This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2012年6月4日 at 下午 08:47:23

Artist: Otokaze
Title: Karen (Short Ver.)
Tags: ertyukjh010 sokiyar Chill Collection Vol.3
BPM: 184
Filesize: 6823kb
Play Time: 02:24
Difficulties Available:

1. ERT's Natsu (2.63 stars, 164 notes)
2. Hanabi (5 stars, 435 notes)
3. Karen (4.28 stars, 192 notes)
4. Taiko Oni (4.83 stars, 678 notes)

: Otokaze - Karen (Short Ver.)
: Otokaze - Karen (Short Ver.) (Special SB) By sherrie__fay
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing

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[Otokaze - 夏恋 (keran)]

[full ver.]

[ert's Natsu]
finish By: ertyukjh010

[Karen]
finish By: spboxer3

[Hanabi]
finish By: spboxer3

[Taiko Oni]
finish By: spboxer3

瞎了上傳了 瞎了沒kd了...

Keran

前排

BPM 184 你竟然叫我這小沙包單指戳
你改行要當S了嗎>_>...

总体感觉比你传我的时候排得好了\:D/

自己打着有几处节奏还是感觉需要梳理一下
首先是01:05:995 (3,4) - 这里还是顺应前面改成单点或者只把3改成单点也可以
尤其(3)这里遮挡很厉害看不见 后边好像还有个类似的地方也是 但那里还可以凑合过去 这个遮地理位置不是很好(你在说什么
01:21:647 (5,6) - 这两个的顺序倒过来
01:29:147 (7,8,9,10,11,12) - 这边跳有点乱来了



放弃吧 赌上全部的爱和感动 我SB一定要做比你好看

sherrie__fay wrote: 6j3bd

总体感觉比你传我的时候排得好了\:D/

自己打着有几处节奏还是感觉需要梳理一下
首先是01:05:995 (3,4) - 这里还是顺应前面改成单点或者只把3改成单点也可以
尤其(3)这里遮挡很厉害看不见 后边好像还有个类似的地方也是 但那里还可以凑合过去 这个遮地理位置不是很好(你在说什么
01:21:647 (5,6) - 这两个的顺序倒过来 改
01:29:147 (7,8,9,10,11,12) - 这边跳有点乱来了

其他的沒動._.

放弃吧 赌上全部的爱和感动 我SB一定要做比你好看 WT!!!!

臥槽跟lks那個感覺的即視感

2.63 Star

希望Sp3喜歡~

: Otokaze - Natsu koi (Short Ver.) (spboxer3) [ERT's Natsu].osu

Mystica wrote: 4w58b

臥槽跟lks那個感覺的即視感

你說神馬 雖然我也覺得

Mystica wrote: 4w58b

臥槽跟lks那個感覺的即視感

我没觉得..只是音乐出自一人之手

MOD from PM in Game

[General]
Looks fine

[ERT'Natsu]
00:37:625 (4) - add clap
00:57:517 (2) - 1 grid left?
01:13:821 (6) - remove clap end slider
01:19:365 (3) - ^ beginer slider
01:37:625 (3) - ^
01:45:452 (3) - remove clap
02:04:039 (1) - ^
02:06:321 (4) - ^?
02:15:778 (1) - add NC?

[Keran]
cant find anything wrong

[Hanabi]
cant find anything wrong

good luck~

Hi~Request from spboxer3 in-game chat

[General]
ERT's Natsu难度少了这行代码

SliderBorder : 255,255,255

note的颜色和背景在一起有时候容易看不清...尤其是黄颜色在靠下面的部分..


