{"content":"\n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Wishy<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 2,972 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed September 2010<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Wishy<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-03-29T02:28:36+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Shut up you are an idiot you should be banned ok? :S :S XD XD<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n xsrsbsns<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,935 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed July 2010<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n xsrsbsns<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-03-29T03:45:56+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n eldnl wrote:<\/h4>Ask to the comunity (people who know him) if they are really nice guys and deserve a second chance. But for totally shameless guys must be a permanent BAN.<\/blockquote>\"Really nice guys\" don't cheat.And usually anyone who cheats is already aware of the consequences, but just want to risk in hopes of not getting caught (or asking for second chance if they are eventually found out).That said, I don't particularly care what happens to their s, as long as their hacked plays\/scores are removed from the scoreboard and they don't cheat again. But a permaban sounds better.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n deadbeat<\/a>\n\n \n osu! Alumni\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 9,218 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed June 2009<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n deadbeat<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-03-29T04:10:34+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n i'd say the 3rd option. the risk of banning doesn't seem to be stopping the numbers. neither does giving second chances. the 3rd seems ok though since it lets them play, but removes the need to cheat in the first place<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n Taiko_old\n <\/span>\n \n \n \n \n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Taiko_old<\/span>\n\n \n 2012-03-29T04:52:11+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n HD+FL on taiko with a dual screen makes me weep so much... Yet it's not cheating, I'd rather we fix this thing as well D:<\/span>2nd chance or permaban ftw<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n ampzz\n <\/span>\n \n \n \n \n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n ampzz<\/span>\n\n \n 2012-03-29T05:16:56+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Score reset, disable submission, but leave access is the only logical and viable option to compensate for the sheer lack of effect any IP ban as they are useless for ISPs that don't give out static IP addresses or people by them with a proxy.Second chance could technically come after a grace period of n<\/em> time as an added bonus to those who have decided to be both beneficial to the community (in the form of modding maps or just generally good forum behaviour) and come to with their length of time being forbidden from score submissions which means they have learnt from their previous mistake.If they do it again there is no more chances and their is permanently blacklisted from another opportunity to become a regular again.^ This helps to cover quite a few areas in this option. ^<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n peppy<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 19,323 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n Here since the beginning<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Topic Starter\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n \n peppy<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-03-29T05:35:38+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n To me, being beneficial to the community doesn't make any difference if they are doing harm secretly. Instant negation of any positive in my eyes.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n Deleted_910779\n <\/span>\n \n \n \n \n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Deleted_910779<\/span>\n\n \n 2012-03-29T07:24:55+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n .<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n Last edited by Deleted_910779<\/span> 2013-08-26T13:32:40+00:00<\/time>, edited 1 time in total.\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Vish024<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 2,640 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed December 2010<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Vish024<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-03-29T08:08:34+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Disable submission surely, and it'll send a message to any other potential cheaters in the community.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Show me a perfect community and I'll show you a pig that can fly.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n kriers<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,963 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed April 2010<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n kriers<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-03-29T16:19:54+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n peppy wrote:<\/h4>To me, being beneficial to the community doesn't make any difference if they are doing harm secretly. Instant negation of any positive in my eyes.<\/blockquote><\/span>SPOILER<\/a><\/div><\/div>ontopic: I think the only option is to permanently ban the player. The other two options seem almost rewarding, especially consideringthose players who'd like a score reset in order to improve statistics.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n Waryas\n <\/span>\n \n \n \n \n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Waryas<\/span>\n\n \n 2012-03-29T16:29:38+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Most people have a dynamic ip on multiple 255.255.0.0 range (65535*X ips), so it's useless to ban by IPs.People with static IPs can get a new one by changing their router mac and forcing the dh server of their isp of giving them a new one.Banning MAC? byed in 2s. Banning some sort of hardware GUID? byed in 2s.There is no by-proof way to ban and if someone is smart enough to cheat on osu i think he's smart enough to by a ban.3rd option is the best choice.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n ziin<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 2,632 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed January 2010<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n ziin<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-03-29T17:16:29+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Soly wrote:<\/h4>peppy wrote:<\/h4>To me, being beneficial to the community doesn't make any difference if they are doing harm secretly. Instant negation of any positive in my eyes.<\/blockquote>Exactly, it's like your wife cheating on you.<\/blockquote>then you lock her up in the basement and never let her see another man.The problem is that you can kick out the wife, but she always comes back, and always looks different, and you have to accept her back.Unless you lock her up.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n It's only gay if the sliders touch.My page\/links to my guides<\/a><\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n Sinistro<\/a>\n\n \n osu! Alumni\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,412 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed January 2008<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Sinistro<\/a>\n\n \n 2012-03-29T17:21:24+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n 135q6v