OsuMe65 wrote: 4d3mn

quite long thread. good Explanation but sorry. you have to rework this one and make it an original...

depeds on you, though :3
anyway, for starters... it's Good

Of course. I told Kamui that most of this would be place holder. The reason it is releasing so soon is so I can get the colors correct before i put too much design thought into it. Want to knock out the main important stuff first. I'm not color blind but I am interested in how it will effect those people. So that will be the main time consumer. I hope that once this is finished that it will appeal to you.

I don't mind ing a video for you. It looks pretty decent, can't wait once it's fully released

mekadon wrote: d237

I don't mind ing a video for you. It looks pretty decent, can't wait once it's fully released

I would be more than happy if you would.

It's a VERY interesting concept, really. I would love it if you make an original skin following the patterns explained in first post.

Martinawa Hatsuhi wrote: d5u4w

It's a VERY interesting concept, really. I would love it if you make an original skin following the patterns explained in first post.

It is going to take quite some time, but that is the goal.

I don't mean to be a nit pick, Uruoki, but essentially all wavelengths in the visible spectrum travel a the same speed. They only change speed when traveling through a medium, i.e. a glass prism, the atmosphere etc..

But yea, that's nothing major. Just saying :3

I really like this idea, but, I'm pretty pessimistic about this.
Working out the science of the colours, applying them and then making them UI friendly will certainly take a lot of effort.

Best of luck, I hope this doesn't die! D:

TheBetterRed wrote: cp2d

I don't mean to be a nit pick, Uruoki, but essentially all wavelengths in the visible spectrum travel a the same speed. They only change speed when traveling through a medium, i.e. a glass prism, the atmosphere etc..

But yea, that's nothing major. Just saying :3

I really like this idea, but, I'm pretty pessimistic about this.
Working out the science of the colours, applying them and then making them UI friendly will certainly take a lot of effort.

Best of luck, I hope this doesn't die! D:

The more information the better. I'm not scientist, but I do know that the color red is used a lot for night time shifts in a lot of working positions. So there is something about red that makes it work best for dark environments. I believe the speed I mention was about the switching from using cone cell and rod cell. I believe the wavelength is a measurement of how much energy is needed to produce the color, and not actually tied into the speed it is being produced at. If you think of this in of music, a bass note has a slower wavelength than a higher frequency note. The color red also has a slow wavelength.



Wavelengths are usually measured in hz (hertz). Hertz is a measurement of cycles per second. So a bass note and the color red uses the least cycles which allows for longer listening or viewing without the becoming ill.

I believe the speed concept was brought up about how something with more energy is usually traveling faster. The baseball and the balloon. Another reason why I think speed got brought up in the original post, was because of the cone and rod cell. If the rod cell has less light to produce. Our eyes should, in theory, switch to the cone cell more quickly.

The main goal for this skin is to be the most suitable in dark environments.

If you have anymore information, please share. I am always up for learning more about how things function.

Now thinking about it, I think I understand what you mean. The colour red, along with other lower frequency EMR have a big wavelength. Respectively they also have a low frequency. Frequency can be defined (as you have mentioned) as the number of cycles per second, and it is measured in hertz. However, having a low frequency doesn't mean that the wave is travelling any slower than, for example gamma ray. The cycle is the region from one peak to another. Also , wavelength is measured in meters.

As for the cell related stuff, I honestly don't know much about it. I'll need to do my homework on it ;D

Yeah Science bitch!

<3 this skin. xD

TheBetterRed wrote: cp2d

Now thinking about it, I think I understand what you mean. The colour red, along with other lower frequency EMR have a big wavelength. Respectively they also have a low frequency. Frequency can be defined (as you have mentioned) as the number of cycles per second, and it is measured in hertz. However, having a low frequency doesn't mean that the wave is travelling any slower than, for example gamma ray. The cycle is the region from one peak to another. Also , wavelength is measured in meters.

As for the cell related stuff, I honestly don't know much about it. I'll need to do my homework on it ;D

Right. You seem to be understanding it like I am. The lower frequency just run at a lower cycle and uses less energy. The speed of processing may be the same as high frequency though.

Fr33z3R wrote: 6w5243

Yeah Science bitch!

<3 this skin. xD

Glad you like it. If you have any comments or concerns about the skin, please let me know.




Edit: New version released. Nothing huge.

All red!~

I seriously <3 this skin. Made HD mod much easier for me at least
I have been trying out some skin and this one suit me the best (Before this I was using Kamui's skin lol)

[AngelLinker ] wrote: 4o511j

All red!~

I'll work on making the colors more varied. Unless you meant that in a positive fashion.

