|0,55134|4,55189|3) - 这里有点难受，左手的空格键这里按起来有点难，
   我的话是00:55:080 (55080|1) - 挪到6，00:55:080 (55080|5,55134|4,55189|3) - 向左挪一格，00:55:406 (55406|2,55569|3) - Ctrl+H
   这里我只是觉得这样会舒服一些，如果会打破你的pattern规则的话就无视就好-w-
   
4. 01:06:004 (66004|4,66086|5,66167|6,66330|6) - 建议Ctrl+H后的样式再挪到最右边

paperlens wrote: 104m6h

schwarzvgrune wrote: 4t4w11

是嗎 QAQ 那我就很抱歉啊。。 翻譯過來感覺是個含諷刺的句子o(>﹏<)o

话说咕咕姐你的母语不是汉语嘛= = 我也翻译了一下英文发现确实是讽刺。。
下面是7k Insane的mod 依旧基本都是偏向手感（顺便尽量符合一下pitch），挑你喜欢的接受吧-w-

1. 00:33:069 (33069|3,33151|2,33232|1) - 建议摆到123或者234，更符合pitch，也避免00:32:580 (32580|2,33151|2) - ；前后的几个小note可以看情况动一动
   
2. 00:36:982 (36982|2,37064|1,37145|0) - 也是建议摆到123，这里的pitch也是上升的感觉 00:37:308 (37308|2) - 挪到1
   
3. 00:55:080 (55080|5,55080|1,55080|0,55134|4,55189|3) - 这里有点难受，左手的空格键这里按起来有点难，
   我的话是00:55:080 (55080|1) - 挪到6，00:55:080 (55080|5,55134|4,55189|3) - 向左挪一格，00:55:406 (55406|2,55569|3) - Ctrl+H
   这里我只是觉得这样会舒服一些，如果会打破你的pattern规则的话就无视就好-w-
   
4. 01:06:004 (66004|4,66086|5,66167|6,66330|6) - 建议Ctrl+H后的样式再挪到最右边

Insane要摸的不多 就这些啦

_FrEsH_ChICkEn_ wrote: 3f2762

ReRequest here XD
|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|
No kudosu. That's will be Denied :p
Check your AI. Do you try re it?

ｔｈａｔｓ　ａ　ｂｕｇ. the file is complete
[7K Rebirth]

00:02:315 - I can't understand Why This part have 2 notes XD
because 1 for bg guitar 1 for pitch. rearranged though.

00:07:471 - and 00:07:797 - Here. Have more powerful sound
00:09:428 - and 00:09:754 - ^
do i need to use 3 notes?

00:19:863 - imo. Doesn't need 3 LNs.
well, main instrument + melody.. i think i'll keep it

00:27:363 - Add one for pitch
ok


00:31:602 (31602|4) - I can't understand this ;_;
BG echo... it still exist until that part


00:34:211 - How about this? https://osu-ppy-sh.jeuxcrack.net/ss/3142520
ok


00:36:004 - LN will be here. That's good remove one NM note. and add LN and finish that 00:36:167 -
no. if i add LN i need to add acrross the whole phase which means there will be many 2/4 LNs

00:42:037 (42037|4) - Move to 4
ok

00:51:004 - Have less sound. add 2...? maybe?

emphasis on phase change, so i'd like to keep it
Great Beatmap!!
Please tell me when you need help

[GraveChaos] wrote: 2x5w3k

Go for rank!! Good luck! >w<)b

Your map has now

Illum//slapped

dosyeru wrote: 4ts6e

sry for late, mods the following are just what i noticed
some are seemingly errors to me but you can feel free to take or ignore them.
col 1 2 3 4 5 6 7

[Pharos' 7k Easy]
Wouldnt it better if "k" in diff name was capitalized?

[Pharos' 7K Normal]
00:03:069 (3069|4) - add F6W_ss.wav?
00:27:689 (27689|3) - remove E6W_ss.wav? it sounds off to me.
00:33:558 (33558|2,33558|6) - both notes have the same key-sounds. is it intended?
00:55:080 (55080|3,55080|2) - ^
01:00:950 (60950|3,60950|0) - ^
01:02:906 (62906|0,62906|4) - ^
01:04:863 (64863|0,64863|3) - ^
I think you can replace one synth sounds with LR kick normal sounds.
01:12:689 (72689|0,72689|3) - ^

[Pharos' 7K Hard]
you dont use lr kick normal wave in this diff? I see what you do for key-sounds in this diff, but I would love the diff if kick and snare sounds are placed in where possible.
00:28:667 (28667|3,28667|2,28667|1) - remove key-sounds? These keysounds sound to change melody, and it feels really strange if player knows the melody already imo.
00:29:645 (29645|2,29645|6,29645|3) - same as Normal, I think it is better to put any percussive sounds instead.