[Storyboard]
SB\SB6.jpeg 这个图像的画质好像有点差了...换一个更好一点的><


[ERT's Natsu]
00:52:299 - 这个附近其他两个难度有手动调整break time..这个难度没有l_l

[Keran]
wonderful~

[Hanabi]
-Beatmap-
00:05:017 (4) - 和2重合的话打起来稍有别扭...
00:05:343 (1) - 这里的音效怎么好像有点破音lol
00:36:484 (1) - 应该没问题不过稍有些难读
01:28:495 (4) - 1/3好像有些别扭（后面同


[Overall]
Hanabi难度试一下AR8~(逃...
快去rank吧快去rank吧>///<
才没看到菲姐写的什么2333333

kyuten wrote: 3n195j

Hi~Request from spboxer3 in-game chat

[General]
ERT's Natsu难度少了这行代码

SliderBorder : 255,255,255

note的颜色和背景在一起有时候容易看不清...尤其是黄颜色在靠下面的部分..


[Storyboard]
SB\SB6.jpeg 这个图像的画质好像有点差了...换一个更好一点的><


[ERT's Natsu]
00:52:299 - 这个附近其他两个难度有手动调整break time..这个难度没有l_l

[Keran]
wonderful~

[Hanabi]
-Beatmap-
00:05:017 (4) - 和2重合的话打起来稍有别扭...
00:05:343 (1) - 这里的音效怎么好像有点破音lol
00:36:484 (1) - 应该没问题不过稍有些难读
01:28:495 (4) - 1/3好像有些别扭（后面同


[Overall]
Hanabi难度试一下AR8~(逃...
快去rank吧快去rank吧>///<
才没看到菲姐写的什么2333333

抱歉我就沒改摟^^~
謝謝你的mod~

This is an already very well-done mapset, I can't pick much.

General
Shouldn't the BPM be 92 instead?!

[ERT's Natsu]
The sliderslides at the beginning of song are not entirely silenced. You may wish to "plant some grass".

[Karen]
Very nice.

[Hanabi]
Although technically sound, I seriously dislike the fact there are empty beats, eg. 00:25:723 (4,1).
The rhythm was flowing very fast and without warning there is an anti-jump.
Unless the player studies the map thoroughly, playing this diff will be quite frustrating.

In later parts your jumps look good, but spacing goes up and down within a combo very drastically.
Ex. 01:07:952 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8)
01:20:995 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8)
01:45:778 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8)
They look good aesthetically, but considering flow and how they fit the music, I'd say definitely not optimal.
Next time when putting jumps, try putting flow into consideration.
In other words, either make spacing not to change that much within a combo, or avoid stacking objects obscuring the path of jumps.

=====================

Well-done and quite complete.

No kds necessary for this post.

Good luck!

yongtw123 wrote: b516c

This is an already very well-done mapset, I can't pick much.

General
Shouldn't the BPM be 92 instead?!

[ERT's Natsu]
The sliderslides at the beginning of song are not entirely silenced. You may wish to "plant some grass".

[Karen]
Very nice.

[Hanabi]
Although technically sound, I seriously dislike the fact there are empty beats, eg. 00:25:723 (4,1).
The rhythm was flowing very fast and without warning there is an anti-jump.
Unless the player studies the map thoroughly, playing this diff will be quite frustrating.

In later parts your jumps look good, but spacing goes up and down within a combo very drastically.
Ex. 01:07:952 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8)
01:20:995 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8)
01:45:778 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8)
They look good aesthetically, but considering flow and how they fit the music, I'd say definitely not optimal.
Next time when putting jumps, try putting flow into consideration.
In other words, either make spacing not to change that much within a combo, or avoid stacking objects obscuring the path of jumps.

=====================

Well-done and quite complete.

No kds necessary for this post.

Good luck!

我依舊是給了
Thanks your mod ^^

request from In-game PM ~



沒啥好說，好圖
隨意丟顆star再說聲goodbye
good luck ~

Hi there

[General]
* I feel that Combo Colours 1 is blending the BG, but I'm not sure about this


[ERT's Natsu]
* This diff must have a Sliderboroder under [Colour] tab, like others

01:56:212 (1) - Why this slider is the only one who has a finish hitsound?


[Keran]
* AR +1?

00:39:256 (2) - Remove clap at head slider?
01:59:473 (2) - Extend this to 01:59:962 and add clap at end?