Setsuen wrote: 58374i

I seriously <3 this skin. Made HD mod much easier for me at least
I have been trying out some skin and this one suit me the best (Before this I was using Kamui's skin lol)

Glad you like it. It is going to be heavy modded off of Kamui's, so you should be able to transition rather easy.


Edit: I added some reading materials to the main post if anyone was interested about this topic and wanted to look more into it for themselves.

I love you. The style of this skin is so unique and futuristic, and not to mention easy on the eyes. The sharingan can get my eyes tired quite quickly (profile pic joke lol), but this skin works wonders especially for my late night sessions. Thanks again, and keep up the good work

I Just have to say I love totally the skin

Good Job!

could u make a zip file instead of an osk.file? does not work for me

iamdarren wrote: l5q1q

could u make a zip file instead of an osk.file? does not work for me

Not a problem.

DL: http://puu.sh/5xS2E.zip

[AngelLinker ] wrote: 4o511j

All red!~

I like the way you think.

We should be friends.

For ever, and ever~

this is such a niceskin!! though i have to ask, why is there no indication that you have got a 300 or a 300!?

-Tyltalis wrote: 5y1r2r

this is such a niceskin!! though i have to ask, why is there no indication that you have got a 300 or a 300!?

If you hit 50, 100, or miss, then you should know if you got a 300. However I should add that since it is a public released skin. Thanks for the notice.

For some reason the spinner doesn't show up when I play. I keep seeing the default spinner.

Frazee wrote: 6op5p

For some reason the spinner doesn't show up when I play. I keep seeing the default spinner.

I believe I messed up the osk file. I am going to release a new version in a bit to change some of the menus to English. So give me just a few minutes, and if the new one doesn't work let me know. We'll figure something out.


Edit: 11.30.13 update is out.

Uruoki wrote: 33354t

Frazee wrote: 6op5p

For some reason the spinner doesn't show up when I play. I keep seeing the default spinner.

I believe I messed up the osk file. I am going to release a new version in a bit to change some of the menus to English. So give me just a few minutes, and if the new one doesn't work let me know. We'll figure something out.


Edit: 11.30.13 update is out.

I tried using the new version and I'm still seeing the old default spinner.

Fixed it. All I had to do was disable "prefer new default skin behaviour."

Lovin this skin!

Updated to save size and reduce elements that were too intense.

12.1.13

Uruoki wrote: 33354t

Updated to save size and reduce elements that were too intense.

12.1.13

The new DL link isn't working.

Frazee wrote: 6op5p

Uruoki wrote: 33354t

Updated to save size and reduce elements that were too intense.

12.1.13

The new DL link isn't working.

Weird, it was. Give me a few minutes to re it.

Should be working now. Thanks for the notice.

Uhhh.... I'm sorry. But it looks like the link for the new version still doesn't work (for both osk and zip file)

Fadhilkwan wrote: 5p5r4a

Uhhh.... I'm sorry. But it looks like the link for the new version still doesn't work (for both osk and zip file)

Not sure what is going on. I won't be home till another 4 hours. Once I get home I will re to another site. Sorry for the trouble.

Cool concept! I'm going to try it asap

Links should be fixed now. Sorry for the inconvenience.

wow, creating skin using sciense *_*

I just realize usiing all-white skin take more energy D: Thanks for the info

ed few videos, also change your previews since that's the old version of it. Overall, I really enjoyed the colour scheme and everything of it.
The spinners are nice, but however it's not that "hidden mode" friendly, at least for me (I'm not sure how to put this in words though)


Videos, going to record few more after I finish my work, since this one is pretty choppy

Overall good job 9/10 if it weren't for the mode select not being skinned and other game modes like Taiko. Some Shinobu is fine too

To be honest, I didn't even think about making then mod friendly. I'll look into that when I get home tonight. Will also update screenshots. Thanks for taking the time to do the video.

that is a very nice skin Uruoki

mekadon wrote: d237

The spinners are nice, but however it's not that "hidden mode" friendly, at least for me (I'm not sure how to put this in words though)

Could you try to explain this part? I am not seeing the issue. Is the problem not being able to see the meter to show are close you are to clearing the spinner? If it is, then try the other meter in the extra folder. That should be a temporary fix until I can think of a design for the meter.

-valar- wrote: 2e4y42

that is a very nice skin Uruoki

Thanks.

awesome skin, but my eyes hurts after 2-3hours playing with it :c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6WpXq3_fvk

Simon wrote: 4a341z

awesome skin, but my eyes hurts after 2-3hours playing with it :c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6WpXq3_fvk

Any suggestions on how to reduce that? You really shouldn't be playing for that long without a break, but I know people still do.


