{"content":"\n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Manishh<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 2,093 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed October 2020<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Manishh<\/a>\n\n \n 2024-04-15T14:45:02+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n A straightforward solution to resolve the drama is to prohibit Patatitta from discussing the denizen.<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Ymir<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,864 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed June 2020<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Ymir<\/a>\n\n \n 2024-04-15T14:51:16+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Manishh wrote:<\/h4>A straightforward solution to resolve the drama is to prohibit Patatitta from discussing the denizen.<\/blockquote><\/strong><\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n This way to the GULAG<\/a> <\/strong><\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Patatitta<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,332 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed February 2020<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Topic Starter\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Patatitta<\/a>\n\n \n 2024-04-15T14:55:05+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Ymir wrote:<\/h4>Manishh wrote:<\/h4>A straightforward solution to resolve the drama is to prohibit Patatitta from discussing the denizen.<\/blockquote><\/strong><\/blockquote><\/strong><\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/a> <\/a> <\/a>Discord de CTB Espa\u00f1a<\/a><\/em> | OT!eras<\/a><\/em> | Patatitta's analysis corner<\/a><\/em><\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Scyla<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 69 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed February 2022<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Scyla<\/a>\n\n \n 2024-04-15T14:59:20+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Patatitta wrote:<\/h4>Scyla wrote:<\/h4>Remove it from existence<\/blockquote>I would like to but people won't let mesametdze wrote:<\/h4>Patatitta wrote:<\/h4>sametdze wrote:<\/h4>i will try to fix those questions1. in order to qualify<\/strong> for a denizenship, you must have 8 months of straight activity within OT. every month, new person gets denizen2. denizenship needs an actual definition. i cant think of one rn, but im sure you guys could because you're an actual team and im just one guy. what you could also do is make multiple definitions and have a vote on which is the definitive definition, which would fix the problem of nobody agreeing on what denizenship is3. i do not understand this. do you mean that there's not the same amount of denizens in each gen? do you mean that people from older times being mixed in with people from current times?4. see the second sentence of number one5. dont understand, do you mean people jumping from generation to generation (like samx500 jumping from gen 7 to gen 6), if thats the case, dont allow that to happen unless a person truly deserves to jump to an older generation6. people have sort of put this idea of denizen being very important, so maybe clear that up? also the whole system's inconsistency can also contribute to the problem. also, the people who choose denizens should really think twice before adding a denizen, because simply adding a person without any actual thought will contribute to the inconsistency issue (cough cough blushing issue cough cough)good luck fixing the system i guess<\/blockquote>1- So if a lot of people ed OT at the same time, we would have to choose to delay the denizen annoucement of some people because there is a denizen cap per month?, that doesn't seem like a good idea, less when you consider ot may grow in the futuer2- I mean yeah that's what we're discussing but we cant find a solution3- read the full thread for more info, but TLDR is that the requirements for denizen have changed over the ages and older denizens have not been adapted to it, so a gen 3 denizen may not acutally qualify in gen 10, which leads to a lot of problems 4- fair5- no, I mean the switch from gen 9 to gen 10 and stuff like that6- I mean, even if I try hard to make denizen less prestigious, due to all of the oldfags who will return over time and abraker restless campaign to make denizen a really cool thing, it wouldn't be much of a help tbh<\/blockquote>1. ok then, maybe just change how often denizenshit is rewarded, a week would be far too short and a month would be far too long. maybe new denizen every 15 days?2. work hard mf3. you can't really do much about this. time has changed the denizen system, so unless you wanna remove the older denizens and continue with the new selection process or remove the new denizens and go back to the old selection process, (which would cause alot of drama and confusion one way or the other) there's not much possible to fix this. 4. how tf do i argue with \"fair\"5. you guys should decide how long a generation lasts for6. oldfags come and go from what ive seen, i wouldnt worry too much. as for abraker you'll just have to ignore him i guess<\/blockquote>1- as kobold said, no point in timegate denizen announcements2- that's what i'm doing3- point is that if how denizen used to work was different on the past than it was now, and our definition of denizen has changed over time, with the past not beind adjusted or even clarifying it has been adjusted, people would believe that the old denizens have been chosen under the current rule, and even if we clarified it has been changed, under the modern definition of denizen, they wouldn't be denizens