{"content":"\n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Manishh<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 2,093 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed October 2020<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Manishh<\/a>\n\n \n 2024-04-15T15:39:12+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Corne2Plum3 wrote:<\/h4>Manishh wrote:<\/h4>A straightforward solution to resolve the drama is to prohibit Patatitta from discussing the denizen.<\/blockquote>You voted for him, don't you?<\/blockquote>hell na<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n burgernfat<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 21 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed March 2021<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n burgernfat<\/a>\n\n \n 2024-04-15T17:20:58+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n this has probably been said but here is my second takemake denizenship purely subjective. the catch is that it has absolutely zero perks attached to it, that way, denizenship turns to what i described in my first post, just a way to people that were\/are a part of the community. with this, all the problems go away, because to be a \"denizen\" is no longer anything special and people stop caring whether they are denizens or not. from what i understand, you are trying to change the core principles of denizenship itself, to transform it from a subjective to an objective system. i also want to add the fact that by making a clear, objective requirement for becoming denizen, like \"300 posts\" or whatever, it is like encouraging people to make a lot of posts, most of will probably not be of good quality, just to get to the denizen title. having a subjective requirement, such as \"be memorable\" or \"be recognizable\" encourages higher quality and overall makes the board more enjoyable for everyone.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Duck o-o<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,394 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed November 2021<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Duck o-o<\/a>\n\n \n 2024-04-15T17:47:13+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n who caredont let this distract u guys from the fact that this guy is literally a potatois like if i let my pet rock become president<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n keremaru<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 227 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed November 2017<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n keremaru<\/a>\n\n \n 2024-04-15T21:26:49+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Blushing wrote:<\/h4>ahhhh its time for meeeeeeeeeee.patatitta, being leader and making decisions that not only reflect you, but impact an entire ecosystem means that your choices and decisions will not be liked and some people will vehemently hate you.---- To rework the system means you will be Sisyphus. Though you want this thing fleshed out and changed, somehow, someway so go against the grain and propose what YOU want to do. Whether people like it or not.<\/div><\/blockquote>My main gripe with this post is this. Everything else was pretty sound advice, including the council to elect denizens and the honorary forefathers comments. But the main reason why this thread is such a hotspot for post activity is because<\/em> people don't like what Patatitta wants to do with denizenship. People will<\/em> give backlash, and there will<\/em> be vocal reception simply because OT is a forum. If Patatitta followed this \"Whether you like it or not\" mentality, a lot of people would probably suggest that the OT!Gov be abolished, and this subforum return to the days before OT!Gov. And though it doesn't relate to the main point in any capacity, comparing him with Sisyphus doesn't work in Patatitta's favor here, either; since it can be assumed that Sisyphus is pushing a boulder up an exponentially growing mountain, given he can never climb it. If Patatitta wanted to enforce his ideals, he'd essentially be cutting under the mountain and pushing his boulder that way, thus undermining the struggles of being an active President, thus highlighting a legacy of ignoring the community and endorsing an autonomous authority. And nobody who has been in OT long enough to know even a little bit about how this place works would want that.<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/center>burgernfat wrote:<\/h4>make denizenship purely subjective. the catch is that it has absolutely zero perks attached to it, that way, denizenship turns to what i described in my first post, just a way to people that were\/are a part of the community.<\/blockquote>That's kinda what it was already. From my POV, people who get denizen are just new of the cool kids club.<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/center><\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/a>i'm really fucking lazy<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/center><\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n Corne2Plum3<\/a>\n\n \n Global \n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,851 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed November 2019<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Corne2Plum3<\/a>\n\n \n 2024-04-15T21:45:30+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n tbh just a number of post only isn't a good idea, as post farming would grant you denizen. It should be another ingredient, such as post quality or how their threads are.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n Last edited by Corne2Plum3<\/a> 2024-04-15T21:46:04+00:00<\/time>, edited 1 time in total.