[7K Insane]
nothing

[7K Rebirth]
00:11:058 (11058|0) - add a note on 4? this point should have 5 notes like 00:09:102 (9102|6) -
00:59:971 (59971|4) - ^
01:05:841 (65841|1) - ^ add on 1 if you like?

GL

Marirose wrote: 3x3u3l

:) mod as private req

4K E

00:37:471 (37471|2,37798|1,38124|3) - 长音，改成LN看看？
00:56:058 (56058|0,56384|1,56711|3) - 对应上面的，要改都改

以上，不错的diff

4K N

00:03:558 (3558|0,3558|2,4211|0,4211|2) - 他们不是同音，考虑下00:04:211 (4211|2,4211|0,4700|3,4700|1) - 把两个LN放在2,4
00:51:167 (51167|1) - 放在1，和00:50:841 (50841|0) - 保持一致，然后把00:51:493 (51493|1,51819|2) - 一致
01:00:787 (60787|3) - 和01:00:461 (60461|3) - 不同音，放在3吧
01:02:580 (62580|3) - 同上
01:04:700 (64700|3) - 同上

不错

上面都改好

4K H

00:17:906 (17906|1) - 开对比模式与N难度进行对比有惊喜
00:22:798 (22798|2) - 我觉得你不用刻意的去进行LN的长音控制，放在00:23:450 - 结束也没什么不妥当，其他的你也斟酌下
這個我覺得應該沒關係，因為是HD。。。 而且這些長音是對的。。。應該。。。

00:59:482 - 这个地方你确定不用双note？
是的， 要步入跟insane會很像。。。 但是我就加了吧， 我覺得更適合用雙音

01:01:439 - 01:03:395 - 01:05:352 - 同上
01:14:645 (74645|2) - 这里的LN代表着chord的第一个音，那么作为对称，01:14:645 (74645|2) - 这里也应该有一个LN
哪的？ 同樣的地方啊 ;w;

没了

4K I

00:30:950 (30950|2,31113|0,31276|3) - 我觉得这三个音不太明显的LN还是用note比较好
恩恩是的，改了
01:06:330 (66330|1,66330|3,66493|2,66493|0,66656|3,66656|1) - 这里的排列稍微改下，避免col4的过多使用
改了一些


没了

抓音很清楚，加油
图不错，但是我只能说这样的曲子真的。。不太适合作mania图，选曲问题吧 D:
我是故意想要做這首歌的罵娘圖。。。。我知道不太適合所以就不能做很難得難度嘛。。。insane就最難了， 我還做其他的， 卡農。。 也更這個很像的。你可以試試看吧>w<b

Marirose wrote: 3x3u3l

now icon
GL~

Pharos21 wrote: 4a595l

wait a sec. grune.... 4K mapset right? not deleting the "4K" from the diff name?

1. 00:27:689 - ~00:30:624 - 這裡太過密集,跟muzu有點相似,建議減少一點note
2. 00:31:602 - ~00:43:341 - 從oni來看這一段應該要比下一段的密度在高一點點

1. 00:21:167 (64,65) - reverse? would be more fit the song
2. 00:12:689 (44,45,46,47,48) - how e d k d k d ? it is more fit the instrument's pitch
3. 00:26:384 (77) - change to k , to follow the instrument's pitch
4. 00:31:928 (96,97) - these two notes could be removed to make 2/1 break
5. 00:35:841 (112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122) - try this would make the flow much better
6. 00:49:537 (166,167) - remove and change 00:49:863 (168) - to k to make the gap more close with futsuu
7. 00:55:406 (187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195) - try this would more fit the song
8. 00:58:993 (202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211) - 1/4 pattern is not really fit the song imo, try this
9. 01:04:047 (225) - remove, to make consistency with former part

qoot8123 wrote: j533u

[ Nardo's Futsuu]