which would make the entire history preservation perspective of the thread be totally useless outside the last couple generations4- you don't, i'm agreeing with you5- and we cant really agree on anything and that is why i'm making thos thread6- idk it's hard and people would hate me if I tried to remove prestige from denizen<\/blockquote>What? Patatita? Scared from hate? This isn't patatita, who are you. Where is our patatita<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n B0ii<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 594 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed November 2021<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n B0ii<\/a>\n\n \n 2024-04-15T15:01:01+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Scyla wrote:<\/h4>Patatitta wrote:<\/h4>Scyla wrote:<\/h4>Remove it from existence<\/blockquote>I would like to but people won't let mesametdze wrote:<\/h4>Patatitta wrote:<\/h4>sametdze wrote:<\/h4>i will try to fix those questions1. in order to qualify<\/strong> for a denizenship, you must have 8 months of straight activity within OT. every month, new person gets denizen2. denizenship needs an actual definition. i cant think of one rn, but im sure you guys could because you're an actual team and im just one guy. what you could also do is make multiple definitions and have a vote on which is the definitive definition, which would fix the problem of nobody agreeing on what denizenship is3. i do not understand this. do you mean that there's not the same amount of denizens in each gen? do you mean that people from older times being mixed in with people from current times?4. see the second sentence of number one5. dont understand, do you mean people jumping from generation to generation (like samx500 jumping from gen 7 to gen 6), if thats the case, dont allow that to happen unless a person truly deserves to jump to an older generation6. people have sort of put this idea of denizen being very important, so maybe clear that up? also the whole system's inconsistency can also contribute to the problem. also, the people who choose denizens should really think twice before adding a denizen, because simply adding a person without any actual thought will contribute to the inconsistency issue (cough cough blushing issue cough cough)good luck fixing the system i guess<\/blockquote>1- So if a lot of people ed OT at the same time, we would have to choose to delay the denizen annoucement of some people because there is a denizen cap per month?, that doesn't seem like a good idea, less when you consider ot may grow in the futuer2- I mean yeah that's what we're discussing but we cant find a solution3- read the full thread for more info, but TLDR is that the requirements for denizen have changed over the ages and older denizens have not been adapted to it, so a gen 3 denizen may not acutally qualify in gen 10, which leads to a lot of problems 4- fair5- no, I mean the switch from gen 9 to gen 10 and stuff like that6- I mean, even if I try hard to make denizen less prestigious, due to all of the oldfags who will return over time and abraker restless campaign to make denizen a really cool thing, it wouldn't be much of a help tbh<\/blockquote>1. ok then, maybe just change how often denizenshit is rewarded, a week would be far too short and a month would be far too long. maybe new denizen every 15 days?2. work hard mf3. you can't really do much about this. time has changed the denizen system, so unless you wanna remove the older denizens and continue with the new selection process or remove the new denizens and go back to the old selection process, (which would cause alot of drama and confusion one way or the other) there's not much possible to fix this. 4. how tf do i argue with \"fair\"5. you guys should decide how long a generation lasts for6. oldfags come and go from what ive seen, i wouldnt worry too much. as for abraker you'll just have to ignore him i guess<\/blockquote>1- as kobold said, no point in timegate denizen announcements2- that's what i'm doing3- point is that if how denizen used to work was different on the past than it was now, and our definition of denizen has changed over time, with the past not beind adjusted or even clarifying it has been adjusted, people would believe that the old denizens have been chosen under the current rule, and even if we clarified it has been changed, under the modern definition of denizen, they wouldn't be denizens which would make the entire history preservation perspective of the thread be totally useless outside the last couple generations4- you don't, i'm agreeing with you5- and we cant really agree on anything and that is why i'm making thos thread6- idk it's hard and people would hate me if I tried to remove prestige from denizen<\/blockquote>What? Patatita? Scared from hate? This isn't patatita, who are you. Where is our patatita<\/blockquote>petition for the potato man to start a mass-gencide on ot<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n A Member of the Grass Party<\/a><\/code><\/span>I love emoticons :\u200eD<\/code><\/span>:\/<\/code><\/span><\/h2>I make music(SoundCloud)<\/a>, (NG)<\/a><\/em><\/span><\/center><\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Patatitta<\/a>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 1,332 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed February 2020<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Topic Starter\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n \n Patatitta<\/a>\n\n \n 2024-04-15T15:02:42+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n Scyla wrote:<\/h4><\/span><\/a>Patatitta wrote:<\/h4>Scyla wrote:<\/h4>Remove it from existence<\/blockquote>I would like to but people won't let mesametdze wrote:<\/h4>Patatitta