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Inaudible objects (volume threshold depends on mp3 volume) have always been unrankable. The only thing allowed to be silenced is a spinner.winber1 wrote: 4i6h5j
also since when were all "silenced" (5% volume) objects unrankable...? can't we still silence slider ends...?
or did shiro not mean to imply that..? because that's kinda what it feels like he's saying from the different comments i've seen.
Shohei Ohtani
Actually this interests me as well. I'm almost positive that atleast at some point silent slider-ends have been rankable as long as they're used in a way that makes sense.Shiro wrote: 3e4m3t
Inaudible objects (volume threshold depends on mp3 volume) have always been unrankable. The only thing allowed to be silenced is a spinner.winber1 wrote: 4i6h5j
also since when were all "silenced" (5% volume) objects unrankable...? can't we still silence slider ends...?
or did shiro not mean to imply that..? because that's kinda what it feels like he's saying from the different comments i've seen.
Edit: Whoop yep.
"The end of a spinner (or even the entire spinner) the sliding sound of a slider, and the end of a slider can be silent, but only do it if it makes sense. "
Here they are! The numbers in each difficulty name are the score they received. That way you can sort them by that and play them in order from the zeros to the heros... or the other way around!
Infected Mushroom - Pink Nightmares
Kurosaki Maon - Fuss Fuzz
Tomoya Ohtani - Rooftop Run (classic)
Alright, so sorting by difficulty name doesn't seem to be a thing. It still shouldn't be hard to play them in score order though!
Kodora
Good wording actually but sadly we cant remove some ticks from sliders due to tickrate limit, and not every tick sounds always good, so i dont see anything wrong with silencing ticks if they doesnt fit.MMzz wrote: 2i3zq
Sliderticks fall under this too, because what is the point of having them if you can't hear them?
Good job,I just down all Fuss Fuzz XDSoaprman wrote: 3v724a
Currently compiling oszs with all entries in them. Stand by!
Here they are! The numbers in each difficulty name are the score they received. That way you can sort them by that and play them in order from the zeros to the heros... or the other way around!
Infected Mushroom - Pink Nightmares
Kurosaki Maon - Fuss Fuzz
Tomoya Ohtani - Rooftop Run (classic)
Alright, so sorting by difficulty name doesn't seem to be a thing. It still shouldn't be hard to play them in score order though!
Maybe next time use that game menu image announcement to announce that a beatmapping contest is going on instead of using the website to announce it under the main page. Not everyone looks at the website let alone the main page. They usually just go and get beatmaps or use multiplayer to get new maps. Just how quickly OWC twitch channel got viewers when it was added to the main menu.peppy wrote: 6w4l42
Yes, there were far too few entries.
Good point but i'm sure many of those people who don't use the site often won't really know how to map, especially given the time period you have to do it in? The twitch was more successful because it was aimed towards players, whom there are more of as inverness mentioned and not as much work as mapping i'd thinkDexus wrote: 5x17s
Maybe next time use that game menu image announcement to announce that a beatmapping contest is going on instead of using the website to announce it under the main page. Not everyone looks at the website let alone the main page. They usually just go and get beatmaps or use multiplayer to get new maps. Just how quickly OWC twitch channel got viewers when it was added to the main menu.peppy wrote: 6w4l42
Yes, there were far too few entries.
though spreading the news is good anyway lol
Well,
Personally, I didn't even realize this contest existed until RLC told me like 4 days in. I might have figured it later, but I didn't check the forums and the main page that much. iirc, Beatmap contest #3 was actually d in osu! and I'm pretty sure it did help it get recognition. It probably didn't attract that many people, but it definitely helps imo.
Personally, I didn't even realize this contest existed until RLC told me like 4 days in. I might have figured it later, but I didn't check the forums and the main page that much. iirc, Beatmap contest #3 was actually d in osu! and I'm pretty sure it did help it get recognition. It probably didn't attract that many people, but it definitely helps imo.
The reason the contest didn't attract many people is mainly because of the requirement to make a full set. A lot of people in this competition made a difficulty and promptly got bored. You can see a lot of the failed submissions ed for graveyard.
A single difficulty competition would see far more entries, the only downside being the winners wouldn't be immediately ranked.