Notes

1. 00:27:689 - ~00:30:624 - 這裡太過密集,跟muzu有點相似,建議減少一點note deleted the notes at 00:28:993 and 00:29:319 -
2. 00:31:602 - ~00:43:341 - 從oni來看這一段應該要比下一段的密度在高一點點 Increased the note density a bit to make a better spread with Muzukashii.

oni and kantan are fine, call me back then.

qoot8123 wrote: j533u

[ Ikin's Muzukashii]

Notes

1. 00:21:167 (64,65) - reverse? would be more fit the song disagree, the pitch goes up on the second note and i feel this creates contrast
2. 00:12:689 (44,45,46,47,48) - how e d k d k d ? it is more fit the instrument's pitch changed
3. 00:26:384 (77) - change to k , to follow the instrument's pitch changed
4. 00:31:928 (96,97) - these two notes could be removed to make 2/1 break agreed, removed
5. 00:35:841 (112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122) - try this would make the flow much better changed
6. 00:49:537 (166,167) - remove and change 00:49:863 (168) - to k to make the gap more close with futsuu okay done, although its a gd from different mapper so it isnt 100%? nessecary
7. 00:55:406 (187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195) - try this would more fit the song changed
8. 00:58:993 (202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211) - 1/4 pattern is not really fit the song imo, try this fair point
9. 01:04:047 (225) - remove, to make consistency with former part

done

oni and kantan are fine, call me back then.

qoot8123 wrote: j533u

rebubbled!

PatZar wrote: 3j3n25

wow ikin so pro :O

Julie wrote: 1i6i17

qoot won't be here to re-bubble, but don't need to re-bubble, since that pop was an irc with me for the hitsound consistency (note and volume) and snapping (creator consulted qat) :3

Will post mod soon, hopefully I get this done before I zzZ~ :3

EDIT :

Mania mods

[General]

For hard and insane, is better if you still continue the piano and add those keysound at 40% volume from here 01:14:645 - to 01:20:515 - , like in normal. Since you did it here 01:06:819 - to 01:13:667 - . I don't know why you suddendly stop that piano, if your lacking of note to put hitsound on, put them as storyboard (sample) hitsound, so we can at least hear the same thing in those difficulty and normal.
this is left intentionally, i wanted to emphasise the beat pattern on hard and insane. i believe this is not an unrankable issue thus this will not change

i made it so we can hear different sound on different difficulty on purpose


Hmm make a OD&HP spread for Normal and Easy please XD.

easy OD changed to 6.5 lest this is an unrankable issue, the other shall not be changed. i utilised a lot of LNs so this is reasonable imo

[Easy]

00:31:276 (31276|0,31602|0) - Don't jack this, your jack so far are for the same flute pitch, which is really easy for beginner to understand the pattern easily. But here is not the case, I also probably suggest you to remove this note 00:31:276 (31276|0) - , since it follow this 00:30:950 - and this 00:31:113 - sound, which you aren't mapping it.
i revamped the pattern a bit, i'd like to keep that, and no. i'm not following that sound. this is an additional note that follows the beat pitch. that sound is at E7, not E6. lest this is an unrankable issue, this shall stay as it is.


*UNRANKABLE*
01:05:841 (65841|3) - Oi OI WHAT IS THIS LOLOLOL LR_Kick_Normal.wav. Probably forgot to remove haha.
removed and changed to the original finish custom hitsound. i forgot to delete that

[Normal]

00:42:689 (42689|3) - Remove this hitsound, not flute. Don't need to remove note for the same drum feeling as 00:42:363 - , just the hitsound, since you're creating new sound that aren't in the song XD.
this is also on purpose, i have 3 sections on the song where i put additional sound. this is intentional, and lest this is an unrankable issue, these shall all not be changed, on all diffs.


01:21:493 (81493|0) - Turn this to LN, since you did the same number of chord as Hard and Insane. Flute really louder here, should be fine. Usually people put one LN and 2 LN on harder difficulty for the ending, because they have less notes to press xD.
sure added

[Hard]

00:30:950 - and 00:31:113 - add those keysound like in Normal and Insane 40% volume, since this sound 00:31:276 - basically follow the 2 before.
this is left on purpose because i'm trying to emphasise the beat instead, lest this is an unrankable issue, this shall not change

00:41:955 (41955|0) - same reason as Insane.
not changed, to differentiate and give emphasis that i follow all sound that i think is audible enough and clearly distinguishable before the phase ends. lest this is unrankable, this shall also stay

00:42:689 (42689|3) - Remove this hitsound, not flute. Don't need to remove note for the same drum feeling as 00:42:363 - , just the hitsound, since you're creating new sound that aren't in the song XD.
shall also stays. same reason as previous diff.