[Hanabi]
00:26:049 (1,2) - I hate if this pattern is same as 00:25:560 (3,4) but (1) is snap at next red tick. But it just my feeling, though
00:33:875 (1,2) - ^
00:41:865 (5) - New combo?
01:29:636 (10,12) - Because (10) is stack with (8), it really confuse me. Try to switch place for this one? But, I'm not sure....


Good job~

DarknessAngel wrote: 3r5a12

request from In-game PM ~

Red words = Unrankable thing
Blue words = It is the best way that you fix it
Black words = If I were you,I would do that
Green words = some of my comment,or something I want you to notice

General 6285k

1. 01:45:778 - 這裡剛好是這kai time的中心點，做一次噴泉效果嗎？ 抱歉 我不想耶 因為已經用SB作了效果了

Hanabi 4j4c5n

1. 00:36:484 (1) - 真心覺得這spacing不好，挺confusing的，疊在00:36:973 (3)或00:36:158 (6)上合適點(總之就是要增加間距) keep it
2. 01:00:125 (4) - 往上一格好看些 改了些
3. 01:07:136 (6) - ctrl + R will flow better keep it
4. 01:34:854 (6,7) - ctrl + R更爽o.o keep it
5. 很好(我看到一些我也會常用的梗lol) 是這樣嗎0.0 可是我怎麼沒看過...

Keran 2j691d

1. 00:09:256 (1) - 雖然你叫我不要mod音效...可這裡明明就要加whistle的T.T。嘛，其他就算了 這地方沒改耶~ 這邊我本來就是要擺這樣的...
2. 00:29:473 (1) - 這slider沒用好，把第3點拉到(x:224,y:168) "額...這個嘛 我是改了下啦 但是不是你的位置"
3. 02:09:256 (3) - 這拉條有點歪掉，試試看這樣子 ? 沒歪掉啦>_<

ERT's Natsu 61376v

1. 00:08:930 (3) - 消掉grid snap然後把這note移到(x:209,y:37) "這是nazi 我幫ERT改了一下"

沒啥好說，好圖
隨意丟顆star再說聲goodbye 謝謝搂~
good luck ~

Leorda wrote: 2f1c22

Hi there

[General]
* I feel that Combo Colours 1 is blending the BG, but I'm not sure about this Umm. I find other MAT/BAT to test it. but them doesn't give me response to this problem. I want keep it~ sorry


[ERT's Natsu]
* This diff must have a Sliderboroder under [Colour] tab, like others My bad ~It's Done

01:56:212 (1) - Why this slider is the only one who has a finish hitsound? like other diff. I used finish in all diff


[Keran]
* AR +1? It's too Fast AR for me~ sorry. no change this :<

00:39:256 (2) - Remove clap at head slider? umm... Keep it. sorry
01:59:473 (2) - Extend this to 01:59:962 and add clap at end? ^


[Hanabi]
00:26:049 (1,2) - I hate if this pattern is same as 00:25:560 (3,4) but (1) is snap at next red tick. But it just my feeling, though Umm. It's just some idea and style's collision. I want keep it~sorry again orz...
00:33:875 (1,2) - ^ ^
00:41:865 (5) - New combo? yep~It's fixed now
01:29:636 (10,12) - Because (10) is stack with (8), it really confuse me. Try to switch place for this one? But, I'm not sure....
I try to find player to test it. but I didn't get the complain for this part :< so I think I will keep it~ thanks ^^

Good job~ thank you~^^

<ERT's Natsu>

1. 00:41:865 (3) - 移到[X:256 Y:84]?
2. 01:35:017 - 加個圈?
3. 02:01:430 (1,2,3) - (3)排成這樣>_<?? http://puu.sh/uFUF

<Keran>

1. 00:14:962 - whistle
2. 00:59:799 (3,4) - 要不要做微彎:3?

<Hanabi>

1. 00:05:017 (4) - whistle
2. 00:15:451 (4) - ^
3. 00:18:386 (3,4) - 位置對調如何?
4. 01:10:886 (2,3) - ^
5. 02:15:778 (3) - 試試這個節奏?
   