\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/strong> <\/a><\/a><\/a><\/a><\/a><\/a><\/center><\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n Blushing<\/a>\n\n \n Technical Team\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 3,234 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed February 2015<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Blushing<\/a>\n\n \n 2024-04-15T22:04:37+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n removing objective milestones for denizenship allows for it to truly be the \"honorary\" and prestigious title that everyone<\/em> wants, or seems to desire. keremaru wrote:<\/h4>stuff in pink<\/blockquote>Sisyphus finds meaning and life in what he does. Sometimes the struggle is better than the reward. Seeing something come to fruition that you have fought tooth and nail for is arguably what a politician should do, whether you like their ideals or not. If OT!Gov is abolished... nothign changes. It would be as if it was last year or the year before. This is the only government that has proposed meaningful change and has been useful to some degree, whether you like the changes or not. Im sorry that you dont like what patatitta is going to do or is trying to do to denizenship. You lot are so attached to a honorary title in a rhythm clicking game for a forum that is mostly shit post and shenanigans. People being gatekept from participating in certain events or activities because they dont have it is insane, to name a few: Corne's Collab, OT elections, Pretty much any Manishh event. It has become less about \"hey this dude is historic!\" and more like spongebob trying to get into the salty spitoon, its humorous.<\/strong>There are actual things that can be done, like reducing the objective criteria so people can't complain about how they meet a criteria and it is strictly based on overall feeling. Post quality, amount, and frequency can be helpful factors yes, but to meet a criteria of like 300 posts in 8 months is stupid because I can just spam the front page with remotely relevant posts and be fine and then get denizen based on that, it just isnt a good metric. A good metric would be to genuinely ask the council \"What do you from blushing without needing to look at their OT history?\" If they sayu negative things or \"not much\" then its pretty clear I was not historic, ya know?create a separate entity of the government that doesnt report to them but sends them their list of people for denizen then the president, and only the president, signs off on them: yes or no. patatitta, if people genuinely hate you for a title that holds too many meanings behind it being taken away from them, then they need to touch grass and that it really doesnt matter this much and it isnt that deep. Its not as if denizen allows them any privilege outside roleplaying in certain threads.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Polyspora<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 479 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed September 2019<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Polyspora<\/a>\n\n \n 2024-04-15T22:44:11+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Uh @abraker we should probably make a constitution<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n - Marco -<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 7,608 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed December 2011<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n - Marco -<\/a>\n\n \n 2024-04-16T00:15:28+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Blushing wrote:<\/h4>removing objective milestones for denizenship allows for it to truly be the \"honorary\" and prestigious title that everyone<\/em> wants, or seems to desire. keremaru wrote:<\/h4>stuff in pink<\/blockquote>Sisyphus finds meaning and life in what he does. Sometimes the struggle is better than the reward. Seeing something come to fruition that you have fought tooth and nail for is arguably what a politician should do, whether you like their ideals or not. If OT!Gov is abolished... nothign changes. It would be as if it was last year or the year before. This is the only government that has proposed meaningful change and has been useful to some degree, whether you like the changes or not. Im sorry that you dont like what patatitta is going to do or is trying to do to denizenship. You lot are so attached to a honorary title in a rhythm clicking game for a forum that is mostly shit post and shenanigans. People being gatekept from participating in certain events or activities because they dont have it is insane, to name a few: Corne's Collab, OT elections, Pretty much any Manishh event. It has become less about \"hey this dude is historic!\" and more like spongebob trying to get into the salty spitoon, its humorous.<\/strong>There are actual things that can be done, like reducing the objective criteria so people can't complain about how they meet a criteria and it is strictly based on overall feeling. Post quality, amount, and frequency can be helpful factors yes, but to meet a criteria of like 300 posts in 8 months is stupid because I can just spam the front page with remotely relevant posts and be fine and then get denizen based on that, it just isnt a good metric. A good metric would be to genuinely ask the council \"What do you from blushing without needing to look at their OT history?\" If they sayu negative things or \"not much\" then its pretty clear I was not historic, ya know?create a separate entity of the government that doesnt report to them but sends them their list of people for denizen then the president, and only the president, signs off on them: yes or no. patatitta, if people genuinely hate you for a title that holds too many meanings behind it being taken away from them, then they need to touch grass and that it really doesnt matter this much and it isnt that deep. Its not as if denizen allows them any privilege outside roleplaying in certain threads.<\/blockquote>OF COURSE I'M ATTACHED TO A RHYTHM GAME FORUM, HERE PPL ACCEPT I HAVE AN OBSESSION WITH THE TRUE OWNER IF THE WORLD<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n make osu! more awesome!<\/a> | \u2665\ufe0f<\/span><\/span><\/a> | Need Help?<\/a> | Lazer > Stable<\/a><\/center><\/div><\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n 5d6p2q