00:43:341 - Forgot that drum finish hitsound. boom boom __ boom~ lololol
revamped a bit on that phase, following insane except the 1section where the finish is not added in hard for emphasis purpose.

00:51:819 (51819|1,51819|0,51819|3,52145|0,52145|1,52145|3,52471|3,52471|0,52471|1) - Ok, now is too much same pattern/column, the pitch is really too different here. (You probably know that, judging from your hitsound, but while playing, can't really feel it) XD
revamped a bit.

[Insane]

00:05:026 - 2 notes is overchord here. Is not as loud as these 00:04:700 - and 00:04:863 - . It should be 1 note like this part 00:06:004 - . That drum sound, really nearly not audible, so one note should be fine, instead of repeating 2 notes here.
00:08:939 - ^
this shall not be changed for the following reasons. (and your rationale above is correct, and i agree with that)
this is insane, so mapping all sounds that are audible is reasonable, since i can tell the difference clearly as well.
it is true that "Is not as loud as these 00:04:700 - and 00:04:863" however i'd still like to keep it for pattern purpose with explanations below
it is true that those 2 sounds have the same strength with this 1 00:06:004 (6004|2) - , however if i put 2 there as well it will give an uneccessary jack.
those 2 notes fits well with the song, and pattern is also great, no reason to to remove it just for the sake of differentiating the beat.
and also, i believe i have given the emphasis that i want to express with the current arrangement. thus, lest' this is an unrankable issue, they shall all not be changed.

changed after 'private' IRC chat with Julie. accepted now


00:32:254 (32254|1,32254|0,32254|3,32580|0,32580|3,32580|1) - Why are these in the same column while the chord are clearly different. Probably because you didn't want to jack these note 00:32:091 (32091|2,32417|2) - , but these 2 note are matching different instrument as well xD. Mostly here the main instrument is the flute, unlike this part 00:33:884 - to 00:35:189 - .
fair enough, revamped, jacked on 2 and 3, which is still reasonable imo.


00:36:656 (36656|3) - add D7W_s and change 00:36:602 (36602|2) - to D7W_s. Can hear 4 note from that instrument here, the last 2 are the same chord.
the arrangement is correct, it won't be changed. the reason why it seems of is because of the actual snapping. i put it at 1/6 for simplification. the actual snap for the 3rd d7w_s should be 1/8 or 1/12. this also, shall not be changed lest this is unrankable


00:37:798 (37798|0,37798|1,37798|3,37961|2,38124|0,38124|3,38124|1,38287|2,38450|3,38450|1,38450|0) - Reason is like 00:37:798
revamped

(37798|0,37798|1,37798|3,37961|2,38124|0,38124|3,38124|1,38287|2,38450|3,38450|1,38450|0) - , the main instrument here is really easy to hear that it isn't the same pitch everytimes. So playing the same pattern here won't really help you feel the song. While in lower level you can feel it more, mostly the different of pitch from 00:37:798 - to 00:38:124 - to 00:38:450 - is quite big XD.
revamped


00:38:613 (38613|0) - Same reason as 00:36:656 (36656|3) - , add C7W_s, there is a guitar string there, but the main flute is still loud xD, can still here is a 4 notes.
same as above. and i don't map that guitar pitch with keysound. or else i'll need to keysound every 2/4 note across almost the whole middle phase.


00:40:406 (40406|2,40406|0,40406|3) - hey hey c'mon grune :3! 00:39:754 (39754|2,39754|0,39754|3,39917|1,40080|3,40080|0,40080|2,40243|1) - = AWESOME REPEAT, but this one 00:40:406 - being the same while pitch is totally different @.@. Again, lower diff seem to match the song better then insane.
because of the limitation on the space. i was afraid of jacking, but i revamped everything about this part

00:41:955 - delete there no new sound like the other triplet you did (example 00:40:977 - ) The sound here is an ending of this sound 00:41:874 - , which might be the reason why you added a note here, it sound like 2 sound @.@. Is the same as this part 00:42:281 - which you didn't map.
there is that triplet. it will stay just like HD