就這樣了~
送顆星吧@w@

12BARRY21 wrote: 4l603r

<ERT's Natsu>

1. 00:41:865 (3) - 移到[X:256 Y:84]?
2. 01:35:017 - 加個圈?
3. 02:01:430 (1,2,3) - (3)排成這樣>_<?? http://puu.sh/uFUF

<Keran>

1. 00:14:962 - whistle 沒動耶
2. 00:59:799 (3,4) - 要不要做微彎:3?

沒動耶

<Hanabi>

1. 00:05:017 (4) - whistle 沒動耶
2. 00:15:451 (4) - ^ 沒動耶
3. 00:18:386 (3,4) - 位置對調如何? 沒動耶
4. 01:10:886 (2,3) - ^ 好
5. 02:15:778 (3) - 試試這個節奏? 沒動耶
   

就這樣了~
送顆星吧@w@ 感謝你!!

等等看ert是否要改...

guest SB done >.<


9nd easy SB.
signature updated.

: SB.rar

神音效！~


[Hanabi]
00:13:658 (5) - 这个感觉破坏了安静的感觉
00:25:723 (4,1) - 识图困难
00:36:158 (6,1) - ^
01:16:430 (3,4,5,6) - 感觉顺序不好

01:56:212 (1) - 这里不加喷泉了么
02:12:517 (2,3,4) - (2)可以变成一个小弧线，再把的尾部往左拉一点，这样(3,4)就摆得密一些
后面有一些是由于用1/3产生的overlap，我觉得还是移开一些比较好

cmn_891127 wrote: 563p3o

神音效！~


[Hanabi]
00:13:658 (5) - 这个感觉破坏了安静的感觉
00:25:723 (4,1) - 识图困难
00:36:158 (6,1) - ^
01:16:430 (3,4,5,6) - 感觉顺序不好

01:56:212 (1) - 这里不加喷泉了么
02:12:517 (2,3,4) - (2)可以变成一个小弧线，再把的尾部往左拉一点，这样(3,4)就摆得密一些
后面有一些是由于用1/3产生的overlap，我觉得还是移开一些比较好

謝謝你的mod摟^^~

/PM

[General]

我耳机很猛的关系么，觉得Easy开头的默认用的sliderslide的声音好吵啊，求压低。
Sliderborder值总体显得太亮了，我拉到PS测了一下，可以试试看215, 213, 200

[Easy]

02:02:734 (3) - 转-18度吧(clockwise)

就是这样：


[Keran]

00:29:473 (1) - try x=320, y=216

[Hanabi]

00:05:017 (4) - 试试看往右上放一点，造成1234连起来越来越小的感觉/A\正好和音乐的音量减小也比较搭嘛/A\
00:10:560 (1) - slidertick的声音消掉 刚开始还以为是slidertick的声音后来发现是mp3自带的？总之好猎奇啊/A\
00:15:451 (4) - 和之前一样
01:18:060 (3) - 试试看这样：

02:03:223 (7) - CTRL+R顺点


没了

Megurine Luka wrote: 3r33j

/PM

[General]

我耳机很猛的关系么，觉得Easy开头的默认用的sliderslide的声音好吵啊，求压低。
Sliderborder值总体显得太亮了，我拉到PS测了一下，可以试试看215, 213, 200 改

效果

[Easy]

02:02:734 (3) - 转-18度吧(clockwise)

就是这样：


[Keran]

00:29:473 (1) - try x=320, y=216

[Hanabi]

00:05:017 (4) - 试试看往右上放一点，造成1234连起来越来越小的感觉/A\正好和音乐的音量减小也比较搭嘛/A\
00:10:560 (1) - slidertick的声音消掉 刚开始还以为是slidertick的声音后来发现是mp3自带的？总之好猎奇啊/A\ 改
00:15:451 (4) - 和之前一样 改
01:18:060 (3) - 试试看这样：

02:03:223 (7) - CTRL+R顺点


没了

謝謝摟^^~ 等ert吧

sry im late

whistle that you using 02:27:517 (last spinner) sound have noise abit noisy for me

ERT's Natsu

00:05:343 (3) - if you wanna use same hitsound as hardest diff, add whistle here
00:15:778 (3) - ^
00:22:625 (1) - delete this because so many note for newbie
01:18:712 (2) - how about this?
why not same sound 01:35:343 (1) - and 01:56:212 (1) -
02:06:647 (1) - add finish
02:14:473 (3) ~ how about this?