Also, two of the songs needed a tad more work to them. Rooftop Run was quite long and Pink Nightmares had a tough repetitive beats section halfway through. Fuss Fuzz' length was solid, although the swing beat probably threw mappers off.
A single difficulty competition would see far more entries, the only downside being the winners wouldn't be immediately ranked.
Also, two of the songs needed a tad more work to them. Rooftop Run was quite long and Pink Nightmares had a tough repetitive beats section halfway through. Fuss Fuzz' length was solid, although the swing beat probably threw mappers off.
I am almost sure that was because of the songs lol
The idea was nice tho, one videogame song, one anime song and one electronic song to make everyone happy
Just the choice was... weird
All the songs should have at least almost the same lenght to be fair lol
btw I hope we can have a storyboard contest soon :3
The idea was nice tho, one videogame song, one anime song and one electronic song to make everyone happy
Just the choice was... weird
All the songs should have at least almost the same lenght to be fair lol
btw I hope we can have a storyboard contest soon :3
Im not very good at mapping, but personally I didn't make any entry because well, I didn't like any of the songs, 2 of the songs were LONG and repetitive, and mapping hard/normal difficulties. For a mapping contest, rankability seems like a pretty silly thing to judge on.
Not to mention I hadn't even heard of the contest until several weeks in.
Anyways congrats to the winners, all of these maps are pretty impressive in their own right.
Not to mention I hadn't even heard of the contest until several weeks in.
Anyways congrats to the winners, all of these maps are pretty impressive in their own right.
Well, the Sonic song was obviously not a good choice, but the 2 remaining ones were pretty fun to map. Next time the songs should be picked via genre, not theme I guess (i.e. "anime" category should be just "japanese"). Also every aspect of the picks should be thought off thoroughly so the songs fit everyone's mapping taste.
It really is kind of baffling that Rooftop Run wasn't cut. If I modded a map of that, I'd probably ask the mapper to edit a loop out of the mp3. Was it to test mappers' ability to handle repetition or something? To me, some of the incomplete maps for that song indicate a good judgment call on how long a map of that song should be. I'd probably have given them bonus points for that.
Length aside, though, it's a pretty good song choice. A shorter version would be fun to map, I think.
I like that some of the judges were willing to comment on incomplete/unrankable mapsets. I kind of wanted to enter but didn't because I wasn't sure I could make a full mapset I'm happy with in the given amount of time. Seeing the comments though kind of encourages me to enter next time. Hopefully it's not too far away!
Length aside, though, it's a pretty good song choice. A shorter version would be fun to map, I think.
I like that some of the judges were willing to comment on incomplete/unrankable mapsets. I kind of wanted to enter but didn't because I wasn't sure I could make a full mapset I'm happy with in the given amount of time. Seeing the comments though kind of encourages me to enter next time. Hopefully it's not too far away!
Also, the map pickers should really look into BPM and the how the song could be mapped.
We could have a song similar to Pink Nightmares, slow but complex rhythm. We could then have some relatively fast-paced and relatively streamy map (not so much that the whole thing is a death stream tho LOL). And then we could have maybe some average J-pop map.
One flaw I see is that it's not just the genre of the music, but also the fact that the beatmaps chosen are not completely different in the way that they will be mapped. I mean the most clear example would be streamy maps vs. non-streamy maps. But there could be other things to consider like songs that have very epic parts and very soft parts vs. songs that generally stay about the same epicness level.
Well that's just a rough idea.
We could have a song similar to Pink Nightmares, slow but complex rhythm. We could then have some relatively fast-paced and relatively streamy map (not so much that the whole thing is a death stream tho LOL). And then we could have maybe some average J-pop map.
One flaw I see is that it's not just the genre of the music, but also the fact that the beatmaps chosen are not completely different in the way that they will be mapped. I mean the most clear example would be streamy maps vs. non-streamy maps. But there could be other things to consider like songs that have very epic parts and very soft parts vs. songs that generally stay about the same epicness level.
Well that's just a rough idea.
chance is high that the winning song (determined by its popularity) will be liked by majority and therefore would also be liked to be mapped by manyCXu wrote: 1u4829
People won't map because not enough animu.Loctav wrote: 3n5266
Next beatmap contest will be done with created songs along with a composing contest right before it.
So the most popular compositions will be mapped for the contest.
I hope this idea works out good.