00:42:689 (42689|1) - Remove this hitsound, not flute. Don't need to remove note for the same drum feeling as 00:42:363 - , just the hitsound, since you're creating new sound that aren't in the song XD.
on purpose, just like my explanation on HD. lest this is unrankable, all of these shall stay


00:59:808 (59808|2,59808|3) - and 01:03:721 (63721|2,63721|3) - and 01:05:678 (65678|1) - same reason as 00:05:026 - .
same reason as above


01:07:634 (67634|0) - Add whistle since you added here 01:12:526 - , same sound. Between, I really suggest you keep your whistle consistent same for hard.
this is left on purpose because i wanted to expand the hitsound pattern, that there, is the same wiht 01:09:591 (69591|3,69754|2,69754|0,69754|1) -
where i did not add whistle


01:13:504 - Keep it one note like the other part that have the same sound, don't overchord it. Or if is because you hear the flute sound with the drum like I do, you should add the hitsound for it, is the same as previous one, SVF_B5ss.wav, instead of 2 normal note, which doesn't suit the drum.
change to 1 note, i add that originally for patterning.

01:17:091 - and 01:19:048 - add whistle like in hard. And also if is possible for the whistle consistent like this note 01:17:417 (77417|1) - (example)

hitsound from here, until the end, shall not be changed. i believe i made no mistake. they are differentiated between difficulty on purpose for emphasis.
whistle pattern is also different between hard and insane, which are all intentional. lest this is an unrankable issue, this shall not be changed

General issue :

Also can you check this box http://puu.sh/j0VsM.png as well for the taiko level. Since the storyboard also appear in the taiko difficulty.

Delete this http://puu.sh/j0WgQ.png .osb, it seem like this is your old one with wrong metadata, when we re- it, we stilll see it, so is probably still in your folder when you update.

I'm am not really experience with SB, but seem like this file atelieriris_sc001_vf1.jpg is unuse , if is use please show me where is use, I might be in the wrong, because this is my 1st time spotting SB issue.

Remove Pharos21 from tags, since the 7k have been remove, the credit shouldn't be in tags.

Taiko set look fine~

Julie wrote: 1i6i17

thanks YOU CHERRY BLOSSOM FOR HELPING ME GET THIS QUALIFY

Julie wrote: 1i6i17

Oki hitsound consistency have been well explained by creator.

Storyboard all file use, there one error detect by AImods, and it is confirm that AImods is drunk, so not an unrankable issue :3! That file can be seen in the SB and in the file when re.

Congratz s-s-s-schwazzy

*runs*

Also congratz for the taiko GDer, Ikin and Nardo. Nardo on a row! 3 taiko in a row, 4 this week! LOL

YES AFTER 500 TIMES + OF CLICKING QUALIFY!! OMFG!!! OMFG!!!

thanks YOU CHERRY BLOSSOM FOR HELPING ME GET THIS QUALIFY

Cherry Blossom wrote: 235p

Julie wrote: 1i6i17

thanks YOU CHERRY BLOSSOM FOR HELPING ME GET THIS QUALIFY

♥

O2MasterFX wrote: 30221v

Congratz!

Although I'll be missing with the old 7k diff. :3

Kuo Kyoka wrote: 3t6e4y

ehhh why you not add Pharos21 on tag as a Storyboarder?

aww don't mind! Congratulations

-Silver King- wrote: qwa

I just notice somehing...
You have 2 map just rank.. gratz
both in the same game...
but why the source one of them is kanji and the other one is romaji?

schwarzvgrune wrote: 4t4w11

-Silver King- wrote: qwa

I just notice somehing...
You have 2 map just rank.. gratz
both in the same game...
but why the source one of them is kanji and the other one is romaji?

because of the metadata proof that are available. they have both the japanese ver and english ver. because the metadata should be checked in a nazi way (not accepting unofficial website such as rpgfan or other website that gives information about rpg bgm) i have no choice but to follow the source that are available.
for atelier iris 3 i can only find the jap one on the website. for atelier iris 2 i can proof the english ver as written on the metadata posts somewhere in this thread.

and seeing your fishy profile it is safe for me to assume that you're a small that is held by someone who is actually highly ranked here (original ). i suggest you to watch out to avoid being banned for this reason.

-Silver King- wrote: qwa

ive in osu for 10 month... dont judge by yourself