wrote:<\/h4>sametdze wrote:<\/h4>i will try to fix those questions1. in order to qualify<\/strong> for a denizenship, you must have 8 months of straight activity within OT. every month, new person gets denizen2. denizenship needs an actual definition. i cant think of one rn, but im sure you guys could because you're an actual team and im just one guy. what you could also do is make multiple definitions and have a vote on which is the definitive definition, which would fix the problem of nobody agreeing on what denizenship is3. i do not understand this. do you mean that there's not the same amount of denizens in each gen? do you mean that people from older times being mixed in with people from current times?4. see the second sentence of number one5. dont understand, do you mean people jumping from generation to generation (like samx500 jumping from gen 7 to gen 6), if thats the case, dont allow that to happen unless a person truly deserves to jump to an older generation6. people have sort of put this idea of denizen being very important, so maybe clear that up? also the whole system's inconsistency can also contribute to the problem. also, the people who choose denizens should really think twice before adding a denizen, because simply adding a person without any actual thought will contribute to the inconsistency issue (cough cough blushing issue cough cough)good luck fixing the system i guess<\/blockquote>1- So if a lot of people ed OT at the same time, we would have to choose to delay the denizen annoucement of some people because there is a denizen cap per month?, that doesn't seem like a good idea, less when you consider ot may grow in the futuer2- I mean yeah that's what we're discussing but we cant find a solution3- read the full thread for more info, but TLDR is that the requirements for denizen have changed over the ages and older denizens have not been adapted to it, so a gen 3 denizen may not acutally qualify in gen 10, which leads to a lot of problems 4- fair5- no, I mean the switch from gen 9 to gen 10 and stuff like that6- I mean, even if I try hard to make denizen less prestigious, due to all of the oldfags who will return over time and abraker restless campaign to make denizen a really cool thing, it wouldn't be much of a help tbh<\/blockquote>1. ok then, maybe just change how often denizenshit is rewarded, a week would be far too short and a month would be far too long. maybe new denizen every 15 days?2. work hard mf3. you can't really do much about this. time has changed the denizen system, so unless you wanna remove the older denizens and continue with the new selection process or remove the new denizens and go back to the old selection process, (which would cause alot of drama and confusion one way or the other) there's not much possible to fix this. 4. how tf do i argue with \"fair\"5. you guys should decide how long a generation lasts for6. oldfags come and go from what ive seen, i wouldnt worry too much. as for abraker you'll just have to ignore him i guess<\/blockquote>1- as kobold said, no point in timegate denizen announcements2- that's what i'm doing3- point is that if how denizen used to work was different on the past than it was now, and our definition of denizen has changed over time, with the past not beind adjusted or even clarifying it has been adjusted, people would believe that the old denizens have been chosen under the current rule, and even if we clarified it has been changed, under the modern definition of denizen, they wouldn't be denizens which would make the entire history preservation perspective of the thread be totally useless outside the last couple generations4- you don't, i'm agreeing with you5- and we cant really agree on anything and that is why i'm making thos thread6- idk it's hard and people would hate me if I tried to remove prestige from denizen<\/blockquote><\/div><\/div>What? Patatita? Scared from hate? This isn't patatita, who are you. Where is our patatita<\/blockquote>nah don't worry i've got a solution and i'm going to push for it hard nowkinda a mix of what samedtze and reyalp saidgens as they currently stand are no more, instead, each gens correspond to a different ruling of denizen, so all the denizens that got added while the requirement was 3 months would all fall under the same gen, all the ones that required contribution would fall under the same gen, etc. We will start a new gen that just requires of 8 months and 500 posts and nothing morethat would:While not consistent over time, we represent ot history better by showing how the definition for denizen has changed over timeWe abolish lore or just subjectivity being the sole reason for like half the generation switchesNo gatekeeping or favoritism happening in denizen selectionIt's a good system on the long runEveryone gets what denizen is as it would be explained on each gens descriptionno subjectivity = no drama<\/div>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n Last edited by Patatitta<\/a> 2024-04-15T15:02:56+00:00<\/time>, edited 1 time in total.\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/a> <\/a> <\/a>Discord de CTB Espa\u00f1a<\/a><\/em> | OT!eras<\/a><\/em> | Patatitta's analysis corner<\/a><\/em><\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/div>\n \n Blushing<\/a>\n\n \n Technical Team\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/a>\n\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n <\/span>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n \n \n \n 3,234 posts\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n\n \n ed February 2015<\/strong>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n Blushing<\/a>\n\n \n 2024-04-15T15:14:41+00:00<\/time>\n <\/a>\n <\/div>\n <\/div>\n\n <\/div>\n\n \n \n 3x418