Edit: New update added.

Bumping this amazing skin.
Playing with it is amazing, good work.

Thanks for the new update. It seems to be getting better with each release!

Today's update is out. All further updates on are halt until I change all current skinned elements to HD. This shouldn't take more than a week depending on how busy I will be. No more than two weeks at tops.

Edit: Preview of HD. Since I am redeg most of these instead of using Kamui's elements, they are much sharper and more crisp. About 50% done. Just need to do the fonts now and a few misc. elements.

This works with the new skin style also.

Nice skin.

I love this skin so bad!!!!! <3

THANKS A LOT FOR MAKING THIS

Looks great! Its the only skin that I was able adapt quickly enough to use keep. Keep on updating.

Deni_Louise wrote: 6nq19

I love this skin so bad!!!!! <3

THANKS A LOT FOR MAKING THIS

WingZero wrote: p6u3v

Looks great! Its the only skin that I was able adapt quickly enough to use keep. Keep on updating.

Thanks to the both of you. I am getting to the point where I am pretty happy with the main Osu! skin. There is a few more things to change and it should be pretty set. Once those are released, I will start working on other game modes.

Anyone having the same problem as me. The "Mode" and "Mods" buttons are not matching the theme. Ive tried ing more than once still same problem. Heres a screenshot

WingZero wrote: p6u3v

Anyone having the same problem as me. The "Mode" and "Mods" buttons are not matching the theme. Ive tried ing more than once still same problem. Heres a screenshot

SPOILER

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They have not been skinned yet, so that is how they are suppose to look for now. In the next update it should be skinned.

Best skin I've ever seen! Good luck in updating!

Thanks.

If anyone hasn't noticed yet, I added "pending update" to the original post. This is so people know what to expect in the next coming updates. It is also a way for me to keep track of what I done over the week.


Edit: Update tomorrow. Expect it around 6pm (18:00) eastern standard time. Going to install a new operating system on my computer. I want this update out so people can enjoy the snow effect as soon as possible.

New update out. Future updates are on halt till after the holidays.

Tips for snow: If you move your mouse, the snow spins in that direction. The further you move it, the faster it spins. Pretty neat.

You forgot "Changed score bar" in the newest changelog.
Also, nice snow.

Awesome skin thank you! I think the menu snow is a bit obnoxiously big though.

Avail wrote: 6233p

You forgot "Changed score bar" in the newest changelog.
Also, nice snow.

Added.

Reesespuffs wrote: 3w6r3a

Awesome skin thank you! I think the menu snow is a bit obnoxiously big though.

I didn't take the other resolutions that people may play at into consideration. It looks fine on my end. If you want, you can replace it with "blank.png" in the extra folder. That will remove it completely.

Nice skin, I don't mind if there's more Shinobu though
I don't know where you got the countdown voice, but I do love it and the "kaka" laugh.

Miik4chu wrote: 663z2w

Nice skin, I don't mind if there's more Shinobu though
I don't know where you got the countdown voice, but I do love it and the "kaka" laugh.

Countdown is from -Kamui-. The "kaka" laugh is from Nisemonogatari episode 4. I just recorded it with Audacity, and then did some vocal edits on it to clean out the cut a bit.

Exactly what i was looking for, thank you so much :3

EPIC! thank you very much <:

I really like this skin, everything is good.
I can't really see the hitpoints doe, too dark

DepthNemexis wrote: 56n6e

I really like this skin, everything is good.
I can't really see the hitpoints doe, too dark

I actually had someone send in a complaint about this yesterday. My monitor may be a bit brighter than others, so I am going to include a brighter hitcircle in the next update.

When can we expect another update?

Out now.

I get a huge fps drop during spinners, because the center dot moves when I spin. Is there a way to disable that so I can get better fps when I'm spinning?

Tha doesn't make sense since the old one also spins. Once I get home I will the old one and see if that works. Unless you want to try that. Just take a skin pack before the HD release. I thin it will have to be renamed though.

Another thing you can test, is to use another skin that uses the new skin behavior and see if that also causes fps drop.

Uruoki wrote: 33354t

DepthNemexis wrote: 56n6e

I really like this skin, everything is good.
I can't really see the hitpoints doe, too dark

I actually had someone send in a complaint about this yesterday. My monitor may be a bit brighter than others, so I am going to include a brighter hitcircle in the next update.