Hanabi

can i ask? http://puu.sh/uRnN this green line use there because you need slider sound abit?
if so, so many using it.... noisy for me

00:19:691 (1) - add whistle (end of slider)
01:22:299 (8) - plz volume down
why not same sound 01:35:343 (1) - and 01:56:212 (1) -
02:16:430 (4) - its better for me

good luck~

y u c a wrote: c3v50

sry im late
Hanabi

can i ask? http://puu.sh/uRnN this green line use there because you need slider sound abit? no It's used green line to avoid sliderslide. because it's used default hitsound.
if so, so many using it.... noisy for me

00:19:691 (1) - add whistle (end of slider spinner.) ok
01:22:299 (8) - plz volume down ok. It's changed 40% now
why not same sound 01:35:343 (1) - and 01:56:212 (1) - Umm... like DJ Okawari - Flower Dance (Short Ver.) I don't want used same hitsound for those part.
02:16:430 (4) - its better for me sorry. I still keep it :<

SPOILER

good luck~

thanks your help ~^^

: Otokaze - Natsu koi (Short Ver.) (spboxer3) [ERT's Natsu].osu

Hanabi

00:03:223 (7) - 虽然音乐里有噗的声音但是感觉这里还是删掉这个NOTE好，前面既然跟钢琴就不要再跟别的了。
00:19:039 (5) - 这个也弄成0.5x？
00:27:028 (7,8) - 感觉变成三连加上clap会略爽（节奏上）（然后对应的位置还有00:37:462，可能是个人偏好的节奏吧233 ╮(￣▽￣)╭）
00:41:865 (1,2) - 这里试试把1变成一个1/1的slider转上去，2变成circle
01:05:995 (3,4) - 和上面的类似，改成1/1+circle。另外有点遮……
01:24:745 - 加个音？
01:34:039 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 这两个正方形感觉有点歪？既然要摆图形还是标准点好
01:49:365 (9) - 这种1/3加上这个音效听起来还是有点怪的，如果我可能会把中间两个note都静音掉或者降低音量。后面的也是
02:24:908 - 我觉得还是把note结束到这里再开始spinner比较好比如把最后一个slider做成往返


Keran

00:14:473 (1) - 前面那根还好，这里同类的就感觉有点怪，中间是红线而音乐是白线1/1踩过去那个地方没有音
00:31:430 (4,5) - 这两个长短交换一下，前面一拍后面一拍半
01:36:647 (3,4,5) - 这个节奏感觉用太早或者是没用对地方233（貌似和你其它地方的节奏不统一了），改简单点会好


ert's Natsu

00:05:343 - 其实我觉得不如就用一直用默认的soft，这个变音有点吓人233
00:15:778 - 同


储量不多先就不射了

Sandpig wrote: 6y326w

Hanabi

00:03:223 (7) - 虽然音乐里有噗的声音但是感觉这里还是删掉这个NOTE好，前面既然跟钢琴就不要再跟别的了。
00:19:039 (5) - 这个也弄成0.5x？
00:27:028 (7,8) - 感觉变成三连加上clap会略爽（节奏上）（然后对应的位置还有00:37:462，可能是个人偏好的节奏吧233 ╮(￣▽￣)╭）
00:41:865 (1,2) - 这里试试把1变成一个1/1的slider转上去，2变成circle
01:05:995 (3,4) - 和上面的类似，改成1/1+circle。另外有点遮……
01:24:745 - 加个音？
01:34:039 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 这两个正方形感觉有点歪？既然要摆图形还是标准点好
01:49:365 (9) - 这种1/3加上这个音效听起来还是有点怪的，如果我可能会把中间两个note都静音掉或者降低音量。后面的也是
02:24:908 - 我觉得还是把note结束到这里再开始spinner比较好比如把最后一个slider做成往返