Shohei Ohtani
I will state my opinion on the low number of contestants
There is definitely enough beatmappers on Osu! to create a larger number than this. I don't think it was lack of notification as most active beatmappers are usually updated on the announcements. I believe the mapper choose not to take part. It's either they didn't like the songs, had their own maps to tend for, or anything else. Personally I did not participate as I thought that there would be too much competition, but turns out there wasn't. Really the way to fix this problem is to make the competition more attractive. At least give more time for submission as it's 3 diffs. And maybe there could be a link to the results of the previous year's results when you announce the next contest so people will get an idea of the standard they're facing ^^
But yea, that's all I got to say ._.
There is definitely enough beatmappers on Osu! to create a larger number than this. I don't think it was lack of notification as most active beatmappers are usually updated on the announcements. I believe the mapper choose not to take part. It's either they didn't like the songs, had their own maps to tend for, or anything else. Personally I did not participate as I thought that there would be too much competition, but turns out there wasn't. Really the way to fix this problem is to make the competition more attractive. At least give more time for submission as it's 3 diffs. And maybe there could be a link to the results of the previous year's results when you announce the next contest so people will get an idea of the standard they're facing ^^
But yea, that's all I got to say ._.
Thanks, I was going to do something like this, but it turns out I don't need to^^Soaprman wrote: 3v724a
Currently compiling oszs with all entries in them. Stand by!
Here they are! The numbers in each difficulty name are the score they received. That way you can sort them by that and play them in order from the zeros to the heros... or the other way around!
Infected Mushroom - Pink Nightmares
Kurosaki Maon - Fuss Fuzz
Tomoya Ohtani - Rooftop Run (classic)
Alright, so sorting by difficulty name doesn't seem to be a thing. It still shouldn't be hard to play them in score order though!
I already played all Fuss songs, to see how other people mapped it, and in my heart, wcx19911123 took first place, fartownik and Lesjuh second and Xgor third =)
Concerning the rules, I think it is totally normal not to allow skins, storyboard or backgrounds. However, I don't think that applies for custom hitsounds. Because hitsounds have a direct effect on the map and are not only exterior or decoration. Some mapping styles might not sound good unless they have their special hitsounds. So I think that rule should be re-thought about.
Exams are always. Exams are here in August, in other countries in July, in others in June, others in May, April, March, February, September, October (like I have exams in October, even if others do have them in August).Kert wrote: 6o3b5i
You didn't participate, you can't tell.
Though the main problem was not the amount of time, but the exams and everything in June
That's how it works and can never be avoided. I can't imagine any contest where no one hopped in and said "NOT THIS TIME, ITS EXAMS TIME" D:
In my view one possible way to partly avoid this is to make time interval before deadline around 1 month+week or 2 weeks more (like it was changed this time)
Exam sessions rarely last for a whole month, don't they? So even if most of the time is occupied, there still will be those spare weeks to finish the mapset
Exam sessions rarely last for a whole month, don't they? So even if most of the time is occupied, there still will be those spare weeks to finish the mapset
I am actually proud of the way my maps turned out. Although I do not recognize some (most) of the mappers, I feel pretty good as to where I ranked.
Congrats to all who participated, especially the winners (it was a no brainer Lesjuh would receive a high score, but Xgor seems to really improved as a mapper since I saw him last).
And lastly, I agree with Charles about the reason the submissions were quite low. It would be a good idea to have the community take part in the song suggestions (I think it was like that for a previous contest (?)), where s can vote or make suggestions for the song choices.
Congrats to all who participated, especially the winners (it was a no brainer Lesjuh would receive a high score, but Xgor seems to really improved as a mapper since I saw him last).
The beatmap approval system wasn't working for me at the time. If you're really asking, I was about to make an entire paragraph of why I disapprove of the ranking system. Not really because of the BATs and mods, part of it was me being busy outside of osu! and the frequency of how much my pending maps actually got modded.bmin11 wrote: 1d1l1g
Why aren't you guys mapping regular maps?Entries wrote: 4nx5a
Gens, eee, Lesjuh
And lastly, I agree with Charles about the reason the submissions were quite low. It would be a good idea to have the community take part in the song suggestions (I think it was like that for a previous contest (?)), where s can vote or make suggestions for the song choices.