I meant 300, 100, 50 etc

I think everything is fine. except

Not sure if my eyes are bad or not, but I can't see the approach circles at all xD

I still can't seem to figure out why I'm getting low framerate on spinners. It goes from ~225 FPS to ~60 whenever there's a spinner. I think it has to do with the way the center of the spinner follows the cursor, but I don't know how to disable that. I tried old versions of your skin, and spinners were never a problem until after the 12.7.13 update (12.7.13 update worked fine with spinners).

DepthNemexis wrote: 56n6e

I meant 300, 100, 50 etc

Oh. I'll add brighter ones in the next update. Are you using with a black background?

Shikeu wrote: 5ha53

I think everything is fine. except

Not sure if my eyes are bad or not, but I can't see the approach circles at all xD

Same as above. Will include brighter one, are you using a black background?

Frazee wrote: 6op5p

I still can't seem to figure out why I'm getting low framerate on spinners. It goes from ~225 FPS to ~60 whenever there's a spinner. I think it has to do with the way the center of the spinner follows the cursor, but I don't know how to disable that. I tried old versions of your skin, and spinners were never a problem until after the 12.7.13 update (12.7.13 update worked fine with spinners).

Can you test another skin that uses the new skin behaviour?

EDIT: Open up skin.ini and remove the line that says "Version: 2". See if that helps.

Uruoki wrote: 33354t

Same as above. Will include brighter one, are you using a black background?

I tried 80% dim and black background, but didn't have much of a difference.

Shikeu wrote: 5ha53

Uruoki wrote: 33354t

Same as above. Will include brighter one, are you using a black background?

I tried 80% dim and black background, but didn't have much of a difference.

Try these.

approachcircle@2x
approachcircle

A lot better now xD

Shikeu wrote: 5ha53

A lot better now xD

Let me know if it is too bright or not.

Uruoki wrote: 33354t

DepthNemexis wrote: 56n6e

I meant 300, 100, 50 etc

Oh. I'll add brighter ones in the next update. Are you using with a black background?

Shikeu wrote: 5ha53

I think everything is fine. except

Not sure if my eyes are bad or not, but I can't see the approach circles at all xD

Same as above. Will include brighter one, are you using a black background?

Frazee wrote: 6op5p

I still can't seem to figure out why I'm getting low framerate on spinners. It goes from ~225 FPS to ~60 whenever there's a spinner. I think it has to do with the way the center of the spinner follows the cursor, but I don't know how to disable that. I tried old versions of your skin, and spinners were never a problem until after the 12.7.13 update (12.7.13 update worked fine with spinners).

Can you test another skin that uses the new skin behaviour?

EDIT: Open up skin.ini and remove the line that says "Version: 2". See if that helps.

I'm using a 100% black bg
Btw I can't modify the spinner circle. I change it but it doesn't swap

Going to guess you are using the wrong file. There is two spinner circles. One is for the old skin behavior. It will be removed in the next update (next week, busy right now). The files you want to edit should be, "spinner-middle" and "spinner-middle2".

i have a problem with ur skin idk if its just me or what but first of all the fps drop in spins which people already mentioned but the main problem is when i do spins, the point system is wrong or something. i have a consistent 340-360 spin and i tested it. on one song with the skin i only got 1k points and when i switched to default skin, i would get around 3-4k. could you maybe look into this?

Awesome skin! c:

omop wrote: 375r4s

i have a problem with ur skin idk if its just me or what but first of all the fps drop in spins which people already mentioned but the main problem is when i do spins, the point system is wrong or something. i have a consistent 340-360 spin and i tested it. on one song with the skin i only got 1k points and when i switched to default skin, i would get around 3-4k. could you maybe look into this?

As for the fps drop issue. I still have not figure it out. I worked with someone and we did a lot of stuff, but still workingn it. It is hard for me to test since I get 800+ fps no matter what.

For the 300 spinner points, I think I noticed that, but I will look into it more when I get home.

really nice skin
about the fps drop i get rock solid 2k fps always maybe something is wrong with your pc

I tested the spin, and both problems are non exist to me. I really wish it wasn't the case so I can help.

As for the spinner not going over 350, and you getting 3k-4k, I doubt that. OSU doesn't go above 477.
As for the FPS drop...still working on it.