Keran

00:14:473 (1) - 前面那根还好，这里同类的就感觉有点怪，中间是红线而音乐是白线1/1踩过去那个地方没有音
00:31:430 (4,5) - 这两个长短交换一下，前面一拍后面一拍半
01:36:647 (3,4,5) - 这个节奏感觉用太早或者是没用对地方233（貌似和你其它地方的节奏不统一了），改简单点会好


ert's Natsu

00:05:343 - 其实我觉得不如就用一直用默认的soft，这个变音有点吓人233
00:15:778 - 同


储量不多先就不射了

謝謝你的mod摟~^^

Hi ~ spboxer3 ~

Mod time for PM in game ~



Red : Must be fixed
Pink : Should be fixed
Purple : Just suggestions



That's all ~ I can't find more issue ~

Really nice mapset and cool sb ~

Call me back recheck ~ when you are ready ~

Kawayi Rika wrote: 3r5631

Hi ~ spboxer3 ~

Mod time for PM in game ~



Red : Must be fixed
Pink : Should be fixed
Purple : Just suggestions

[Hanabi] o516f

1. 00:34:691 (6) - Add new combo,because confused play and vocal start to here.
2. 01:18:386 (4) - ^
3. 01:34:691 (5) - ^

[Keran] j2z31

1. HP,OD+1 , I think too low setting for this diff.

That's all ~ I can't find more issue ~

Really nice mapset and cool sb ~

Call me back recheck ~ when you are ready ~

All fix~thank you^^

OK ~ Good job :3

Good luck with rank ~

謝謝妳><!!

正當神MAPPER又RANK圖的時候我又再瞎了一次希望快點瞎吧你妹為什麼這麼多顆星還要我射一顆星在這裡

路過~恭喜 被泡圖了

偷射星~

Title should be "Karen".
And you cannot use an album name as source.

Seems like Suzully beaten me to mod this beatmap I guess ;w;

Suzully wrote: 6z6m2x

Title should be "Karen".
And you cannot use an album name as source.

夏恋-karen-　Track by Otokaze. <- 夏恋-karen-
花恋 - Karen - <- 花恋 - Karen
It's both of "Karen" and same as Otokaze's song.
so I only add it to tags.

And you cannot use an album name as source. -> fixed.

To be honest, I just pointed out the wrong stuff
But it's actually nonsense that just saying and going out without modding.

After a discussion,
- Changed the title to correct one.
- Added this album name to tags.
- Resized SB stuff which size is over the limit.

And then, Ranked!

恭喜SP3~

Thanks you Suzully >A<!!

1ed

(o'д')ノ☆ﾟ*｡Congratu★lations!

congratz\:D/

yay

The combo numbers are so hard to read. Please change.

恭喜

Philippines wrote: 4b231s

The combo numbers are so hard to read. Please change.

you can del BG and SB. ok~ so I don't want to change my combo color~

天阿~
ranked了 我都還不知道
阿三醬 恭喜

hanabi好美w (没到5.00 为啥没加进去?!

恭喜了~ Rank圖的速度越來越快了..

AngelHoney wrote: 4q6t5d

hanabi好美w (没到5.00 为啥没加进去?!

因為SB是我做的... 膜姐做的是煙花效果~ 雖然很神 但是我很少能獨立做出一個SB來...所以>_>

grats

Is this map for me wwww

......看到Karen难度我还以为是karen的Guest Diff

Yay congratz sp-sama

啊啦啦恭喜恭喜～～

恭喜>w<

congratz~!

jazzhiphop 最棒了~~謝了,sp3~

this song made me cry

可以求BG大图吗