{"content":"\n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n KRZY<\/a>\n\n \n Former osu! Champion: OWC#3\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 4,848 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed May 2009<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n KRZY<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-03-29T22:18:39+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Voted for option 1, but after reading the thread, more inclined to option 3.Second chances should not have been given in the first place. Some may complain that people who cheated before a certain date got a second chance compared to those who will not if this gets implemented; unlucky them.Looking at osu! currently, there seems to be no way of blocking multis completely. No point in banning ip\/MAC address\/etc. A person who is intent on cheating is going to find new ways to cheat no matter what; good luck to the s on dealing with those.As for why my opinion went from option 1 to option 3, the thread persuaded me that playing for score is only a part of osu!. If a previous cheater decides that what's done is done and decides to lead a new career, then fine. His score submission privileges won't return, but at least he can map\/participate in community projects\/chat\/do whatever else that might please him. Let him use his old instead of creating a new one. Like I said above, those intent on cheating will carry on by any means anyway, so s are going to have to pay attention for those willing to regain their score submission privileges by creating new s, even if not necessarily for cheating. Cheaters do need to be punished after all, and that is in the form of score reset\/prevention of submitting new scores.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n eldnl<\/a>\n\n \n Former osu!catch Champion: 2013\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 2,930 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed March 2010<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n eldnl<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-03-29T23:04:59+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n That was not what I mean but who cares xD<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Ableh<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,924 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed June 2011<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Ableh<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-03-30T01:22:03+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n i choose permanent ban<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Salvage<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 590 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed January 2010<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Salvage<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-03-30T04:21:04+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Practically KRZY said everything i was thinking on the post 3 above this one, i would like to see permanent ban really working fine with no exeptions but since it does not, third one is the most viable one.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Papi Bear<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 143 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed December 2011<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Papi Bear<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-03-30T05:06:06+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Probably they have god like hands to manage a perpect score using all hard mods in an insane song.. So they always say they don't cheat.. XD*I voted for 'reset scores, etc.'... It should be 'reset anything including the er's tag'...<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n LaceWingfield<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 392 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed October 2010<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n LaceWingfield<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-03-30T05:25:20+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n i vote for permabanGame is for fun, not to show off that \"i'm good at this or that\" it would be better with effort, but cheating is just-- NO.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/span>SPOILER<\/a>Terror of Death A.K.A. Haseo<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Vish024<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 2,640 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed December 2010<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Vish024<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-03-30T07:26:51+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n I know the cheating is unacceptable but I still believe permabans are slightly harsh. After all, the results of cheating can be negated and scores can be reset.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Show me a perfect community and I'll show you a pig that can fly.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Espionage724<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 943 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed August 2011<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Espionage724<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-03-30T12:24:51+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n I vote permaban, there is no reason why you should cheat.As for IP banning, not entirely sure how effective this might be. I mean I can get a different IP just by resetting my modem. MAC address banning however is a bit more effective, but I have no idea the lengths needed to do this<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n RoE | Wiki<\/a> - Linux notes, self-hosted<\/a><\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Papi Bear<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 143 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed December 2011<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Papi Bear<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-03-30T13:27:59+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n cheating in osu! (or any other games) is like cheating in class :p<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n ziin<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 2,632 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed January 2010<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n ziin<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-03-30T13:28:22+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Papi Bear ROCKS wrote:<\/h4>cheating in osu! (or any other games) is like cheating in class :p<\/blockquote>god I did that all the time...<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n It's only gay if the sliders touch.My page\/links to my guides<\/a><\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n Sakura<\/a>\n\n \n osu! Alumni\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 7,979 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed March 2010<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Sakura<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-03-30T13:54:41+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n I voted permaban, because well, every other game out there, cheating is a permanent ban so, why the hell would we be more lenient than that.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n 4o414q