Lolzyy wrote: 175db

really nice skin
about the fps drop i get rock solid 2k fps always maybe something is wrong with your pc

Thanks.

ik osu doesnt go above 477 but i am legitimately losing points. i can even record and show you about the point change. it is very obvious. but when i put on auto spin, it spins at 280 something and still gets more points than me. i doubt that i spin slower than 280. the counter like i said is 320-380

Definetly the best skin I ever used.
By the way, I have no idea what spinner problem those people are talking about, I get even better spins than I did with the old skin.

omop wrote: 375r4s

ik osu doesnt go above 477 but i am legitimately losing points. i can even record and show you about the point change. it is very obvious. but when i put on auto spin, it spins at 280 something and still gets more points than me. i doubt that i spin slower than 280. the counter like i said is 320-380

Not sure. If you don't mind, make a video showing the default skin and my skin.

awesome skin

I just noticed. I think I left "CLICK CLICK BANG BANG" soundset in the main folder. If you want the default sounds, they are in the extra folder. Sorry about that. It will be changed back in the next update.

I have been playing for four months. You made a skin that caught my eye, this and another skin a friend made me are the only ones I like. Thank you for this skin.

Could anyone tell me what some popular holidays are? I can do the American holidays. Making holiday icons for menu-snow. So far I have two dutch holidays. Dodenherdenking and Doningsdag. Also, please don't mention holidays that may share the same symbol. Like Valentine's day in America and White Day in Japan. They can both use a heart.

Thank you in advance.

Clockar wrote: z3l23

I have been playing for four months. You made a skin that caught my eye, this and another skin a friend made me are the only ones I like. Thank you for this skin.

Not a problem.

Great job ! I'm using a skin (mainly for osu!mania as I don't play any other modes) which is the exact opposite of this one, and mine hurts like a truck when lights are switched off.

Might try this one out someday if I'm not too lazy to play some osu!standard.


By the way, that science part in the OP was interesting.
Keep up the good work !

PyaKura wrote: 486k50

Great job ! I'm using a skin (mainly for osu!mania as I don't play any other modes) which is the exact opposite of this one, and mine hurts like a truck when lights are switched off.

Might try this one out someday if I'm not too lazy to play some osu!standard.


By the way, that science part in the OP was interesting.
Keep up the good work !

Yea it's not ready yet for Mania. That is the only thing left to skin. Hopefully the next update or two will get Mania done.

I'm glad I decided to look at some more skins, the colours in this are perfect. Looking forward to more updates on this! ^^

EDIT: The only thing I'm not liking is the spinner, but I understand this is a wip so I hope this helps!

Neroh wrote: 6p617

I'm glad I decided to look at some more skins, the colours in this are perfect. Looking forward to more updates on this! ^^

EDIT: The only thing I'm not liking is the spinner, but I understand this is a wip so I hope this helps!

It is almost done actually. Just need to finish Taiko and Mania. I suppose I can make an alternative and more noticeable spinner. What did you not like about it?

You're a genius

-Kamui- wrote: 2o6669

You're a genius

Thanks, you too.

Uruoki wrote: 33354t

It is almost done actually. Just need to finish Taiko and Mania. I suppose I can make an alternative and more noticeable spinner. What did you not like about it?

I found it difficult to tell the sense of speed when using it, maybe cause I'm used to a bar filling, but I don't think that many people use a bar. It's not important or anything but I just found it off putting idk ^^

Neroh wrote: 6p617

Uruoki wrote: 33354t

It is almost done actually. Just need to finish Taiko and Mania. I suppose I can make an alternative and more noticeable spinner. What did you not like about it?

I found it difficult to tell the sense of speed when using it, maybe cause I'm used to a bar filling, but I don't think that many people use a bar. It's not important or anything but I just found it off putting idk ^^

The bars/meter on the side? Pretty sure that is disable with the new skin behavior. I could unforce that and add a meter. I rather not though since the new skin seems to handle scoreboard better and has more skin elements to work/customize. Hope you get use to it though, you can always check your speed with the box at the bottom.

Interesting, think i will use it. At least the circles(I play osu with a frankstein skin) '-'
Also, nice article, gives some ideas for messing with things around here, less stress on the eyes is a good thing.

New skin is out. Everything should be fully skinned. (Unless I miss a few things).

Just 3 major updates before I release a final version. Menu/ui redesign (if it works how I want it to), design some new sounds, and optimize the skin. There is a few elements not in HD. This will also be part of the menu/ui redesign.

These updates will come when they are done. Mainly depend on when I feel like doing them.

Unless something breaks, or I miss an important element, then no other updates will come out anytime soon. I feel like I missed some mania elements. Since I am not a mania player, I don't know what I may have missed.

May do the er elements if I can get my hands on it or have someone test them for me. Not sure.

Great news !

Forgot to skin Taiko-hits. Will get those done tomorrow hopefully.

This is a great skin and a good read as well! Keep up the hard work!

Uruoki wrote: 33354t

Forgot to skin Taiko-hits. Will get those done tomorrow hopefully.

gimmie a poke when you're ready and I'll check this fully